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Awesome picture.
Adam is the greatest!
Oh hay it is the back of my head!
Personally, I liked the typo laden coverage. With every one I read, I imagined a Stranger staffer hastily typing out their stream of consciousness in the few precious minutes before deadline.
(Yet I still hate seeing it on Slog for some reason... I think it's because this is a medium with unlimited opportunity for correction, and I would hope you're not drunk ALL the time.)
"fabulous, zeitgeist-capturing"? It's all white people. Happy people, sure. But this moment is about black Americans finally having full ownership in the American dream. Way to celebrate your silly selves.
(I'm a white, silly person myself, for the record.)
That's a lily-white photo.
What #5 and #6 said. I know we're suddenly "postracial" and all, but this is mind-boggling.
@5-there are actually some tragic mulattos present in the crowd. Boo to you.
How many black people were at the Showbox? How many black people live on Capitol Hill or Downtown? This is a pretty white city, in case you hadn't noticed.
Me, I'll never complain about a picture of a pretty girl with her arms in the air. And as a photograph it's quite good.
How many black people were at the Showbox? How many black people live on Capitol Hill or Downtown? This is a pretty white city, in case you hadn't noticed.
Funny how they somehow managed to overcome this disparity and post a video consisting of practically 100% black people, oh, ONE FUCKING POST BACK.
"Yeah, we can't use this picture because there aren't any black people in it. We need a more accurate photo of the night than this one that somehow exists for unexplainable reasons. We can't risk being viewed as racist, so we need to constantly be thinking about skin color instead of the best shot of the moment we have to share. I mean, our new President is black, and that's what this entire election was about. Right guys?"
I agree with the criticism about it being "lily white", but I strongly disagree that "this moment is about black Americans finally having full ownership in the American dream". That is without a doubt part of it, but it's also about some of us finally feeling like our country (and the world) is on the right track again. Like we have respect for our country and the democratic process again.
@10
Gee, maybe that has something to do with the video being set at Seattle’s Oldest Private Black Social Club, you fucking idiot.
Some cute bitch at Stranger's downtown party or everybody dancing in the streets at Pike and Broadway? tough choice
That photo is soooo amazing. It captures the zeitgeist all right, and in ways that some people are already getting a little embarassed about just a couple days later. Excellent choice.
Is that Todd Palin sneaking in from the right? Looks like he's happy Obama won too.
it was about youth, too. their adolescence & college years have been all bush & wars. they got off their asses & helped us put a sane, competent person in the white house.
@13
Thank you for pointing out the obvious, you insufferable prat. What you apparently fail to comprehend is that the whole reason this moment is being trumpeted as HISTORIC is because a black dude was elected to the most powerful position in the world. Referring to this lily-white bullshit as capturing the zeitgeist is either deliberately obtuse and/or willfully ignorant.
Which, upon further reflection, describes Mr. Poe perfectly. Fucktard.
Well done Slog commenters! With the election over the time is right to say 'to Hell with Unity' and starting hating each other again!'
Alright slogger, prove this city isn't 'lily white' and click on my URL and sign up to possibly be on a Slog Calendar!
Hurry, there are only 24 spots, 12 for men, 12 for women....
=)
Thats hot.
It's just one pic, and she's hot, so chill.
I think it's great with all the young folks supporting Obama.
However, it seems like he's stocking his Cabinet with a bunch of old farts from Clinton days.
Where's the novelty?
For all those getting their panties in a bunch about this photo and how it doesn't celebrate black America enough . . . I'd say that a roomful of white people celebrating a black president is pretty damn gratifying for black America.
@18
Speaking of pointing out the obvious, you noticed there aren't any black people in the photo! And you didn't even say it, you pointed to #5 and #6! There's so much obvious up in this bitch it's practically irrelevant! Like your opinion of this photo!
The "whole reason" this moment is being trumpeted as historic is because Obama is the first black President? Wow! You take "seeing black & white" to a whole new level!
Seattle Ethnicity Makeup, 2000.
Pop. 2000 563,374
White 382,532 67.90%
Black 46,545 8.26%
Asian 73,512 13.05%
Hispanic 29,719 5.28%
Other 31,066 5.51%
We're more Asian than Black, and 2/3 white is not lily-white.
Out of all the ridiculous pictures from that night, you chose this one? Not even worth picking up.
Ahh, Mr. Poe. All the inflated self-importance of John Bailo, all the literacy of Chelsea Alvarez-Bell. Shine on you crazy diamond!
@26
ZOMG BUT ASIANS AREN'T BLACK AND OUR NEW PWEZ ISN"T ASIA'IN!!!! THIS ENTIRE ELECTION IS CUZ OPF THE SKIN COLORACEOR IDIOT
I'm just excited to see the nameplate getting a little special treatment. Looks good.
I wasn't angered by the cover, but I must say it was a little disappointing not to be able to see any people of color in the picture. It was the very first thing I noticed, especially after looking at photos from all over the country where black, white and brown were celebrating together. Even if Seattle isn't really "lily white" that's the impression many people have and, unfortunately, this image doesn't challenge that misconception.
BLAAAAARRR I DUNNO WHAT 'ZEITGEIST' MEANS MOMMY IT HURTS WHEN I READ
@28
I am my biggest fan, it's true. But I actually have fans. So does John Bailo, and even Chelsea Alvarez-Bell. You? You have a crappy handle and the IQ of hogshit.
OK, Max, now do one for Capitol and Downtown. Then do one for the readership of the Stranger. I'm sure the ad department could help you out.
There might be blacks and asians in the picture, too; you can't really tell. All you can tell for sure is there's some mighty happy people there. It's a good photograph. The girl is extremely pretty. The purpose of the cover is not to represent the demographic makeup of the city, and Obama's victory does not belong to black people alone. This is also not the only picture of the night that you can find; most of those pictures of the celebrations in the streets were "lily-white" too.
Would you be happier with a picture of that old fraud Jesse Jackson crying?
We chose the picture because her teeth are so similar to Obama's.
We are all the same under the front lip.
It was cool to see this cover on the street on Wednesday. Nice job. But why is the "YES WE DID" cropped off the left-hand side?
@18 -This is no doubt an historic moment for the reason that Obama is the first black president. But it's also true that it's historic because he achieved a remarkable and seemingly impossible victory over an administration that is the worst in our nation's history. And Obama is going to have a far more difficult job than most presidents in our nation's history. The black community is right to be proud and to celebrate this monumental win. Heck, I'm a honky chick and I am brought to tears
(of joy) when I think about the huge racial breakthrough we have just made in America. It's almost unbelievable and I'm still high from the electricity and enthusiasm of his win.
It's not the color of his skin that makes me so damned proud though. It's the fact that not only do we now have an African American as President-Elect, we have an INTELLIGENT HUMAN BEING. Granted, after 8 years of Bush the intelligence standards haven't been set very high. I would have voted for anyone other than McCain because the thought of a McCain/Palin administration made me want to slit my wrists. Obama however is someone whom has inspired millions of Americans to vote and he has done so without having to stoop to the fear inducing evil tactics that the McCain campaign did. Even myself, a thirty year old "progressive" and activist Seattlite, has to confess for voting for the first time. Ever.
Obama's victory is a win for everyone and we (white people too) can all breathe a collective sigh of relief!!!!!!!!
Pardon me, the "upper lip."
And if we had run a picture of ecstatic African Americans on the cover, we'd be accused of tokenism.
We picked the best picture, period, which we judged solely on the content, no on the color of its skins.
Thank you for playing Slog.
@33
Heavens, I had no idea I was conversing with the KING OF BLOG COMMENTERS! We'll be sure to note that in your epitaph when you die during an ill-fated bout of autoerotic asphyxiation.
And, allow me to say, that's quite a fetching construction paper crown you're wearing!
well.. the stranger disappoints.a disappointment that was inevitable given the wide swath of pepole with different interests and perspectives. but i wasn't disapopinted so much by the cover as i was the lack of inclusion of other places to party in the print issues and on slog in the weeks before the big deal. and i was one of many who showed up at the showbox at 5:30 to witness a line wrapped around the block mostly with people on cell phones trying to negotiate where to else to go.i went to the showbox after leaving 'thompsons point of view' which was pretty damn festive by 4 pm.
luckily i ended up at the war room where, despite the impression of capitol hill being not so racially diverse, had most of the elements of a perfect celebration( i wish it had been all ages )and kudos to the dj's who kept the place banging mightily for the rest of the night.
.. i still can't believe it.
Is that guy to her right checking out her butt or back?
I'd much rather look at a picture of all white people than a picture with a token minority stuck in there to please somebody who probably is just sitting on the sidelines anyway. I have not idea what feels so great about being pandered to anyway.
I have monarchal powers over blogs?!
As my husband kept screaming at the TV talking-head pundits trying to overanalyze the victory Tuesday night, we didn't vote specifically for the black one. We voted for the SMART ONE!
Who cares. It's still a great cover.
The End
Fail.
@9 - there were tons of black people on the street with me, partying and shouting.
You guys really need to get out sometime ...
Dr. Savage Mudede fails at photographic composition.
oh - and @9 Fnarf - within FOUR BLOCKS of the Showbox, I must have partied with HUNDREDS of black people, so you guys really need to get OUT more.
Doesn't anyone else have pics from downtown?
At the War Room, where I hosted a party, there were folks of all colors, and all walks of life. I'm sure it was the same at the Showbox, and everywhere else in town.
And, for sure, the crowd at Pike & Broadway was a diverse mix. Old, young, black, white, brown, yellow,gay, straight....
It's a great cover photo, regardless of the color.
Anyway, are you sure there are no blacks in that pic? Take a look at the woman in front of the guy in the purple polo shirt. You only see a sliver of her, with dark straight hair and an upraised hand. Can't exactly tell where her ancestors came from, but I doubt it was northern Europe. And she looks like at least 5% of the picture.
I don't know about you guys, but the one thing that struck me was, "are there any Hawaiians in that photo?"
Because this is historic, what with it being the first president from Hawaii... and that photo looks awfully full of Washingtonians to me.
@38, but we are all the same under the back lip, too, aren't we?
Sheesh! some people need to get a life and move on. It is a photo of young voters who really made a difference. They were not voting "The Black Guy," they voted for the best person, regardless of any skin tones.
Spirited, energetic, and determined young voters at that.
Oh, and it's a great angled shot. Not a straight on boring head shot.
Oh, and she looks cute with that t-shirt.
could that also be a reason for the photo section?
Are you saying the media chooses pictures of young attractive women more frequently than other pictures?
Next thing you know, you'll tell me the media obsesses when they go missing ... for weeks on end ...