Savage Love Savage Love Letter of the Day
posted by October 17 at 16:34 PM
onA close friend of mine and I have, in the past, been fuck buddies. He’s Mormon and just got back from his 2 year mission in California (yep, he spent plenty of time working for Prop. 8). Anyway, he emailed me and we sort of chatted each other off. He asked me if I wanted to hook up a few days after he got home. I said sure and worked him into my pretty busy schedule.I haven’t gotten any lately because I’m working my ass off to get into grad school, so little things like shaving my pubes haven’t been on the top of my list. But I shaved. I feel like I put a little effort into this.
The day of our planned hook up, he emailed me saying that he had second thoughts and decided to just stay home and do some chores. I feel like he was messing with my head but I value his honesty. Now I don’t know how to respond or if I even should.
Missionary Reject
Hm. That you would even consider sleeping with a dude that just got back from working to pass Prop 8—let alone a Mormon dude (isn’t pre-marital sex as bad as tea?)—is kind of deal breaker for me, MR. So, sorry, no advice for you. Hope you itch when your pubes come back.
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Bo advice?
And why did he write this?
@2 Maybe I missed it, but what makes you think it's a he?
Also, the first thing a Mormon missionary generally wants to do after getting home is to get married, usually within 6 months.
I might have a little sympathy for him because he probably lives somewhere that has a small gay population...but to complain because he shaved his pubes and the guy didn't come over...pssht.
Welcome to the reality of casual sex, even with fuck buddies.
Did this come with a receipt for a No On Prop 8 donation?
Here's some advice: man up and out his ass.
@3
Girls don't work their asses off. Ever.
Dan, was it a guy or a girl who wrote that????
@3, Have you ever in your life heard a woman refer to her "pubes?"
Friends don't fuck friends who support Prop. 8. Man or woman, gay or straight, cut the motherfuckers off TODAY. No more sex for you, assholes.
you did right, dan. the writer is a principle-free organism, a shallow ass. no advice forrrr you--come back one year!
"No more sex for you, assholes" goes for those who support prop 102 in Arizona. Don't like extra-marital sex (gay or straight)? Don't have it!
p.s. I hope this loser's pubes grow back in-grown and result in a painful and embarassing skin infection. I am somewhat more vengeful than Dan.
@9 Uh, women refer to pubes all the time, and they are 99/100 the ones shaving their pubes/expected to shave them. Maybe you don't talk to enough females or something.
Also, I'd believe a closeted homo working for prop 8 but wouldn't that be noteworthy for the guy writing the letter? It's stuck in there pretty shamelessly. Hell, would a closeted homo who openly strikes against gay rights even be able to keep a long term gay fuck buddy? If so, damn.
@13 I totally agree with you. And @7 -- fuck off. Woman work their asses off all the time. And call it that too.
i'd seriously vote yes for prop 8 just to piss you off.
I think #7 was being sarcastic, it's been pretty well documented that females work more than males (not that guys are lazy just more laid back ime, I'm the same way) and Natalie is a female's name so I'm assuming she knows that. Or she's lazy as hell.
The letter is from a girl.
I don't believe u
"DTMFA" is the only response this letter deserved.
I'm with your advice Dan. I like but seriously. I think it's a little weird that she is getting worked up about a fuck buddy. I mean, that is SO totally against the rules.
Besides, you might as well be fucking around with a married man. He is SUPPOSED to be getting married in 6 months ... and I'm not sure his wife will ever find out he was not a virgin before he was wed. He might be trying to casually move on to the next stage of his hyprocritical life as quietly as possible.
This illustrates the proper use of bolding in a Slog post.
Please make a note of it.
My next guess is she's going into a scientific field ...
I boned a Morman chick once. She could suck a basketball through a garden hose. The uber-religious very often can bring it in the sack.
Her pubes were a bit too thick, though.
"(isn’t pre-marital sex as bad as tea?)"
In fact, it's way worse. "unchaste" sexual activity is second only to murder as a sin in the church's eyes. I've straight up had that drilled into my head. Sexual Sin is second only to murder. Including whacking off.
I left the church for numerous and mostly obvious reasons.
Former-Mormon-Steve
I was under the impression sex was a sin worse than murder for the religious.
Here's what's really going on...from a former Mormon missionary myself...
This guy was your fuck-buddy prior to his mission. But, then, he got religion, and went into the deep end during his mission. So, he's buried that part of himself from any public display. He would never, for example, talk about sex with any of the mormon girls he's dating. He saves that for...
...you. The former playmate that he keeps locked in the closets of his memories. He fucks you over and over again in his head. And, then, when it gets to be too much, he flirts with the idea of doing it again. So, he calls you, flirts, pretends, even goes so far as setting up a date. But, he'll never follow through now. Never.
His self identity, for now, is way too tied into his religious view and his communal and self-approval requires him to be able to tell his Bishop that he doesn't have sex. So, he plays at having sex. Fantasizes about it. Will go so far as to plan it. But, follow through? Not likely. You're now his toy, but not to be played with in actuality, only in fantasy.
Unless and until, one day, he does follow through. But, that will likely be worse for you. As soon as he reaches orgasm, his guilt will overpower him, and he'll leave you, and blame you for tempting him into evil.
Not worth the effort. Don't play his game.
@13 Yeah, I kinda realized how stupid that sounded shortly after posting it. I guess this is a good example of what happens when you assume.
She should still out him to the rest of the god botherers as a fornicator.
Dan,
Life is complicated. And you are tedious.
Cheers,
Quintus
Been there, done that, will probably do it again. Mormon boys too often have lots of issues, but are almost always hot and usually very sweet.
I've never been a Mormon missionary, but I agree with @26, Timothy. That's exactly what I assumed when I read her letter. (And of course MR is a girl. How often do boys shave their pubes for a date???)
MR, if it makes you feel any better, right now he is wracked with guilt. Not for standing you up, but for making the date in the first place. Still, he is wracked with guilt.
Every fuck buddy I've ever had in the end has been into mind games, even though that's against the rules. I don't bother with men for this purpose anymore, just use a vibrator when i want an NSA orgasm, since men make it not worth the trouble. But if you want to strive for some semblance of common decency from your fuck buddys, refuse to meet up with this guy anymore. Find another one. You're a girl so its not hard. If he too pulls any mind game bullshit, drop him and its on to the next one. Repeat as necessary until you find someone who knows how to be an adult.
@26
that pretty much covers it (and is more advice than this writer deserved), but you forgot to mention that *if* he allows himself to fuck her, or if the guilt of phone jack-offs overwhelms him, he could hear the voice of god revealing to him that she has to be murdered because she's interfering with the Lord's Work. and i really, really wish i was kidding about that.
that church - like so many others (think ann boleyn and the catholic church), but this one is especially adept at it somehow - bottles up sexual energy until it reaches explosive levels. think in childhood how harder it was not to laugh at something when you knew you weren't supposed to, or when you were supposed to be silent. now multiply that feeling by a lifetime, and you're about 1/10th of the way there.
this is how you wind up with fanatical lunatics who prefer to hear a revelation from god that you should be killed for tempting them, for interfering with the lord's work, or for whatever their hormone-deranged states work them up into, than to admit that the church leaders are fucking with them for their own ends. that fuck buddy will never blame the church, only you. and there is a sordid history of women being murdered for interfering with the wishes of men in the church.
not all sexually repressed saints go that far, but enough of them do that it's not worth playing the game, as timothy said. stay away from this dude.
I second #12- vote no on prop. 102 in Arizona. People who are threatened by gay people getting married are really fucking pathetic. I hope Missionary Reject has a throbbing line of red bumps and her fuck buddy has a bad case of blue balls.
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