Slog - Comments on That One http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one Wow, I'm not sure I'm convinced that "That One" is a racist statement, but somebody sure is working fast:... Copyright 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:50:17 -0800 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:07:14 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by thickturd holy crap that's awesome. i so love the speed.

]]> thickturd http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168143 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168143 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:54:09 -0800 Comment by DoYouLikeFreedom Love it, the taking ownership.

2 comments though:
1. The "O" should be capitalized-- "Thatone", as one word, sounds like his has something to do with scientology

2. Any song ideas around this?
-Mary Tyler Moore theme--substitute "you girl" for "That One".
-"One" by U2, but "That One" for "One Heart" etc.
-Speaking of Heart, how about using a Heart song, since they dissed McCain for using their song? Hmmm.. "Barracuda" is 4 syllables, "That One" is only two, this will be a work in progress

]]> DoYouLikeFreedom http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168145 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168145 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:03:51 -0800 Comment by Sam ......as used in most families and offices - it is a term of dissent combined with scathing humor or even endearment ....

get a life

with the global great depression kicking in about the time Obama becomes president, and no one to blame, finger pointing will be stupid, this is going to be a rocky road

expect a run on the dollar sometime soon as all those trillions and trillions and trillions of floating international dollars sell to go to gold

expect states to go bankrupt quickly, as they have no cash reserves ... thousands of smaller cities and counties to follow

expect astonishing cut backs in ALL services provided by state, county and city, no money to pay for them, no new taxes possible

Iceland and Britan are in the process of nationalizing their banking systems - we should follow, not just loan banks money

forms of socialism are at our door, all you newly minted progressives, banking, health care, the collapse of the old style laissez faire economy has opened the door to radical change

get ready for years of economic turmoil in the western style capitalist democracies

in all the chaos, who will buy America for ten cents on the dollar? My guess is obvious, petrol rich purses old money that is secure

]]> Sam http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168147 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168147 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:55:59 -0800 Comment by Cato the Younger Younger I totally love it!!! Finally, we have a Democrat and a base in the party that is willing to take the fight to the Republican's. Sure wish Christine Gregiore would do that......

]]> Cato the Younger Younger http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168153 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168153 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:17:59 -0800 Comment by ghostlawns That's nothing. There's already an amazing remix video of the incident here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfssaAe6ir0

Seriously, everyone must check it out. It's hilarious.

This video was up on youtube less than 2 hours after the debate ended, Fast as fuck indeed.

]]> ghostlawns http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168154 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168154 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:30:16 -0800 Comment by Mari Fast indeed:
http://www.cafepress.com/lamianosv

]]> Mari http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168155 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168155 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:31:29 -0800 Comment by Bob Not exactly the proverbial Carvillian anvil is it, though?

Silly. Try to convince America that Obama is the grownup we want running the country not some aggrieved t-shirt slogan victim.

]]> Bob http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168157 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168157 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:01:08 -0800 Comment by Miss Poppy Dixon McCain's campaign has the scent of magnolia about it, and last night's comments and behavior didn't help.

]]> Miss Poppy Dixon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168160 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168160 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:21:52 -0800 Comment by Mr. Bob Dobalina Racist? Oh, please. My neighbors are an old nelly couple in their late '60s who affectionately refer to each other as, "That One." As in, "That One thinks happy hour starts at 4:30!" It goes without saying that they're the most fun neighbors on this dull street.

I'm not surprised some thin-skinned morons want to turn this into something black and white. Anyone who watched the first debate from the opening five minutes KNOWS these two do no like each other and it was simply a matter of McCain being too much of a snob to say Obama's name - an old man diss, if you will. But it has NOTHING to do with black/white, cry-wolfers.

]]> Mr. Bob Dobalina http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168161 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168161 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:22:02 -0800 Comment by Trevor It's not necessarily racist. But it is diminutive, which is the point. Was McCain going to refer to himself as "this one"? No, that would sound childish.

]]> Trevor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168162 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168162 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:33:38 -0800 Comment by Margaret L. "That one" may not be about race, but what it IS about is McCain's intense, childish, personal contempt for for Obama. Whether that contempt is about race, well, you decide.

]]> Margaret L. http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168163 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168163 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 06:41:29 -0800 Comment by Vince It's meant to be demeaning. McCain should now be called "That old one".

]]> Vince http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168171 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168171 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:10:53 -0800 Comment by W.T. Foxtrot I heard an echo of another old cantankerous rich white guy when he said that.

]]> W.T. Foxtrot http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168176 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168176 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:18:25 -0800 Comment by Jason Josephes So... "one" is now a racial slur? Am I missing something?

]]> Jason Josephes http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168188 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168188 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:40:12 -0800 Comment by Dubcek Not racist. McCain's using a Tina Fay line, that's how she refers to the terrible Amy Poehler.

]]> Dubcek http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168190 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168190 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:43:25 -0800 Comment by David You can be demeaning without being racist.

]]> David http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168192 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168192 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:57:54 -0800 Comment by josh come on people. gotham bold.

(ftr, not racist, just petty, dismissive, and maybe forgetful)

]]> josh http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168195 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168195 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:58:55 -0800 Comment by NaFun My friend Matt May got one up on Cafe Press last night as well:
http://www.cafepress.com/sanedesign.315052267

]]> NaFun http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168198 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168198 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:08:42 -0800 Comment by monkey He's been called worse. In fact basically called a terrorist by Palin.

"That one" doesn't bother me.

]]> monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168206 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168206 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:26:06 -0800 Comment by j Another version:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thermo-police/2922924123/

]]> j http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168210 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168210 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:29:05 -0800 Comment by elenchos "That one" is a phrase often heard in the 1920s or '30s, or in nursing homes. Kind of like saying "medical errors... as they call them." That's what they're called, grandpa. What do you call them?

Some old people pay attention to the change around them and some stay frozen in time.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168213 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168213 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:37:16 -0800 Comment by flamingbanjo Endlessly parsing every awkwardly-phrased word your opponent said trying to tease out some hidden bias seems more like a Hillary thing than an Obama thing.

]]> flamingbanjo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168215 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168215 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:41:16 -0800 Comment by arborheightist It was probably a brain fart - he couldn't remember what he was talking about.

"That one" is the singular form of "those people" or "you people."

]]> arborheightist http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168220 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168220 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:50:12 -0800 Comment by David http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/GOP_likes_that_one_too.html

Ben Smith reports that the GOP are going to try to turn "That One" into an anti-Obama meme:

"The most memorable line of the night belonged to John McCain. McCain pointed out that “That One” vote for the 05 energy bill. Look for Republicans to note in coming days that “That One” also voted for higher taxes at least 94 times; “That One” has associations with unrepentant terrorists, etc…"

]]> David http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168221 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168221 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 08:50:30 -0800 Comment by Jason Josephes "One" could have meant "candidate."

]]> Jason Josephes http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168240 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168240 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:10:22 -0800 Comment by Seajay What a wank. If this is the worst that the attack media can pull out on Mr McCain's performance, then I stand by my statement that he did a good job representing himself and his side.

]]> Seajay http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168245 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168245 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:14:07 -0800 Comment by Big Sven One more vote for "demeaning/dismissive/hostile", not "racist."

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168248 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168248 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:16:51 -0800 Comment by blue barberpole Sounded racist to me when I saw it live, and I was startled by it, but I'm white. I'd like to know how a black man feels about the remark.

]]> blue barberpole http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168256 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168256 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:23:39 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi Racist or not, it was fucking hilarious.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168264 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168264 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:29:57 -0800 Comment by David "McCain not a racist = victory" is about as low a standard for success as "Palin didn't poop her pants = victory".

]]> David http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168301 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168301 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:53:02 -0800 Comment by CM Racist or not, the point is that the comment OBJECTIFIED Obama.

McCain has made his disdain for Obama no secret (not looking at him, not referring to him by name); he looks as if he's pissed off that his POW status doesn't afford him instant access to the Oval Office. He has to campaign- and against a kid even!

By referring to Obama as 'that one,' he's referred to him as an object worthy of derision, not a candidate, not a person.

Where's Mudede?

]]> CM http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168316 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168316 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:03:42 -0800 Comment by the nerve @CM, #31 - TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!! Could not have said it better myself.

]]> the nerve http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168466 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168466 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:46:07 -0800 Comment by David In response to Bob Dobalina (#9), the example of your cute neighbors doesn't really fit. They love each other and use "That one" as a term of endearment. McCain doesn't love Obama. He can barely look at him. Try saying, "You suck!" to your best buddy when he drinks the last shot of whiskey. Now say it to your enemy, for whatever reason. Totally different, you know it.

]]> David http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168654 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/that_one#c1168654 2008 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:07:14 -0800