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I guess WSLCB didn't go to the Guided by Voices show at the Showbox Sodo last year.
2
You can smell the panic.
4
Jake: Bob, about our money for tonight.
Bob: That's right. Uh $200, and you boys drank $300 worth of beer.
Elwood: Uh, well, like, when we first come in the bar lady never charged us for the first round so like we figured you know beer was like complimentary for the band.
5
Link needs fixin', Grant. Thank you.
6
This rule is completely ridiculous and should probably be overturned, yet going an hour without drinking hardly seems catastrophic.
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Mr. X, only the underlined text in the pdf is the changed bit. The proposed change reads:

Entertainers per WAC 314-02-010 may drink while performing under the following conditions:
(A) Alcohol service must be monitored by MAST servers;
(B) Drinks must be served in nondescript containers;
(C) Entertainers may not advertise any alcohol brands or products;
(D) Entertainers may not promote drink specials; and
(E) All entertainers performing as a group must be twenty-one years of age or older or no alcohol may be consumed by any entertainer while performing.

And no, I don't know what MAST servers are, but whatever.
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Wait, what? This is a real law?

People drink all the time on stage.
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@6: The worst thing about the rule is that venues can and have been fined for this.

If the WSLCB considers me an employee of the venue while I'm playing on stage, then myself and the other folks in my band should be getting paid minimum wage while we set up, play, and tear down. It would probably be more money than my bands have made at quite a few shows.
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@3: The proposed rule change says the following:

(d) Consume liquor of any kind while working on the
licensed premises; except that:
(i) Entertainers per WAC 314-02-010 may drink while
performing under the following conditions:

How is that not a change in the current policy? See the "except that" followed by "(i) Entertainers....may drink while performing......"

Yes there are still some conditions on musician drinking, but this is an end to the blanket prohibition, and the conditions don't seem particularly unreasonable.

Or am I missing something?
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Grant: Maybe you could go into the text you have quoted from with the entire rule in it and underline the part that is being changed, so people can see the new language in the context of the whole rule.
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It's at the bottom of the post and now in this comment:

Here is the jist:

(i) Entertainers per WAC 314-02-010 may drink while
performing under the following conditions:
(A) Alcohol service must be monitored by MAST servers;
(B) Drinks must be served in nondescript containers;
(C) Entertainers may not advertise any alcohol brands or products;
(D) Entertainers may not promote drink specials; and
(E) All entertainers performing as a group must be twenty-one years of age or older or no alcohol may be consumed by any entertainer while performing.
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Maybe you should have given credit to the guy Chris who started the ball rolling
14
Bar entertainers are not employees, period. If they are, the IRS might want to know about all the income tax and social security they should have withheld from my $12-per-show for the last 20 years.
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@6 Josh - catastrophic, no, but man, I miss being able to do it. It's just such a lame law.

@7 Levi - MAST = Mandatory Alcohol Server Training. ("MAST permit holder" would make more sense.) Basically someone who has a liquor card, which in theory should be any employee who serves booze in a bar or restaurant.

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There's the law, and then there's interpretation... Last winter I worked a Seattle club that posted copious warnings all around the backstage areas BANNING ALL ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION by "employees," anywhere on the premises. The club owners/management apparently read the law (their lawyer likely helped with the bigger words), and they flat freaked out. Say what you will about consumption by musicians and entertainers in general, but for many of us it is ritual (and beneficial!) to relieve pre-show jitters with a beer or a quick shot prior to going on. Also, there is very little risk associated with artists having a beer or two onstage during a 90min+ set. I could never figure out who this law was intended to protect. Relaxing it seems entirely reasonable to me; removing it entirely would be better still...
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People who are "in a band" and get free beer for playing is one thing. This rule deeply affects major artists, who often have a standard contract specifying what kind of alcoholic beverages will be provided onstage.
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@ Mr. X: Wrong. Let's quote the whole section E: "(E) All entertainers performing as a group must be twenty-one years of age or older or no alcohol may be consumed by any entertainer while performing.CR 102 – Notice to Stakeholders 8/24/11"

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