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1
I know she's been around for a while, but it seems like I've been hearing a lot about her lately. Is she doing some kind of PR Crazy blitz?
2
Excuse me, I broke MY wrist when I was eleven. I doubt my mother gave two shits about who or what my doctors and nurses did in the privacy of their own homes.
3
A child infected with impure ideas should be dead to you, anyway, so what would be the point of emergency treatment? Making an exception for when your child needs emergency treatment is just like making an abortion exception for rape and incest. I fully expect all the Republican candidates at the next debate to denounce Harvey's lack of moral certitude.
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But @ 2, they FLAUNT IT IN YOUR FACE. Don't you get it?

I expect more and more of this as true LGBT equality comes closer to reality.
5
Can you imagine somebody saying if an Asian or African American works at the hospital, they don't want them treating their child? Any parent that listens to medical advice from religious fanatics shouldn't even be a parent. I'm reminded of the Oregon couple that were recently found guilty in the death of their child because they used prayer instead of medicine on a child with an easily cured illness.
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@5 - You'll never convince them that sexuality is congenital. But, to play along with the choicers for a moment, if someone refused to allow a Jewish or Christian nurse touch their child, that'd be something.

But so help me god, no damned left-handed person will lay a backwards hand on my child!
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@5 No no, you see, being gay is a CHOICE; being ethnic is simply a birth defect. Those Negroes and Orientals can't help being what they are --- that's why we should feel sorry for them, and admire their persistence in the face of adversity, instead of vilifying them. They're doing the best they can with the cards they've been dealt.

(However, if a black doctor sets your daughter's broken leg and she grows up to have a thing for black men... well, you have only yourself to blame.)
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Well, she probably figures that if the child needed emergency treatment, it might already be unconscious ... and therefore wouldn't notice that One. Of. Those. People was treating the wee one.

Seriously, her obsessive fetish about denying productive members of society the respect to which they are entitled is disgusting. But I guess it's what she's reduced to spouting, if THEY can't be fired due to orientation.

God, Froot Loops makes more sense than she does!
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5

yeah.

we thought about that too.

Cause the two cases are EXACTLY the same.
10
"the kind of wishy-washy moral relativism that is destroying the moral fabric of this great nation...."

yeah.
Danny you have stumbled onto something there.
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I have a chronically ill child, and all I care is that they know what they are doing and they have compassion. If your priority is the sexual orientation or gender identification of who those who care for your child instead of being about the actual care your child is receiving, then you're a lousy parent.

This woman saddens me, but I thank her for the work she does for equality and justice. Her attitude just fuels the change. They have lost. When your religious polls show that 67% of religious Millennials support equality then the tide has turned. Heck, the president of Focus on the Family even
admits this. But, yay, she found a way to milk fifteen more minutes of "fame".
12
Can't wait for one of these letters to actually be filed. The hospical will simply decline to admit the patient. Who will then claim discrimination.
13
Someone needs to create a nice little symbol that the bigots can wear -- some kind of anti-rainbow non-pink-triangle thing -- so the rest of us can start demanding that we not receive treatment from them, less the bigotry rub off.
14
Why, yes, Mrs. Harvey: let us discuss the kind of people I would not want to treat my children. We will start with narrow minded religious bigots who see no problem in brainwashing vulnerable minds to share their delusional hatreds, and work out from there.
15
"they’re involvement with your child...."

Was Ms. Harvey home skoold?
16
" who has rainbow identifiers on her work clothing"

Last I checked, nurses were only allowed to wear name tags.
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@5 It only matters if they are openly Asian.
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I suggest also making a request to the hospital cafeteria to have uncontaminated silverware. Do you want your children to eat with the same spoon as somebody who has smoked a pole?

I am sure these requests will be taken about as seriously as a guy requesting "no fat chicks."
19
Crap! Another recruiting opportunity foiled again! How else can we fill our ranks, if not to recruit children? WE CANNOT REPRODUCE, thus we must recruit!
20
I remember distinctly, when I broke my arm when I was five, the first thing the nurse told me what "where does it hurt". The second thing, of course, was "I'm a lesbian, and you should totally become one too."
That's when I became a lesbian. At least, until 11 years later, when I fell off my bike and went to the hospital again. My nurse then was straight, so I became straight again.
It really is that simple, people!
21
Do they ever think of anything else besides teh gay? No wonder they're afraid their kids will start thinking of nothing else, as well...
22
Plenty of eleven year olds have suffered at the hands of heterosexuals. I can't believe the idiocy of some people.

23
Oh, wait, does this mean I should raise a stink about the well-meaning nurse who gave crosses to my family when my aunt was dying in the hospital? As I'm an atheist, she was "tacking on" an extra identity to her workplace persona that was fairly offensive to me. I didn't need to be evangelized while trying to focus on my auntie in her last days. Perhaps I should have demanded that she remove the offensive crosses she was wearing. Cuts both ways, Linda dear.
24
Ever more evidence that these people are losing any and all grip on society as the years roll by. Just like on abortion; they're literally running out of viable ideas and each new one is rapidly approaching the level of a Wily E. Coyote level of desperation scheme to kill the gay and/or progressive Road Runner. Meep meep, assholes.
25
Maybe the bigots should wear a black/gray/white rainbow. This would signify that no color is allowed into their miserable little lives.
26
Gus, there are bigot decals one can get: one occasionally sees jacked- up pickup trucks around here with a copy of the long, narrow rainbow decal, except it reads 'Hetero' in tiny letters, and instead of a rainbow the band alternates black and white rectangles.
And there are black-and-white versions of the american flag, too.
The sad message of these seems to be "I see the world in black and white only, my world has no shades of grey."
Oh, and any jacked-up truck with one of these bigot stickers also always has a cross decal, a jesus-fish, and a 'heretic' decal.
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What if she said something like this?

Do you think these folks provide good role modeling at a time when your child is very vulnerable? [Let’s] say your eleven year-old has broken her leg rather badly and needs to be in the hospital a few days, which would you prefer: a nurse who’s proud of her Judaism, who has Star of David identifiers on her work clothing, (or a Yamaka for a male) or a nurse who does not?

I would like to suggest that parents think long and hard about this. If you want your children to admire people who proclaim a Jewish lifestyle, they’re involvement with your child during a hospital stay is sure to be an influence. And let me be clear that folks involved in these behaviors can be certainly competent workers but they are tacking on to their workplace identity one that is highly offensive to many people and can be erroneously influential to children who won’t, or shouldn’t, see the whole picture of how this behavior really manifests itself.
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@23 FTW. I refuse to let my kid be cared for by someone wearing a cross. It's offensive, really, to flaunt that part of your identity. If you choose to be Christian, there is nothing I can do about it, but I don't want you wiping your jesus all over my kid at her most vulnerable. It's inappropriate, really.

And @5, I used to work in a nursing home, and it was very common for the residents to have "No Ethnic" written into their care plan. But then, these were 90 year olds with severe dementia who would flip out if a black/asian/excessively tan white person tried to wipe their ass. Just a fun fact.
29
Ms Harvey's obsession with lesbians is starting to look pretty dyke-y...
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@25 - Gray is the color of moral relativists. The Christians' rainbows are black and white and not at all bent... like prison stripes.
31
Seriously? Does this douche stay up at night thinking up new ways to teach people ways to pass along descrimination and hate to our kids? STOP THE HATE!
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@27 I was gonna do the same thing - only replacing it with "bigoted religious zealots."
33
This would never fly at my hospital.
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@31

Yes, unfortunately The Savage does.

And I agree, he should stop the hate.
35
My state representative is also a nurse in the cancer unit at our local hospital. She voted in favor of the anti-gay marriage amendment 3 times. (she claims to be a democrat... hah!) If I was in the hospital, I'd be very uncomfortable having her deal with me or my partner. But it never occurred to me to refuse to let her treat us.
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@6-as a future left-handed doctor, I'm going to make sure I wear all sorts of southpaw insignias to indoctrinate all the children I come across. HA!
37
I care about medical personnel's competency, compassion, and professionalism in dealing with my two-year-old son. I can't imagine caring about a doctor or nurse's sexual orientation just as I can't imagine caring about something like his or her skin colour, religion, gender identity, ethnicity, etc..

During the first year of my son's life, I'd often talk to a nurse friend of mine about questions and concerns I had about my son. This nurse has spent most of his career working in an NICU. He's a caring, compassionate, and knowledgable nurse who gave me excellent, helpful advice. He's also gay. My husband/son's dad is bi. I'm straight. We have other gay, lesbian, and bi friends. My son's sexual orientation is based on who he is, not who any of us are. The Linda Harveys of the world are so irritating, bigoted, and wrong!
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@35 Shitty Democrats still count towards holding the majority, even if they'll screw you on important votes. This is still valuable, as long as they are not a lot less liberal leaning than the district they represent.
39
Is the lesbian nurse going to be kissing her girlfriend in front of a patient? Obviously not - when a good professional goes to work, whether gay or straight, they leave their sexuality at home. It shouldn't have any influence on patient care, and a rainbow flag is just a symbol that most kids won't understand. This woman is afraid of bigot's stereotypes, not real people.
40
I also note that the pedophilia libel, while not explicitly stated, is right under the surface of this bigoted missive.
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@5: Absolutely. That's what I said when I (along with about 50 other SLOGgers, I suspect) sent this one in.
42
In 1959, when my mom was pregnant with me, there were 2 OBGYNs stationed on George AFB; one black, one white. On the morning of my Mom's first appointment, the white nurse came out to the waiting room and in a confidential tone told her that she'd been assigned to a "negro" doctor and could be reassigned to a white one if she wanted without any problem. She didn't, and instead she gave me a cool civil-rights era birth story. Moral arc/history/ bends/justice, etc.
43
Perhaps Ms. Harvey should decline all future medical care for herself...as well as food & beverage. Folks like her are less harmful to the general population once they've achieved room temperature for an extended period of time.
44
This brings David Sedaris and the "chocolate Santa" episode to mind. I would imagine there are some good hospitals where te charge nurses would be gleefully assigning the most out staff they could find.
45
Whistling show tunes?? Does she honestly believe pediatricians have that kind of time on their hands?
46
@34 Get tested for reading comprehension. And do something about your own hate before you go criticizing others. I would also ask you not to lie about other people, but you seem so firmly committed to making false accusations that it's pointless to suggest that you stop. Besides it's kind of fun watching you be as stupid, petty, and bigoted as you claim others are.
47
Won't it be nice when people who think like this will at least be ashamed enough of it to keep their mouths shut?

Good Christians: it really is time to start disowning bigots.
48
Because, you know, the only reason a nurse or tech at in a children's hospital/ward might wear scrubs with RAINBOWS on them is to tell people they are GAY. WTF?

This woman is so stupid I am surprised she manages to feed herself. She clearly has no idea how a hospital or other medical facility operates. They can't accommodate crap like this. They have no time and not enough personnel to deal with the bullshit. If a gay nurse is covering the floor your kid is on, what are they going to do, have a nurse from another floor abandon his/her floor to run to your kid when she needs attention? Is there supposed to be a chinese fire drill every time something needs to be done to your kid to accommodate your paranoid bigotry? Get a grip and STFU. Where I live this request legally could not be honored, but I can't imagine any hospital (except one which already discriminates in hiring LGBT personnel) agreeing to honor such a directive.
49
This nut case is obsessed with homosexuality. It's a lot more dangerous for her children to be around her, if you ask me.
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When I need medical attention in hospital (or when my family does), I care that the Health Care Professionals are well trained, well mannered and skilled. I don't, nor should anyone else, care what they do in their personal life. It's a medical center, not match-dot-com.
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I expect more and more of this as true LGBT equality comes closer to reality.

Bingo. These folks will only get more and more and more shrill and extreme. I anticipate an uptick in hate crimes too.

@27 - I believe you mean yarmulke? Sorry to be a spelling nazi...nice substitution. Sadly, these types pine for the days of exactly that kind of discrimination.
52
I'm not sure what I'd do if I were an emergency room doctor and Maggie Gallagher or Pat Robertson or Antonin Scalia or any of their ilk came in needing life-or-death medical care. I guess it's good for the courts that I'm not a doctor and I'll never find out ...
53
Every time I spend inordinate amounts of time trying to figure out if someone is homosexual, they're always rubbing my nose in it.
54
"Come to the LGBT side. We have brunch."
55
@ 46, I know you like taking on SB (it's a dirty job, so we're glad you're doing it), but he was clearly trying to be clever.
56
@5

Let's not kid ourselves: there was a point in country's history when it was "normal" for whites to refuse to be seen by black nurses or doctors (those who could afford to go to school for it, that is). That was the segregated South. Whites and blacks couldn't use the same toilets, drinking fountains, schools...

Yes, that time passed (no pun intended) with a fight, so will this.
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@55 I get that he was trying to be clever and as usual failed spectacularly. It's his old trick of "I can't defend [insert name of bigot/homophobe/idiot] so I'll throw out a dishonest attack against Dan instead". I decided not to play along. And if you look at some of the other things he's written he really does have a problem with reading comprehension.
58
Oh my god. As a lesbian nurse at a pediatric hospital, I am TOTALLY buying a rainbow pin to put on my ID tag.

Last week, a major hospital in my city started an official rainbow sticker / ID badge program to make sure GLBT patients and families were feeling respected and validated. Even the straight allies wear them. I would *love* to have this wingnut have to get admitted to this hospital - her head would implode from all the gay.
59
This shit just makes me angry. I didn't know that was possible anymore...

Fucking bigots. Why can't they all drink the kool-aid and kill themselves already!
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@17: Or if they are promoting the Asian lifestyle.
61
Does anyone really listen to this bigoted, hate-filled woman? I'm seeing alot of hateful articles from these Right-Wing Christian Taliban Wingnuts! Seems they would have us back in the closet with locks on the door. We need to hit back and hit back hard. Otherwise, we have a much longer road to Equality ahead of us. It's easy to say 'turn the other cheek' but if we do, we will have a heavy price to pay. Expose all their dirty tricks and lies. Strike back by sifting through their closet and exposing ALL their skeletons. I, for one, am sick and tired of their bigotry. We deserve Equality NOW!
62
So...If THE most qualified surgeon for whatever surgery your child need just happens to be gay, you would rather a less qualified person care for them? That seems downright irresponsible. Like those parents who forbid their deathly ill child from receiving care because receiving care would be somehow thwarting "god's Will"
63
To be fair, she's right. A sick kid may very well look up to an admire a capable gay care giver and therefore not grow up to be a homophobe.

Where she's looney-tunes is in thinking that is a bad thing.
64
I was once in a situation where I should have written a note to the hospital that I didn't want my daughter exposed to religious wingnuts. A few days after the Columbine shooting I had to take my youngest to Denver Children's Hospital for some tests. My older daughter, who was six at the time was with me too. While I stayed with the baby to comfort her during the tests, my six-year-old stayed with a nurse in another room. On my way home I found out the nurse had talked to her the whole time about Columbine and how the killers were in Hell now and what was happening to them. Scared the shit out of her. And SO INAPPROPRIATE. So yes, this is stupid. I think medical PROFESSIONALS need to avoid all controversial/religious/political discussion with children, ESPECIALLY when the kids' parents aren't around.
65
Yep, that is indeed the kind of thing that people in the future will look at with amazement ('how could they be so mean to other people?'). Just as the attitudes feelings of pre-Civil-Rights-movement Southern racists are now difficult to understand ('would they feel really so bad if that black guy sat at a table in their restaurant, or drank from their fountain, or sat at the front of the bus?').

Which means that a good reason to keep this woman's letter on file is historical documentation. When the first scholarly account of homophobia in the late 20th / early 21st century is written, this is the kind of materials the author(s) will need.
66
Well, this makes perfect sense if you really do believe that homosexuality is a (breathtakingly ill-advised unless you enjoy fear) choice. And that it's wrong and bad and that Jesus loses his boner when the wrong people touch each other.

My suggestion is that you worry more about keeping your children away from clergy.
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@65 You are absolutely right!
68
@ 57, I disagree. A response like yours is exactly what playing along is to him. He says something silly and generates an angry response from someone. It's the name of the troll game.

He doesn't have reading comprehension problems, he has a reality comprehension problem.
69
Obviously this brilliant person is clueless about the critical nursing shortage in this country. Hospitals would hire homosexual demons with horns and tails if they came with an R.N. license and were willing to work hospital surge. Yeah, good luck with that one, Cunterella de Ville.
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@56 That was my point. Thanks for saying it better than I did.
71
@5 I can. I worked in a health care clinic years ago, with one caucasian doctor and one african-american doctor. A patient came in one time and freaked out that she was going to be treated by the AA doctor. The other doctor was not in that day - I can't remember how it was resolved but it was a big honkin WTF moment for me.
72
@28. hahaha, excessively tan...
73
Arguing that gay citizens are due equal treatment under the law is pretty hard to dispute. I personally wouldn't want to take that tack anyway, or see how it could be defensible under the Constitution or basic morality or ethical treatment of others.

Come to that, I can't see how hating someone based on their poor personal sexual choices is Christian as I understand the term. Nor can I understand how those choices are my business from that same perspective.

Picking the internet apart each and every day to see a) how bad those evil Christians are and b) how horribly MEAN people are for your lifestyle choice of homosexuality is just as tricky as trying to defend people like this woman though. It's silly, childish, petty. It's the behavior of a perpetual adolescent. In others words, Ladies and Gentlemen, meet Dan Savage.

I could care less if Savage, my neighbor, my attorney or my health care provider are gay. Just isn't on my radar of things that merit my time and attention. However, I feel a deep repugnance for those that having chosen a lifestyle dislike the social consequences of that choice and whine about those consequences incessantly.

For people like Savage the gay anthem would run to words to the effect if 'It isn't FAAAIIIRRR!!!!!!' From my 5 year old this is irritating but understandable. From a nearly 50 year old man it's simply contemptible.
74
every minute you spend on slog, SB, is a minute taken away from your family. so fuck off home.
75
So what if the gay/lesbian doctor has a better success rate than the straight? What if the only resident that's available in an emergency situation is gay? I'm guessing that even the most bigoted parents, when faced with these circumstances, are not even going to think to ASK. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it illegal for hospitals to start keeping "gay lists" around?
76
@73 Explain how exactly Dan wanting to live his life and marry the person he loves affects you. Can you?

Maybe you should go back and read what exactly it is that Linda Harvey is saying, and see what Dan is criticizing. Or are you actually defending what she's saying? It sounds like you're not, but you're also trying to distract people from the issue by making completely nonsensical claims. From a 5 year old this would be understandable. I don't know how old you are, but presumably you're old enough to know better. So grow up.

77
@73 - What do you get out of being here on Slog?
78
@77: an erection, no doubt.
79
And God forbid a person of color take care of your child lest any of that rub off. She is an idiot.
80
"Ladies and Gentlemen, meet Dan Savage" is silly sounding, Seattleblues.

Do you know why it is silly? Because many here have met him. Some of us have chatted on the phone even. Others have been introduced to his family members. Some have sat down and ate a meal or chatted over a beer. You see, your attempting to introduce us to someone we know.

I think you are right, society is frowning. A good number of us are frowning at you. We frown at you because you insist that we should have second class citizens. We frown at you because you are talking about and pretending to know someone that many of
us socialize with.

I'll tell you what is exceedingly frustrating, in my opinion, an about 40 year old man who makes up falsehoods and uses coy nicknames like "The Savage" or "Bwarney Fwank". Nigh, it isn't exceedingly frustrating it is distressingly sad. But, hey, it's my $0.02 and I'm aware that it is an opinion that can be dismissed.

Enjoy your day.
81
@ 78 FTW.
82
Kim, do you use a mac or a windows clone?
83
Matt,

My phone. Being legally blind, I can bring it up to my face and see okay, eventhough I have to wear two sets of corrective lenses. Why are my typos hurting your eyes?
84
@ 74

I work from home.
85
@78 and 81

Keeping your strange little fantasies to yourselves would be more seemly...
86
@80

"Because many here have met him. Some of us have chatted on the phone even. Others have been introduced to his family members. Some have sat down and ate a meal or chatted over a beer. You see, your attempting to introduce us to someone we know."

My deepest sympathies. Being in the presence of that level of moral decreptitude, active malice and even evil is truly a horrible way to spend anyones time.

I don't know the fortuitously named Savage. I never will, if my inclinations are consulted.

I don't know one tree from another either, in a general way. But I know the apple tree in my backyard by it's yearly output. And I know Savage by the damaging effect he and those like him have on society.

I have never advocated for second class citizen status for any person. As things stand the laws apply equally to Savage and myself. I can marry a woman, and so can he. He can't marry a man, and neither can I. He and I must equally accept the social consequences of our romantic choices. Perfect equality under the law.

People like Savage do however in insisting that gays have the right to set the social and legal terms for the vast majority of their fellow citizens based solely on their lifestyle choices.
87
Good God. You know what? If I had kids I would want them cared for by people who did their jobs, behaved professionally, and dressed appropriately. THAT is good role modeling. If a doctor or nurse or other staffer is behaving sexually at work, then there's a problem, but a rainbow pin, holding hands, or a peck on the cheek from a visiting significant other is not a problem.
89
Thank you for the laugh, Seattleblues.

You can't convince me that you are not morally decrepit, and not active in your malice. I am glad that you finally admit to not knowing Dan Savage. So in the interest of integrity you'll stop with the falsehoods. Yes?

I do not need nor want your sympathy. But I shall give you this, though, spending time with someone blind to his moral failings and full of perceived moral superiority is a "horrible waste of time." I have tasted the "fruits" of your writings here and fine them unhealthy, even if they are amusing.

Take care.
90
When I was a med student, we, gay med students, would some times talk about how if Jerry Falwell came into the ER we would treat him but try to figure out someway to tell him a gay had saved his life afterwards. I never heard anyone say they wouldn't treat him. We believed in the sanctity of life that these bozos just don't understand. Oh, and now I'm a gay pediatrician, but the only patients I've ever come out to overtly were teenagers who had been thrown out by their parents or who were being bullied about their gayness.
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@88

The SPLC is a bit more questionable than the Anti Defamation League in their ideologically blinded choices, but both are at least attempting good work. And neither are in any way comparable to the execrable Savage.

Dan Savage and the other writers here lie consistently. When they don't lie openly, they misrepresent what others write or say. They read only far left echo chamber sources and skew even those farther left in misleading headlines to postings. The SPLC should be eyeballing Savage and the Stranger if they're after hate groups as much as some of the admittedly bigoted groups they do list.

For reference, see the ongoing jihad Savage is waging against Rick Santorum. Mr. Santorum isn't a public official, nor likely to become one. He has no effect on the life of Savage or anyone else who simply ignores him. But since Savage tasted the bullies' power of a vicious and vulgar personal campaign against the man he simply can't do without that addiction. This is of a pattern with pretty much any political stance taken by the Stranger. Personal attack stands in for reasoned analysis, and unsupported assertions for supporting cites.

Comparing this cesspool to the occasional good work of the SPLC and Anti Defamation League is itself defamatory.
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Well, I see our favorite village idiot has poked his head from his burrow, and unleashes yet more typed drivel resembling mental diarrhea. Case in point:”I have never advocated for second class citizen status for any person. As things stand the laws apply equally to Savage and myself. I can marry a woman, and so can he. He can't marry a man, and neither can I. He and I must equally accept the social consequences of our romantic choices. Perfect equality under the law.”
Well, let’s just make a slight change to this statement and see if we can’t make it a little clearer, hmm?
“I can marry a woman AS LONG AS THEY ARE OF THE SAME RACE.”
Wasn’t that long ago the rule of the law said the above was true. Of course, things have changed since then, but some people refuse to evolve. Fine by me. It never ceases to amaze me how some people can be so obtuse about certain things, and refuse to examine their point of view. Of course, the easy answer is because they are an idiot.
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@91:
"Mr. Santorum isn't a public official, nor likely to become one."

Really? Man, you must have blown a lobe or something. Not a big history fan, I take it. Or up on current events. Or, as I posted previously, maybe you're just an idiot. Should we have a Slog Poll for that? I mean, that was just a FAIL of epic magnitude...
94
pay no attention to SB. he's nothing but a pack of cards.
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@ Seattleblues
Sounds like privileged dominant culture baby needs his bottle so hims less cwanky.
96
@94

And he is short a deck.
97
Glance in the mirror, man-

You do realize that Rick Santorum isn't a public or elected official at present, right?

And you do realize his poll numbers and campaign status strongly suggest that he has the proverbial snowballs chance in hell of becoming president, right?

And you realize that there is a huge difference between being born a woman or black or asian and being born with a predilection to homosexuality? No? Who's the idiot again?
98
When i was in 7th grade i had heart surgery. My nurse was a man named George and now that i think back on it he was probably gay. Do you know what i remember most about that day? I HAD HEART SURGERY. Do you really think kids pay attention to this stuff when in a hospital and do you really think a nurse is going to talk about their sexual relations? common now.
99
Religious nuts are just insane.
100
Seattleblues, if running for the office of POTUS, and appearing on television in debates, making public appearances and speeches, if having been on television as a paid commentator, if issuing press releases, if having previously served as an elected official, does not make one a public figure, what, pray tell, does? It has nothing to do with whatever chances they have.

And there is a huge difference between being born a woman or black or asian and being born with a predilection to homosexuality? What ever could it be? Since you are the self-proclaimed genius who spewed this pile of crap, how about you 'edjumucate' the rest of us heathens?

Seattleblues, this has been said before, and it so rightly applies to you: "It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

You have just spewed stupid all over Slog. do you know how hard it is to clean that up? Man, what a tool.
101
I can't believe people keep feeding this troll whenever it shows up. WTF. Is it fun or something?

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