maby i don't know enough about politics, im cool with taxing crap like this+ soda,candy ,ciggies,beer.but jessus christ, banning it outright is stupid, i feel like we are in Utah or something..
I don't drink the stuff, I don't care for what I assume to be the target demographic (ditzy blondes and suburban wannabe thugs?), and I think this is ridiculous.
@20 that assumes they like the taste of the things in those combinations, which by and large high school and teens don't. Adult palates are less sensitive to sweet flavors and hence adults typically prefer sour and bitter tastes more. All they'll do is dump vodka into cans of Rockstar, or worse yet combine malt liquor and Red Bull.
Buy a bottle of vodka at the duty free store and a jug of concentrated coffee liquor, add sugar (best is "french" vanilla made from cane, but an anise sugar has a certain kick) and do it yourself.
Oh for fucks sake, Four Loko and all those other piss-water alcoholic malt beverages wouldn't even exist if it were not for their "beer" exception allowing them in grocery stores.
@20: We "young kids" are fully aware of vodka + redbulls... the beauty of the loko is not the flavor, it's the fact that it's only $3. After one, you're usually good to go for the night. I guess we're just a more economical generation...
I don't think we ever have to worry about wine or coffee being banned.
This Four Loco crap though-- I'm glad they issued an emergency ban.
Everyone should be informed of the effects of combining stimulants and depressants.
why do they need a 120 day temporary banning period to make rules about a permanent ban? they should just say it's banned and you can't buy it in the state anymore. done, the govt. should pay me the wages of the entire committee for those 120 days because i just made it so nobody had to waste their time.
Have you ever seen a group of teenagers at a fast-food restaurant? They're like bottomless wells when it comes to consuming Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper or Mountain Dew.
Minors shouldn't be drinking alcohol period. If a party full of minors were drinking tequila and got sick would they ban that next? Don't take drinks away from responsible adults because a bunch of kids are doing something illegal.
Minors shouldn't be drinking alcohol period. If a party full of minors were drinking tequila and got sick would they ban that next? Don't take drinks away from responsible adults because a bunch of kids are doing something illegal.
If only we had the opportunity to vote on defunding the state monopoly on liquor so that this kind of knee jerk nanny policing wouldn't be possible....
Oh we did and you voted against it. Nice going. Enjoy your pabst.
Haven't we learned ANYTHING about bans and making drugs illegal? I still teach young people and if you want to stir their interest in ANYTHING, just make it illegal; suddenly it has the appeal of a wrapped Christmas Gift that says, "Do not touch."
Ya know what happened after schools started "warning" students about Auto Erotic Asphyxiation? The numbers of kids who died hanging naked in their closets soared. You can't present "The Forbidden Fruit" and then say, "it's bad for you," or "and now it's illegal, so you can't get it." I've been teaching, and speaking, and counseling for more than three decades and the best thing you can do is present ALL the evidence. Explain why people use the drugs or try the dangerous sexual experiments, and then, if you're lucky you can introduce them to someone who narrowly escaped death. Curiosity killed the cat and we are pretty much stuck with that. I love the kids I teach. I want nothing more than for them to lead healthy happy lives, BUT the minute an adult starts "lecturing" I watch as they go deaf and start daydreaming; partly because adults have been lying to them all their lives. e.g. masturbation is a sin and will make you sick, marihuana leads to heroin, you can get AIDS from kissing, you can get pregnant from necking, and the myriad of lies about drugs. Face it "adult credibility" with kids ain't nothin' to brag about.
I've found something that seems to work better than most of the "grownup crap" we use. I make them LAUGH. I get them to see the rank stupidity of killing yourself for a supposedly great orgasm (and tell them with hypnosis I can show them the Orgasm that keeps a guy's toes curled for days afterward). When I lecture to guys I answer every question with the ABSOLUTE TRUTH as I know it. And I admit when either I don't know the answer or I find out that I've been wrong. I tell them about the stupid crap I've done in my life, and how lucky I am to have survived. I also tell them about my brushes with death and what it's like to work with kids on the Cord Unit as well as the victims of bashing that are brought into the ER. I do my best to be sincere and tell them that THEY scare the shit out of me because too many of them are fearless to the point of stupidity, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE. I let them know that I worry about each and every one of them for fear they will think I'm just another adult asshole there to try to scare them into doing what I say. I hope they can feel my concern and know I'm not some BS motivational guy (no offense, you KNOW what I mean). AND I TRY TO KEEP THEM LAUGHING AT ME, AT THEMSELVES, AND AT HUMAN NATURE IN GENERAL.
Sigh.
I'm sure it tastes awful, and I'd be caught dead before drinking one. But telling people what they can and cant put in their bodies is wrong.
And another thing: How is this any different from a Vodka+Redbull, or even a Jack+Coke? Besides tasting far worse, that is.
how will i ever 'enjoy' a 'tully bomb'?
Jack-and-Cokes, Cuba Libres or Irish Coffees, that's the way to go...
SAVE FOUR LOKO!
Buy a bottle of vodka at the duty free store and a jug of concentrated coffee liquor, add sugar (best is "french" vanilla made from cane, but an anise sugar has a certain kick) and do it yourself.
This Four Loco crap though-- I'm glad they issued an emergency ban.
Everyone should be informed of the effects of combining stimulants and depressants.
...Perhaps I should buy cases of it and then sell them around town during xmas time.
caffeine = legal
combining the two = illegal
ok!
Have you ever seen a group of teenagers at a fast-food restaurant? They're like bottomless wells when it comes to consuming Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper or Mountain Dew.
http://www.hipsterrunoff.com/2008/12/dea…
@14 i agree, but something should be done to inform these kids about the dangers of this drink.
Oh we did and you voted against it. Nice going. Enjoy your pabst.
Ya know what happened after schools started "warning" students about Auto Erotic Asphyxiation? The numbers of kids who died hanging naked in their closets soared. You can't present "The Forbidden Fruit" and then say, "it's bad for you," or "and now it's illegal, so you can't get it." I've been teaching, and speaking, and counseling for more than three decades and the best thing you can do is present ALL the evidence. Explain why people use the drugs or try the dangerous sexual experiments, and then, if you're lucky you can introduce them to someone who narrowly escaped death. Curiosity killed the cat and we are pretty much stuck with that. I love the kids I teach. I want nothing more than for them to lead healthy happy lives, BUT the minute an adult starts "lecturing" I watch as they go deaf and start daydreaming; partly because adults have been lying to them all their lives. e.g. masturbation is a sin and will make you sick, marihuana leads to heroin, you can get AIDS from kissing, you can get pregnant from necking, and the myriad of lies about drugs. Face it "adult credibility" with kids ain't nothin' to brag about.
I've found something that seems to work better than most of the "grownup crap" we use. I make them LAUGH. I get them to see the rank stupidity of killing yourself for a supposedly great orgasm (and tell them with hypnosis I can show them the Orgasm that keeps a guy's toes curled for days afterward). When I lecture to guys I answer every question with the ABSOLUTE TRUTH as I know it. And I admit when either I don't know the answer or I find out that I've been wrong. I tell them about the stupid crap I've done in my life, and how lucky I am to have survived. I also tell them about my brushes with death and what it's like to work with kids on the Cord Unit as well as the victims of bashing that are brought into the ER. I do my best to be sincere and tell them that THEY scare the shit out of me because too many of them are fearless to the point of stupidity, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THERE. I let them know that I worry about each and every one of them for fear they will think I'm just another adult asshole there to try to scare them into doing what I say. I hope they can feel my concern and know I'm not some BS motivational guy (no offense, you KNOW what I mean). AND I TRY TO KEEP THEM LAUGHING AT ME, AT THEMSELVES, AND AT HUMAN NATURE IN GENERAL.