Slog - Comments on Campaign Ads

Comment by Proof your fucking posts!

Proof your fucking posts! — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:00:23 -0800

Jesus!

This sentence means what? "But would it look like if gay people really did recruit? "

P.S. Hot mouth.

Comment by w7ngman

w7ngman — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:01:09 -0800

That first one is sexist as hell.

Comment by Sigh

Sigh — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:14:05 -0800

The misogyny is unfortunate. Homophobia and sexism go hand in hand. To mainstream culture, fear of gay men = fear of the feminine. The biggest insult between boys in middle school is "fag" and "pussy." And of course, a dyke is perceived as "unfeminine," and therefore unnaccepting of a subordinate position in society, right? I feel sorry for your son if this is the kind of bullshit you're teaching him Dan.

Comment by la

la — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:18:52 -0800

That first one should read "Be a Gay Man" rather than just "Be Gay". Being female, I had a to read the ad several times to understand it. That's a bad sign, it should be easier for everyone to underestand.

I thnk the other ad is too suggestive to go mainstream.

Comment by lusk

lusk — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:20:24 -0800

Uncle Sam Wants You!*

*No, really.

@3, I agree to an extent (about homophobia and sexism), but I don't think these are meant to be taken as actual positions, but mockeries of supposed agendas.

Comment by rob

rob — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:20:56 -0800

The "runner-up" is fall-down funny. I'll never be able to do head-hangin'-over again without chuckling.

Comment by Seriously

Seriously — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:29:10 -0800

Why all the hatin' on the ladies? The best message some of them can come up with, even jokingly, is "go gay: you don't have to pretend like or respect women ever again! wheeee!" Really?

Comment by tomasyalba

tomasyalba — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:31:00 -0800

Eddie Izzard or the Little Britain boys need to rip this to shreds. The Pythons would have had a field day.

Comment by Julie in Chicago

Julie in Chicago — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:54:29 -0800

I didn't have any issue with the first one, but mostly because I didn't take any of it seriously. I see the potential point about sexism though.

Comment by genevieve

genevieve — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:07:16 -0800

It's not so much that the first ad is sexist (the GA Why? one on the link is much more sexist), but that clearly lesbians weren't included in the campaign.

Comment by EmmiG

EmmiG — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:43:04 -0800

The first one is sexist because it acts like gay females don't even exist.

Comment by Westside forever

Westside forever — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:57:08 -0800

It it can really do all "she can do" I'd like to see the guy in the second one pass an 8 lb baby out of that mouth.

Comment by Vince

Vince — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:10:42 -0800

Because having children should be a conscious choice and not the price of doing business or the result of too much booze.

Comment by Mike in MO

Mike in MO — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:38:42 -0800

I�m not sure what bisexuals would choose�zoophilia?

Danny, that's just not nice. Bisexuals would just keep doing what we've always done -fuck everything in sight.

Sheesh! You'd think bisexuals passed prop 8 or something...

Comment by argh

argh — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:10:10 -0800

I think the first ad is trying to be clever, but fails.

Also, the line "Because Responsibility is Easier to Avoid" is annoying. What about HIV? Just because you are a gay man doesn't mean you get to throw away your condoms and avoid responsibility.

Comment by OH

OH — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:24:08 -0800

The first one is sexist. Dan, you know that women's bodies and sexualities are mocked and derided in ways that men's bodies and sexualities aren't--I've heard you say so on one of your most recent podcasts (in relation to a woman being uncomfortable with a man going down on her). And as you said this has real consequences for women in relationships, particularly heterosexual relationships--our bodies get ugly when we get old we're told over and over again (and lo and behold 90% of all cosmetic plastic surgery is done on women at great cost to women). We're told over and over again that we must be absolutely hairless in virtually all places, or we are "gross." (And, voila, women get nervous about men sniffing our crotches).

And this isn't "gay people bitching about straight people" it's clearly a male voice (the writer may or may not be gay) bitching about women in order to bond with other men, and doing so as if he's representing a universal voice, which also suggests that women aren't even worth taking account of--either as readers or as gay people. So, yes, sexist.