Slog - Comments on The Brawl, the Documentary, and the Polls

Comment by Greg

Greg — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:15:34 -0800

The Keating 5 isn't just guilt by association; McCain was actively involved in trying to intimidate regulators, and could potentially have gone to prison for it. Unless by "association" you don't mean "he's friends with a guy who committed a crime" but instead "he's associated with his own past illegal actions."

Comment by cochise.

cochise. — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:22:23 -0800

mccain was only associated with Charles Keating? pfffff. that's a stetch.

Comment by N

Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:47:51 -0800

Great doc, but it needs to be cut down to 30 seconds and played in the key states to have any effect. As a website, it's mostly just preaching to the choir instead of targeting undecided voters.

Comment by whatevernevermind

whatevernevermind — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:48:22 -0800

It seems the Obama campaign was keeping the best for last all along, and that was a smart move as it will be fresh in voters' minds going into Nov. 4.

All McCain has against Obama are lies -- which everyone knows at this point -- but Obama has the truth against McCain -- and nobody's been talking about that until now.

It's a devastating strategy and it will, at worst, maintain the status quo: Obama wins.

But make sure you and everybody you know gets out on Election Day to make that happen!

Comment by Fnarf

Fnarf — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:48:57 -0800

I almost want to see McCain win now, just so he gets to own the economic freefall that's taking place, which is going to poison the next four years.

Comment by max solomon

max solomon — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:30:35 -0800

This isn't even close to comparable.

Cindy had money in Keating's S&L. McCain wisely keeps their money separated.

Comment by bookworm

bookworm — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:35:11 -0800

The thing about the McCain-Palin attacks are that they aren't winning anyone ever to their side. Obama supporters are solidly so, as are McCain supporters, while undecideds who are still weighing McCain at this point who might buy into this likely weren't going to vote for Obama anyway. I mean, if you don't think Obama is secretly a Muslim that hangs out with terrorists already, it's kind of hard to think you're suddenly going to start less than a month before the election, absent some massive smoking gun/October surprise. And this stuff just isn't it. On top of that, these aren't being said as statements in neutral spaces, but at McCain/Palin rallies, where Palin is basically preaching to the converted. Maybe if she had made these statements during the debate, or did so in more neutral spaces, they would actually impact independents. Of course, this does serve to energize the Republican base, but I think the Dems have a big potential turnout advantage (the result of massive grassroots voter registration efforts that are more substantial than the GOP's). Anyway, I just see this shit as desperate -- and that lots of folks will be turned off by it, as opposed to won over.

Comment by keshmeshi

keshmeshi — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:46:29 -0800

Obama better play it cool tomorrow. I have a feeling that McCain is going to do anything and everything to try to piss Obama off.

Comment by Banna

Banna — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:04:29 -0800

With McCain's famous temper, he needs to watch out for that trap himself.

Comment by Fnarf

Fnarf — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:19:35 -0800

Obama's even temper is his greatest asset. The electorate is largely tired of foot-stamping blowhards; unruffled and thoughtful competence is where it's at.

Comment by Will in Seattle

Will in Seattle — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:20:47 -0800

It's too bad people have already started voting, especially in the Western States that hate the Socialist Republicans so very very much.

Oops.

Happy October Surprise, Comrade McCain!