Slog - Comments on Women in Love http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1 Sad. Carol Anne Burger killed her former lover by stabbing her 222 times with a Phillips-head screwdriver and then took pains to hide her crime, police said Wednesday. Jessica Kalish, who shared a house with Burger despite breaking up with her more than a year ago, was found last Thursday stuffed in the backseat of her gun-metal BMW sedan, abandoned behind a medical office at 2300 S. Congress Avenue. Her blood was splashed around the rear end and undercarriage of the car, as if her killer had tried to load her into the trunk. The driver-side window was shattered.... Their... Copyright 2008 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:51:16 -0800 Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:55:49 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Julie in Chicago I wish I hadn't been eating lunch when I read "222 times". That's terrible...

One of my in-laws is a Chicago cop, and she once said that gay domestic disputes are even worse than straight ones (more vicious and difficult to handle). I was surprised by that because it wasn't something I had ever heard before... Not that one incident proves that point, but still, this sounds particularly brutal.

]]> Julie in Chicago http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186812 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186812 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:07:10 -0800 Comment by whatevernevermind If you had told me a year ago that we'd soon be having homicides and suicides across this country over real estate, I'd never have believed you.

Very, very, very sad.

Tuesday can't be over fast enough.

]]> whatevernevermind http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186813 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186813 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:07:32 -0800 Comment by Cato the Younger Younger This is why this gay boy will never marry one of those fucked up lesbian chicks.

Shit, they are fucking CRAZY!!!

]]> Cato the Younger Younger http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186817 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186817 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:10:11 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave When you pull a juvenile stunt like splitting the house in two, only bad things can happen.

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186819 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186819 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:12:26 -0800 Comment by whatevernevermind @1 I've heard that's believed to be true because, in same-sex domestic disputes, the people at odds are more evenly matched physically, so the fight isn't over as quickly or decisively.

I don't think that applies in this case, where the killer apparently just lost her sanity completely. She just also happened to be gay.

]]> whatevernevermind http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186823 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186823 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:14:21 -0800 Comment by Uncle Vinny This is the saddest thing I've read all week.

]]> Uncle Vinny http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186830 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186830 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:19:53 -0800 Comment by Dave M
You left out an important detail, Burger committed suicide after Kalish's body was found.

]]> Dave M http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186832 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186832 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:23:14 -0800 Comment by cdc Really sad.

Did y'all see the depressing story in the NY Times about the divorced (straight) couple living in a divided-up mansion, taking out their anger with each other through the house...

]]> cdc http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186837 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186837 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:25:32 -0800 Comment by angelika jesus, that is horrible. That's 222 times to think about what the fuck you're doing.
I'm not really sure I'll believe that gay domestic disputes are much different from straight ones, I think it all comes down to the people disputing, really. And what they are willing to do to prove a point.

]]> angelika http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186839 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186839 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:26 -0800 Comment by elenchos Darn this housing market. Who wouldn't stab their ex 222 times with a screwdriver with home buyers so few and far between?

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186843 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186843 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:33:02 -0800 Comment by Chris @10: Seriously. Clearly she was completely sane but the housing market forced her into such an otherwise-avoidable situation, 222 times.

]]> Chris http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186858 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186858 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:39:55 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle The concept that gay couples are somehow immune from jealousy, fear, hatred, and paranoia is, quite frankly, not viable.

Some people are brought together in tough times, others driven apart.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186859 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186859 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:41:14 -0800 Comment by genevieve About Burger: "She recently stopped drinking coffee."

Maybe she shouldn't have given up the caffeine. Just sayin'...

]]> genevieve http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186860 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186860 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:41:22 -0800 Comment by Lavode Is it cynical to think that this will get trotted out for Prop 8 and Prop 2?

]]> Lavode http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186884 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186884 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:57:22 -0800 Comment by tomasyalba No indication they ever put their house up for sale. Bought it in 2000 for $189,500. Current assessor value $273K. Current on their property taxes. They had two mortgages, one for $25,000 and one for $131,500 for a total below both the purchase price and the assessed value. Both mortgages fully paid off according to recorded Satisfactions filed 11/05 and 1/06 respectively.

]]> tomasyalba http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186888 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186888 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:58:49 -0800 Comment by tomasyalba No indication they ever tried to sell their house, though. Public records show they bought it in 2000 for $189,500. Current assessor value $273K. Current on their property taxes. They had two mortgages, one for $25,000 and one for $131,500 for a total below both the purchase price and the assessed value. Both mortgages fully paid off according to recorded Satisfactions filed 11/05 and 1/06 respectively.

]]> tomasyalba http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186890 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186890 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:59:41 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball 222? Is this some kind of sick sacrifice to Karen Valentine?

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186912 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186912 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:20:20 -0800 Comment by bakerb If it's getting that bad, then for fucks sake crash on a friends sofa!
And nasty domestic events are inevitable in a a percentage of all long-term relationships, no matter who's in them.
Knowing some of the stuff done in hetero marriages, I can't say that the gay ones could be much worse.

]]> bakerb http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186919 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186919 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:25:29 -0800 Comment by Ugh No offense to the victim, of course, but how perhaps she couldn't afford to move out because she was busy buying high-end things like BMW Sedans. People spend all their money on frivolity then act shocked when the tides turn and they suddenly have nothing.

]]> Ugh http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186920 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186920 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:25:57 -0800 Comment by Ugh I also fail to see what this has to do with the housing market, other than Dan's lame attempt at a tenuous connection so he could link the story to the election. Desperate much? I know Dan, actually thinking about actual issues is hard.

]]> Ugh http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186931 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186931 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:31:02 -0800 Comment by Sargon Bighorn Of course they could have sold the house. They might have taken a lose, but that's capitalism here in the US of A. Of course one of the gals could have left the house altogether. Of course I know it's not easy to leave, but hell I would think it's easier than taking 222 stab wounds and hoping to survive. I might be wrong on that, hmmmm.

]]> Sargon Bighorn http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186967 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186967 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:02:52 -0800 Comment by josh barn bloggers is crazy, yo.

]]> josh barn http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186991 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1186991 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:16:39 -0800 Comment by inkweary This sounds pretty much like any murder/suicide with the slight exception of the 222 stab wounds. I wonder if she had OCD? Couldn't stop until she had the count right.

]]> inkweary http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1187067 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1187067 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:25:59 -0800 Comment by Brian IF ONLY I COULD SELL MY HOUSE! I WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO STAB YOU 222 TIMES WITH A SCREWDRIVER!

WOE IS ME!`

]]> Brian http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1187088 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1187088 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:47:31 -0800 Comment by RonK, Seattle @ 22 -- They don't call it the nutroots for nuthin'.

But it sounds like she was at least lucid enough not to stab her 222 times in the house?

]]> RonK, Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1187100 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/women_in_love_1#c1187100 Homo Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:55:49 -0800