Slog - Comments on Pallin' Around With Scarerrorists http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists Hanging out with the crowd at a Palin rally...... Copyright 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:34:42 -0800 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:25:36 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Matt WOW!

]]> Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168985 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168985 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:44:43 -0800 Comment by Al Scary, scary people. You can see why they would support Palin/McCain -- they speak the same language. Not much in the way of cogent sentences and little reliance on fact.

They deserve who they're voting for. But let's give them better than they deserve.

]]> Al http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168986 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168986 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:48:15 -0800 Comment by The CHZA people are not this dumb in metro areas, I swear

]]> The CHZA http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168988 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168988 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:50:03 -0800 Comment by BenJ Yikes!

]]> BenJ http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168989 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168989 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:50:07 -0800 Comment by Jeremy from Seattle Blind idiots.

]]> Jeremy from Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168992 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168992 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:51:28 -0800 Comment by happy renter I can appreciate what this guy is trying to do, but I think he could have made his point better by staying objective rather than being a dick to some of these people.

]]> happy renter http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168994 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168994 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:54:37 -0800 Comment by Lloyd Clydesdale Speaking from a whitey point of view, I can say that McCain's and Palin's attempts to break this shit down along racial lines is not going to work. The scared whitey mob that they're trying to mobilize will be as tolerated as Palin's gays, thank you very much.

]]> Lloyd Clydesdale http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168995 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168995 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:00:01 -0800 Comment by heywhatsit @6 He got these folks outside of a rally. I think the point was to grab the emotion of the people coming out of the rally. I think it was fair enough.

]]> heywhatsit http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168999 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1168999 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:01:54 -0800 Comment by sw @6

Agreed. If this video is for an exclusively Obama-supporting audience, then it's great, four minutes of head-nodding agreement.

But anyone else is going to dismiss it out of hand because dude makes it easy to do so. Watching people argue with a guy asking them loaded questions is basically campaign porn.

]]> sw http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169000 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169000 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:02:39 -0800 Comment by elenchos The old stick-a-camera-in-the-idiot's-face trick. When they do this at rallies of people you like, you take offense.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169003 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169003 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:08:58 -0800 Comment by Jessica O hai, crazy eyes! I feel like that lady goes home and beats her kids when they say something she doesn't agree with, like "the earth is billions of years old" or "you should really not do all that meth". How the fuck could she hear of Sarah Palin three years ago when Palin was a mayor of a tiny town in Alaska? Was this lady involved in Alaskan politics?

It's too early to deal with her. Hope McCain and Palin are happy with these clowns!

]]> Jessica http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169004 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169004 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:10:08 -0800 Comment by Christin Oh, THAT's who's been buying all the Ann Coulter books!

]]> Christin http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169011 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169011 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:19:04 -0800 Comment by douglas i've never understood why people lie to themselves like that. it's bizarre.

]]> douglas http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169013 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169013 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:23:58 -0800 Comment by Balt-O-Matt @3--But Strongsville IS part of a metro area--the Cleveland metro area.

Outside of the stupidity of the people, the one thing I can't stand is their godawful AFLAC-duck accent. Jesus.

]]> Balt-O-Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169014 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169014 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:24:06 -0800 Comment by John Bailo
That town has a lot of attractive people.

Maybe I'll move...got an address?

]]> John Bailo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169015 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169015 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:24:22 -0800 Comment by Suze JEEBUS Christmas... I almost lost my Wheaties over that one. Why oh why don't we have a test for voter registration? "List the three branches of government", "Name the last four presidents", "Which countries border the U.S.?" "Name one country on each continent", "Name one media source you trust and access regularly", "Who is your city's mayor?" Just basic political literacy...

]]> Suze http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169020 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169020 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:37:19 -0800 Comment by Hernandez God, I'm so fucking fed up with these people. The American genepool is pretty watered down these days.

As much as I want to lash out at McCain/Palin for all their bullshit lies and scaremongering, I have to remember that, without idiots like these, there would be no McCain/Palin. Or George W. Bush, for that matter.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169022 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169022 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:38:42 -0800 Comment by Ofelia I. am. so. scared.

]]> Ofelia http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169023 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169023 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:39:47 -0800 Comment by AJ @10: Wahhhhhhhhh.

]]> AJ http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169024 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169024 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:40:32 -0800 Comment by Christy O I don't understand this guy's premise. Is his point: you heard of Obama before you heard of Palin; therefore you know Obama better? That's stupid. Stupid people aruguing stupidly with a stupid premise.

]]> Christy O http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169032 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169032 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:57:55 -0800 Comment by COMTE @20:

His point seems to be more along the lines of: "you-all claim Obama is a terrorist. But, you know even LESS about Palin, who's only been on the national scene for a few weeks, yet you trust her infinitely MORE, despite knowing next to nothing about her", which is I believe, a completely legitimate assertion to present to these people.

And given the complete flummox of their responses, I think it's rather telling. "Just look at his blood-line"? I mean, seriously, the only way that lady could have been more blatantly racist would have been if she'd just flat-out called him "a towel-headded Islamo-fascist n****r".

And THESE people comprise nearly one-half the population of this country.

]]> COMTE http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169038 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169038 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:10:31 -0800 Comment by AK Fascinating

]]> AK http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169045 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169045 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:14:07 -0800 Comment by Sir Learnsalot @20

I think he had a good rhetorical point there. The most common "problem" people have with Obama is that they are unfamiliar with him and with his plans even though he's been a part of the national scene for years. Palin on the other hand has not been granting interviews and she has basically no experience or exposure on the national stage.

]]> Sir Learnsalot http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169048 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169048 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:16:19 -0800 Comment by Karlheinz Arschbomber It isn't called Flyover Country for nothing.

I'll flush twice next time I'm in the area at 35,000 feet.

Why don't these fuckers just all wear brown shirts?

]]> Karlheinz Arschbomber http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169057 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169057 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:20:45 -0800 Comment by Sam I was actually disappointed in this video, as it was based simply on trying to convince people that Barack Obama is more "well-known" than Sarah Palin.

It was obvious that 80-90% of the people in this video get all their information from Fox News. What was the last time Obama was interviewed on Fox News? That would explain why they feel they haven't heard anything about him.

Admittedly, any interview he had on there would be biased, but at least then they couldn't say that they were unfamiliar with him.

Also, that one lady was too aggressive to keep the camera on. The minute she started getting in his face, he should have walked to another area and interviewed someone else.

]]> Sam http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169060 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169060 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:21:51 -0800 Comment by really getting nervous You know, I want Obama to win for the sake of your country and the world. I really truly do. But if McCain and Palin get in, the United States will deserve whatever happens as a result.

]]> really getting nervous http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169063 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169063 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:23:55 -0800 Comment by Lloyd Cooney Cuntry first!

]]> Lloyd Cooney http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169069 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169069 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:27:27 -0800 Comment by Sam Also folks, like I said on youtube, calling people racist and stupid for their misinformed opinions doesn't solve the problem.

True, it's appalling to listen to some of the stuff coming out of their mouths, but if we don't remain in the position of the "better" man, woman, or non-specific gender noun, we can't consider ourselves any more righteous than we consider them to be.

Choose to inform. With facts. Even if they have to be sifted out and highlighted from Fox News stories (they do post snippets of the truth here and there before they start biasing it). If we instead choose to sit back and call our opponents "stupid," we continue the Bush policy of polarization which only hurts our country.

]]> Sam http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169086 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169086 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:38:28 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi @21,

No, they're more like a third, i.e. the only people who are still giving Bush approval ratings.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169091 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169091 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:43:19 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Bush is WAY below a third these days. More like a fifth. Lower than Nixon.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169124 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169124 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:07:46 -0800 Comment by crazycatguy I have never seen so many scared people. If they ever get control of the country I'm leaving.

]]> crazycatguy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169136 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169136 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:17:29 -0800 Comment by Hernandez @28 I don't see what's wrong with idenitifying these people as stupid or ignorant, because they willfully ignore facts and willfully believe lies. That's the definition of stupid and ignorant.

I don't believe for a second that these people are just helplessly mis-informed, as you infer. The lies about Obama being a "terrorist" have been thoroughly and completely debunked in all corners of our society and culture. At this point, the people who cling to that lie are not mis-informed, they are willfully ignorant.

We ARE better than they are, because we seek out and accept the truth, and we have every right to make that assertion. It is an objective standard. I'm not sitting back and calling them stupid, I'm standing up and calling them out for their stupidity.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169140 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169140 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:20:55 -0800 Comment by Ren Wow! Yikes! Polar bear shit! No wonder Rove chose Palin. He knew his audience.

]]> Ren http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169159 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169159 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:35:43 -0800 Comment by inkweary Arrogant ignorance and overt racism.

]]> inkweary http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169179 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169179 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:50:01 -0800 Comment by Ayden/VA If Obama is assasinated, are there charges that can be filed against Palin and the McCains?

Like for urging on his murderers?

Sorry - but that's my first thought when I see such ignorant hatred... I was holding my breath all through that 'Town Hall' debate.

Hoping O has the BEST secret service protectors in the world.

]]> Ayden/VA http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169216 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169216 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:04:29 -0800 Comment by scotlanded Oh god, they're only two hours away from me. I'm terrified.

]]> scotlanded http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169259 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169259 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:23:35 -0800 Comment by trufe @32- maybe they aren't willfully ignoring both sides of the story. Perhaps they just don't think that there is another side. My friends/family motivated me a while ago to research all sides of a political situation, but that's only because they were told to by others. In that way, these people's friends/family are ignorant to begin with, so the buck stops here, so to speak. Sad.

]]> trufe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169280 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169280 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:39:44 -0800 Comment by gk

Where are the white hoods and capes?

]]> gk http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169286 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169286 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:43:35 -0800 Comment by Seajay Almost all attendees at rallies--certainly conservative ones--are aware that there are people looking for 'gotcha grabs' to make videos like this one. They know loaded questions are coming. Some of them just ignore them, some answer them sincerely, and some have fun giving baiting answers calculated to scare the socks off liberal/progressive viewers. I've done that once or twice myself.

A shout-out to number 28, though one could think of other names in place of "Bush" quite easily.

]]> Seajay http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169358 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/pallin_around_with_scarerrorists#c1169358 2008 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:25:36 -0800