History Marxism Rising
posted by on November 4 at 9:24 AM
Forget Obama’s purported “socialism”—historians are saying the current crisis of capitalism is going to drive all governments towards statist economic policy.
“Laissez-faire, c’est fini,” said President Nicolas Sarkozy. “We will intervene massively whenever a strategic enterprise needs our money.”
Such language can now be heard daily across Europe. It can only intensify as the fall-out from the EU’s €1.8bn trillion (£1.4 trillion) bank rescue becomes clearer, and as Europe’s elites discover that their own banks are the most leveraged in the world and have played their own Wagnerian part in Gotterdammerung.
Professor Hobsbawm, who spent his youth watching Hitler’s rise in Berlin, has a warning for those who think this will help the Left in any recognizable form. “In the 1930s, the net political effect of the Depression was to enormously strengthen the Right,” he said.
More at the Telegraph.
It's equally likely to help either the left or the right. Perhaps in Germany depression helped the Right, but in America, it seems to have helped the Left (FDR?). Though we also had a war or something around that time.
It's most likely to help whoever is opposed to whoever was in power at the time things went to hell. So. And.
people will make a choice - for 'socialism' or fascism. in '32, the choice of roosevelt was not a victory for 'the right', professor. and neither is '08.
On pourait touer des babes phoques?
Who gets to determine strategic, and at what point does it not become worth it?
The "Free Market" has always been a fucking joke.
See especially The Rise And Decline Of Economic Liberalism, by Frederic Clairmont and Forces Of Production, by David Noble; as well as Main Currents In Modern American History, The Triumph Of Conservatism, and Railroads And Regulation by Gabriel Kolko.
and further who pays for it
I tuned into AM right wing radio on the commute home and caught hour two of what sounded like a three hour tirade by Michael Savage on the brownshirt army of Obama socialists about to seize power in America; how they would find ways to seize our guns and solidify state control.
I was laughing and thinking how idiotic and paranoid it all sounded until I suddenly realized that this is what the left has sounded like for the last eight years.
yes, it could help the right, esp. if the left continues to be lazy, unorgznied, afraid to call bullshit on the right, for exmample all these Obama supporters who seem to think that after he wins the election it's over and done and we can all go home and celebrate victory and all problems are solved
it's jsut the start of huge poltiical fight
and yes the right likely will pull some neofascist shit
so the left better fucking be ready to respond (peacefully) assertively.
Like they FAILED TO DO in response to Hitler, enough. In fact everyone failed to respond enough even the right.
He got into office with aminority and used illegal street beatings the fire etc. to create a crisis to take over
this tactic is replicated over and over to put the right into power
you have been warned, pls. don't let the right do this here.
Demagoguery of all stripes picks up steam during hard times. People long for easy answers. Many have speculated that the soft socialism of the New Deal was FDR's preemptive move against a very real and powerful Red socialism movement that was gaining traction. The potential for social unrest was terrifying to the monied classes (of which FDR was a member.) Roosevelt's policies seemed to relieve some of this pressure from the working class.
Of course, that didn't stop some of the captains of finance and industry from planning a fascist coup of the Roosevelt administration.
@8: you're joking, right?
quick, name the left's equivalent to michael savage, in terms of outreach & degree of vitriolic, hateful, paranoid lies & distortions. mike malloy? randi rhodes?
you're not paranoid if they really are trashing the constitution & conducting class warfare.