I challenge anyone who's on the fence or who usually votes Democrat but is considering voting for McCain/Palin to read "The Nine" by Jeffrey Toobin, and see how comfortable you are with the prospect of a McCain/Palin-nominated court.

Idiot.

Me too. In fact, I blame everything on the Mormons.

My grandmother liked that whiny guy from Will and Grace. What's he up to?

You'd disagree with SP, show her some fun and expand her horizons.

This toady just bows down and worships at her feet.

Hmmm - maybe there's more to this...

All that makes him pretty much the antithesis of the typical SLOG poster, so I don't imagine he'll fare well here.

They're loud, they usually know absolutely nothing about what they are talking about, and they live for an audience. They're bad enough when sober, but when drunk - look out.

There's straight men like this of course, but they usually resort to violence. These guys just spout off and annoy everyone around them, but are essentially harmless. A screaming match is about as violent as they get, followed by an after-hours phone call where they sob out an apology for their behavior.

At least he's loyal. And who knows: Take away all the crazy religiosity and pathetic aspirations to power, and Sarah might be a great fag hag (or whatever we're calling them these days)

At least *that* would account for a series of opinions for which the only other explanations are mind-numbing apathy, outright hypocrisy, or blatant stupidity.

and by the way, when did it become okay to separate your personal life from your politics? how does that NOT indicate a lack of integrity? that, my gay friend, is the HEIGHT of hypocrisy. if she is truly the nice, caring, passionate person that SPGF claims, then how can she legislate intolerance and unequal treatment? who cares if she doesn't explicitly say anything bad about "gays, blacks, anybody" when she now has the power to simply legislate them into lower castes of society?

and finally, one last thing- so everything Palin does wrong, inconsiderately, bigotedly or purely for political reasons- it's someone else's fault? it's the democrats fault she's a habitual liar? it's the mormons' fault theres anti-gay legislation passing in Alaska that she explicitly supports? who's fault is it she doesn't believe in global warming- asians? good. fucking. god. stay in Alaska, SPGF, and i seriously can't wait for this country to hurl your bigoted friend back there come November.

Good work dude, just hold on and wait until the part of her that would condemn you to Hell gets a little more power. Oh, wait, SHE won't do it, but her god will because she won't judge you... Sure.

She doesn't think your relationships are valid. She doesn't think you're suited to raise children. She doesn't think your partner should be covered by your insurance, etc.

She doesn't HAVE to condemn you, because she can make it impossible for you to live a normal life with the same rights as everyone else. Who needs to call you a fag and scoff at you when they can force you to live as a second class citizen?

Actions speak louder than words, and her actions scream something along the lines of 'fuck off and, burn in hell forever, faggot.' It doesn't matter if she 'tolerates' you and refuses to 'judge.'

*Sputters*
Funny how when Palin was talking to Katie Couric about her pro-life stance, she kept saying "I believe". But those aren't her beliefs, right?

This reminds me of the argument I had with a guy in high school who was convinced that water was blue, and that's why the sky was blue. They can be blind as fuck and you can't convince them otherwise.

But, I don’t know, I am neither gay nor black, but I just can’t help thinking, would this guy think that Sarah was just peachy if she had endorsed an amendment to Alaska’s constitution banning inter-racial marriage (would it still have been okay to blame it on the Mormons)? Or if she didn’t like black people, personally, but she “kept her politics separate from her beliefs” and never initiated any policy proceedings against them?

It just kind of squicks me out that his argument is basically, well, you know, a lot of people hate the gays so, it’s okay for me to vote for someone who is anti-gay.

"We have to make friends with as many of these people as we can. It’s the only way we’ll ever make any true progress…."

It's the same incrementalist crap all about waiting your turn for equality and working within the system to achieve tolerance.

It's bullshit no matter who says it. It sounds just as idiotic coming from the mouths of Log Cabin Republicans or Democrats (straight allies or gay sycophants).

And the last paragraph makes total sense to me. Gay-people-as-angry-abstractions will never convince Palin and Company. However, I've watched my friends' homophobic parents soften their views based on actually meeting /befriending/working with a friendly, competent, normal queer person for the first time. SPGF is being there as a friend, holding Trig and shooing off drunks, demonstrating his own good nature and humanity and putting a very normal face to The Gay Agenda for Sarah. If Sarah Palin comes around, it will be because of SPGF and those like him--not because of petitions and rallies and angry letters, which will roll off her like water off a duck's back.

I'd like to hear SPGF respond to the comments on this post.

I love you, but I think someone is putting one over on you. In an interview, Palin refers to her "gay friend" as a woman. It's posted on Box Turtle.

Those are all great reasons to be openly gay and befriend people who have bigoted views of gays. BUT, those are never good reasons to vote those bigots into positions of power or encourage other people to do so.

The whole thing feels bogus.

True. Very very true.

*titter*

Real estate prices would drop like a rock, my commute would be cut by 9/10ths, and the air would be crystal clear all year-round.

I appreciate this particular fool's absence, at any rate.

I would like to know why SPGF thinks Sarah Palin is qualified to be VP. Would he really feel safe with her a heartbeat away from the presidency?

Oh, and that last "we've all got to get along" stuff sounds strangely familiar. Oh yeah, it sort of sounds like what Barack Obama's been saying.

"I don’t mean from a policy perspective, I mean from a snapshot perspective."

"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard"

Also reminds me of the old saying "If you think our representatives are stupid you should see some of their constituents."

And don't write this off as anti-identity politics. Palin doesn't believe in rights or dignity for *anyone* who's not rich, white and male (with herself a special exception - two out of three not being bad and all :-)

A person who separates their politics from their beliefs is a hack, among other things.

It's sad that this guy (assuming he isn't a complete fabrication) buys into the "liberal elite" canard as well. This guy is in serious denial.

none.

you might have acquantances you're friendly with, of childhood friends that became gay, but 'best friends'?

No wonder people are nervous. Just as Mrs Palin's popularity proves that liberals don't own the women's vote, so this person proves that they don't necessarily own gays either.

You guys--you know who you are--you'd breathe a sigh of relief if he turned out to be a paid shill, wouldn't you? Be honest.

why would he vote for someone who fights to take his benefits away?

this dude is crazy!

#' 17, 26, 51 THANK YOU

The rest of you reactionaries in the cloth of progressives, run off the cliff, together, it is more fun that way.

Please Dan - tell us that you made up this interview, that there really isn't someone in Alaska(or anywhere else) who is that out of touch with reality.

Oh wait...clearly Palin herself is.

Never mind.

Thank the gods this dufus is up in the wilderness of Alaska.

Before you go talking about Sarah Palin's popularity with women, I think you really should check the figures. Women are supporting Obama-Biden over McCain-Palin by double-digits: 55% to 37%. Palin is popular with men, not with women. Do your math.