Slog - Comments on Good News and Bad News for City Parkers

Comment by Max

Max — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 15:59:52 -0800

I don't mind parking prices going up because I can't stand the inability to find parking for pay. If the spaces are saturated, then clearly prices are too low. This is true of some free parking as well. Ask any macroeconomist about "price floors".

Comment by Renee

Renee — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:16:05 -0800

This makes so much sense. I actually believe downtown street parking should cost about the same as parking lot parking. The city should not be subsidizing driving.

Comment by Will in Seattle

Will in Seattle — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:20:17 -0800

Any chance we can triple the parking fine for anyone who files unconstitutional initiatives three or more times? And sell their car?

Comment by elenchos

elenchos — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:22:49 -0800

Obviusly if the city is going to offer parking at below-market rates it is going to be scarce. Duh.

I mean DUH. Let me say that a gain. Duh!

Want to find parking quickly? Pay market rates. Want to park for a fraction of the real cost? Drive around in circles for half an hour, spewing pollution and wasting gas.

(Or ride a motorcycle. Lots of free motorcycle parking downtown and elsewhere, if you know where to look.)

Comment by minderbender

minderbender — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:53:59 -0800

Agree completely with Max, except don't ask a macroeconomist, ask a microeconomist. Or really, ask any economist. And stop subsidizing parking:

http://www.amazon.com/High-Cost-Free-Parking/dp/1884829988

Comment by David Wright

David Wright — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:03:44 -0800

A proposed two-step compromise with ECB and those like her who want to micro-regulate parking policy:

Step 1: All street parking costs money.

Step 2: No regulations on how much parking housing developments must provide provide or not provide. If we do not distort the market with free street parking, we can let the market find the equilibirum supply of private parking.

Comment by minderbender

minderbender — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:03:50 -0800

Actually, scratch that. Ask any economist about price ceilings, not floors. Price ceilings lead to shortages and non-price rationing (in the case of parking, drivers pay in time spent circling the block instead of in money). If you believe in walkable cities, or reducing pollution, or economic efficiency, you should oppose subsidized parking.

Comment by Providence

Providence — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:16:13 -0800

It isn't Providence Hospital any more, it is Swedish Cherry Hill. Make a note of it.

Comment by die greenlake yuppy

die greenlake yuppy — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:22:49 -0800

wtf? I live right off Roosevelt, between it and Greenlake, and never have any reason to pay to park up there. Why the fuck do rich Greenlake bastards need a lower fare?

Comment by dgs

dgs — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:24:00 -0800

and why are we now subsidizing their parking!?>?

Comment by oliveoyl

oliveoyl — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:11:26 -0800

Bravo! ... parking should be cost enough to make one think twice about driving vs taking the bus. Before the new pay/meter system the problem wasn't the cost but rather the copious amounts of change required but now that's figured out... I say charge market rate.

Comment by gry mklsk

gry mklsk — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:41:25 -0800

shout out to Providence! she's unemployed last i heard but playing in three bands fresh out of the same place they kept cobain or courthey after an 'episode' - Med Licensed Technicians rock! Ask her to do a paradiddle next time at the High Dive.

Center City Parking Program, how quaint Erica, explain to the eighth graders about mnemonics, CCPP. Scratch that, C City Pee Program is easy enough to remember.

Comment by Bryce Beamish

Bryce Beamish — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 06:53:58 -0800

I'm all for raising the hourly parking rate, but for fucks sake, give some relief to those of us who have to deal with street/sidewalk closures due to constant fucking condo construction. The section of First Hill that I live in has lost three entire streets worth of parking in the last two years because of the mother fucking condo boom.

Comment by elenchos

elenchos — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:56:35 -0800

@13

Bryce, I complained to SDOT about construction closing the sidewalk on both sides of the street in Ballard, in violation of the Right of Way Management Program.

SDOT made one them open a temporary sidwalk, because they didn't have a permit to close it. They wouldn't have been issued one, under the guidelines but they had gone ahead and done it anyway. They probably assumed nobody would speak up.

So if you see the sidewalk unreasonably blocked, complain to SDOT.