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Thursday, October 2, 2008

Liveblogging & Feminist Critiquing the VP Debate: Erica C. Barnett, Bethany Jean Clement, Jen Graves, Lindy West, and Eli Sanders

posted by on October 2 at 17:00 PM

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omg palin on cbs! omg omg omg. listen to her answers: "who is your favorite vp in history?" no answer! oh my fucking god! "best and worst things about cheney?": hunting accident. HAHAHAHAH! you are so fucking cute Sarah Palin!

Posted by mnm | October 2, 2008 5:47 PM
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OMG, the liveslog died.

Posted by Reverse Polarity | October 2, 2008 6:04 PM
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liveblog fail

Posted by brian | October 2, 2008 6:04 PM
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BRING UP THE SECONDARY REACTORS I NEED MY SOCIAL VALIDATION

Posted by The CHZA | October 2, 2008 6:04 PM
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yes the liveslog is well and truly dead...sigh

Posted by stephen_lee | October 2, 2008 6:04 PM
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I'm chugging a beer every time I hear the word "Scranton". Liveslog seems hacked.

Posted by DRINK!! | October 2, 2008 6:05 PM
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Died on me too, just as I submitted a question. :(

Posted by Cindy | October 2, 2008 6:05 PM
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Well, at least it wasn't just me.

Posted by ica | October 2, 2008 6:05 PM
9

Cue the Price is Right trumpets! *wah wah wah waaaaaaahhhhhhh*.

Posted by Banna | October 2, 2008 6:06 PM
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Oh God, I'm just not sure I'm going to be able to listen to her talk for 90 minutes. Come back to me, LiveSlog! Help me through this!

Posted by Hernandez | October 2, 2008 6:06 PM
11

Hands are on deck to revive the liveSlog.

Posted by Dominic Holden | October 2, 2008 6:06 PM
12

Alright, three minutes in and already she has blown a kiss, referenced a kid's soccer game, and said something like "you betcha".

Posted by Julie in Chicago | October 2, 2008 6:07 PM
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ok. she's doing a good job of looking at the camera.

but her diction is rather annoying.

Posted by apres_moi | October 2, 2008 6:07 PM
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Oh god, she's actually pulling new/different/maverick... good grief, jump on this shit Biden...

Posted by The CHZA | October 2, 2008 6:09 PM
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She is doing better than I thought she would do....and her folksy fakery works with a lot of voters

Posted by Andrew | October 2, 2008 6:10 PM
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Nice highlights, Palin. Who does your foils? (I'm not being sexist, just a fag.)

Posted by Dominic Holden | October 2, 2008 6:10 PM
17

Did she just say "team of mavericks"?

Posted by Dave | October 2, 2008 6:10 PM
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Okay, I just got kicked out because "this event is currently at capacity". Must... mock.... Palin... Please fix!

Posted by Julie in Chicago | October 2, 2008 6:10 PM
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OMG, Liveslog at capacity?!?!?! I have a full bottle of champagne, four pages of Palin Bingo, and a desire to snark, dammit!

Posted by Jessica | October 2, 2008 6:10 PM
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This is fluffy-ass shit...

Posted by The CHZA | October 2, 2008 6:11 PM
21

Aaaaaaaa, I can't do this without LiveSlog.

Posted by PopTart | October 2, 2008 6:11 PM
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at capacity! nooooooo!

Posted by threnody | October 2, 2008 6:13 PM
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"get down and get to business"

"darn right"

it's annoying me that Biden's not looking at the camera like Obama was doing so last week.


Posted by apres_moi | October 2, 2008 6:13 PM
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Darn right!

AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Posted by Al | October 2, 2008 6:13 PM
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This is the time we need you most, Slog! I'm full of snark and have nowhere for it to go.

Posted by Emmet | October 2, 2008 6:14 PM
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someone said that she winked at the camera.

stupid me for reading liveblog and missing it.

Posted by Simon | October 2, 2008 6:14 PM
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Oh man, the event is at capacity. I shouldn't have told so many people how fun it was here last week. Sigh.

Posted by beatgrl | October 2, 2008 6:15 PM
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You all may want to dial 9 - 1, then be ready to dial the last 1 before you die from alcohol poisoning.

Posted by Original Andrew | October 2, 2008 6:17 PM
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Governor, you are no Jackie Kennedy

Posted by Mahtli69 | October 2, 2008 6:17 PM
30

So okay, Biden's doing good...

But he has such CREEPY EYES!

Posted by Dominic Holden | October 2, 2008 6:18 PM
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let me in!!

Posted by ebon | October 2, 2008 6:18 PM
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I am bereaved. This is not the LiveSlog I thought I knew.

Posted by PopTart | October 2, 2008 6:18 PM
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@ The Conservative Party

These people aren't even listening to Biden. The entire room yells "liar" every time he opens his mouth about taxes, which is, of course, everybody's only in this room.

No matter what fact is stated against McCain and Palin, the room sides with Palin. Cheers for Palin when she's finished, boos for Biden before he finishes. This is what you need to be remembering. This is how they think. This. Is. Scary.

Posted by Mr. Poe | October 2, 2008 6:19 PM
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it's not the same, i know, but there's another live blog to be found here:
http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10600503?source=most_viewed

Posted by stephen_lee | October 2, 2008 6:20 PM
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And the whole room JUST SCREAMED when he FUCKED UP Barack with McCain in that comment. God.

Posted by Mr. Poe | October 2, 2008 6:21 PM
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Is anyone in the live slog right now, or have we all been excluded? (OOoh, Biden got the first soundbite dig.)

Posted by Cindy | October 2, 2008 6:21 PM
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"Ultimate Bridge to Nowhere". That's pretty good, Joey B.

Posted by Julie in Chicago | October 2, 2008 6:21 PM
38

Biden recovered like he always does, his hit back on healthcare was fucking gold.

Posted by The CHZA | October 2, 2008 6:21 PM
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I feel like the dude outside the party who wasn't let in.
This is stupid!

Posted by Chciago | October 2, 2008 6:21 PM
40

Okay, now Biden's worrying me. He's got that bossy, know-it-all tone while Palin smiles.

Posted by Dominic Holden | October 2, 2008 6:21 PM
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But, Mr. Poe, don't you think the same sort of thing is happening for the other side at places where the Democrats are gathered? It seems like I remember from LiveSlog last week that people were commenting on the jeers and cheers from the Democrats.

Posted by PopTart | October 2, 2008 6:21 PM
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I'm just glad Palin pushed her hair out of her eyes because it was totally distracting watching her blink and have that hair jump around.

Posted by PopTart | October 2, 2008 6:24 PM
43

i was on live slog but safari crashed on me.

Posted by Simon | October 2, 2008 6:24 PM
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@stephen_lee — That one's at capacity, too. I bet it has something to do with the credit crisis.

Frickin' liveblog investors.

Posted by Emmet | October 2, 2008 6:24 PM
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Uhhh... how's about adding a little capacity, guys?

Posted by mkyorai | October 2, 2008 6:24 PM
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She sounds like the mom on the sidelines at her kid's soccer game who's lecturing the other moms while they all roll their eyes-- lots of talking about herself, and no addressing of the issues at all while slicing someone she doesn't like to pieces.

Posted by Jessica | October 2, 2008 6:25 PM
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Live Slog widget isn't working for me.

She's totally just repeating memorized talking points. She hasn't got anything. The folksy smarm makes me want to commit violence.

Posted by Reverse Polarity | October 2, 2008 6:26 PM
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Biden just said he wants to do for America what Palin did for AK. Not good.

Posted by Big Sven | October 2, 2008 6:26 PM
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Looks like the LiveSlog needs a bailout

Posted by meh | October 2, 2008 6:27 PM
50

Biden has great teeth.

Posted by La | October 2, 2008 6:27 PM
51

stephen....the other live chat is also @ capacity

Posted by Cindy | October 2, 2008 6:28 PM
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No, no Biden don't paraphrase, don't go down that path. Oh, too late, there he goes.

Posted by PopTart | October 2, 2008 6:29 PM
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It's not Slog's fault, sadly. My sources tell me CoverItLive is having issues everywhere. Man, these guys have one thing to get right: liveblogs. Yet, they manage to screw it up.

Sound familiar?

Posted by Emmet | October 2, 2008 6:29 PM
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"Toxic problem on Main Street that's affecting Wall Street"

Summed up the hard right republican stance quite well, didn't she?

Those damn minority borrowers ruined the entire economy, don cha know?

Posted by Jonathan Golob | October 2, 2008 6:29 PM
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Tech-wise, is the LiveSlog thing going to be fixed? Or should I stop refreshing every couple of minutes to see if the series of tubes will let me in?

Posted by Julie in Chicago | October 2, 2008 6:29 PM
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this is liveslog. just hit the reload button ;)

Posted by Simon | October 2, 2008 6:29 PM
57

I just got kick from liveslog. "At capacity try again in a few minutes".

Posted by spacheese | October 2, 2008 6:30 PM
58

Why the hell can't she stay on topic?

Posted by McBastard | October 2, 2008 6:30 PM
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Compare how many specifics Biden uses versus Palin. Palin can't memorize what Biden knows through practice. She only has generalities and catchphrases.

Posted by The CHZA | October 2, 2008 6:30 PM
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When she raises her voice into an almost squeak it makes me want to disembowel myself.

Posted by Big Sven | October 2, 2008 6:30 PM
61

Okay, where's the full replay, I want to watch this again and again. She's all over the place.

Posted by Brooks | October 2, 2008 6:31 PM
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How can you not want to acknowledge manmade effects on the earth and want to fix it at the same time? It's fucking impossible! WTF does that mean!

Posted by The CHZA | October 2, 2008 6:32 PM
63

This debate is a tie so far (even though Palin is totally wrong on everything).

That means Palin is, in effect, kicking his ass.

Posted by Ryan | October 2, 2008 6:32 PM
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She's a mess! This is fun. I bet her palms are real sweaty.

Posted by E. | October 2, 2008 6:32 PM
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Yay, I'm in! Not sure if it was fixed for everyone, though...

Posted by Julie in Chicago | October 2, 2008 6:33 PM
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"John McCain's a great man but" and "Barack Obama and I want to do what Governor Palin has done..." Wow.

Posted by threnody | October 2, 2008 6:33 PM
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@58 If only there was a way to force her back on topic - I dunno if most viewers are noticing that she isn't answering most the questions. When interviewers point that out to her, that's when she does her "moose in the headlights" look. precious.

Posted by CindyB | October 2, 2008 6:33 PM
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Her answer about climate change was a virtual barrage of nonsense.

Posted by Reverse Polarity | October 2, 2008 6:33 PM
69

before we build more nuke power plants can someone clean up Hanford first.

Posted by Simon | October 2, 2008 6:34 PM
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@41

No. Because we know what our country actually thinks. The real dirt. Down to the bone. We know that we can still lose. Being in this room, right now, with all of these fucking people, is freaking me out. Because we all already thought that we had this years ago. We didn't. And here I am, seeing these, literally, "All American" people, completely ignoring everything that's being said. "Tens of thousands of jobs" -Palin (*Claps*). This is insane. They have no care of what is being discussed. It's their side and their side only. They have literally no fear of losing office. It feels, to me, that this entire room believes they've already sealed the deal.

On our hand, or at least mine, I'm watching Palin, listening to Palin, thinking about not how retarded she is, because she isn't being retarded right now. She's saying everything she needs to be saying right now to get those Bush voters in her hands. It's freaky. I can't even be comical about this now that the debate has started.

And holy shit. It never stops. "Hundreds of trillions."-Palin. (*Yeah!*)

Posted by Mr. Poe | October 2, 2008 6:35 PM
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nucular!

Posted by threnody | October 2, 2008 6:35 PM
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Senator Oshit

Posted by Doh | October 2, 2008 6:35 PM
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Aren't we "addicted to oil"/ She's talking about Alaska's oil like a pusher.

Posted by Lloyd Clydesdale | October 2, 2008 6:36 PM
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She said "Senator Obiden". Damn.

Posted by Doh | October 2, 2008 6:38 PM
75

Biden just said they support couples in a "same sex marriage" having equal benefits!

He said it!!

Posted by amy! | October 2, 2008 6:39 PM
76

Is there a crazy lag on this?

Posted by Dawgson | October 2, 2008 6:40 PM
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@71 Agree... Palin's performance so far is exactly the kind of thing that Bush voters will go for. It shows the weakness of this debate format: Katie Couric made Palin look retarded because she was able to press for details; in this debate, the vague feel-good things that Palin says are allowed to stand unchallenged.

Barf.

Posted by meh | October 2, 2008 6:40 PM
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It should be noted: There was no clap response to Palin saying she doesn't agree with gay marriage.

Posted by Mr. Poe | October 2, 2008 6:42 PM
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She is absolutely kicking his ass.

Posted by Ryan | October 2, 2008 6:44 PM
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i REALLY wish biden would ask her a direct follow up question afer she's spewed one of her rehearsed answers. I'm sure she would completely freeze. Not part of the debate format, I know, but it would be very effective.

Posted by brian | October 2, 2008 6:46 PM
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nucular? i hate her. She can't answer questions, she has to look at her notes and she can only talk about what she has written.

Posted by Willow Mooseknuckle | October 2, 2008 6:49 PM
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Ah, good.. now she's looking like an idiot. Or a parrot, repeating things without understanding them. How many times did she just say Iran shouldn't get "nucular" weapons?

Posted by meh | October 2, 2008 6:50 PM
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I'd like to really quickly read this talking point that I was told to say.

Posted by Willow Mooseknuckle | October 2, 2008 6:58 PM
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[@ the Conservative Party & Fuck Capacity & shitty WiFi connections]

Palin is winning. Non-stop. She could pull out a bloody tampon like L7 and she'd still be winning here. In this room. Just an FYI. Word.

Posted by Mr. Poe | October 2, 2008 7:03 PM
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Who taught this woman to pronounce the names of world leaders? I'm willing to bet it was the same dude who tutored Bush. Kim Jon Hill?

Posted by snark | October 2, 2008 7:04 PM
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I mean... Is it shocking the Conservatives love her? I think they've given up on thinking an dlistening.

Posted by Dawgson | October 2, 2008 7:05 PM
87

Not all comments are posted! WTF!

Posted by Sargon Bighorn | October 2, 2008 7:06 PM
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MCCAIN KNOWS HOW TO WIN A WAR?! WHAT?! VIETNAM?! WHAT THE FUCK?!

OH MY FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.

Posted by Mr. Poe | October 2, 2008 7:07 PM
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Right here:

Biden: "Governor, you just said that I supported McCain's plan for Iraq over Obama's. I have no idea what you're talking about. Please clarify."

Palin: "Duhhh."

Why won't he do something like this???

Posted by Brian | October 2, 2008 7:09 PM
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I am about ready to wish McCain and Palin win; those are the leaders that America with it's "Joe Six Packs" Hockey mom and pit bull owner deserve.

The rest of us, time to get the hell out of here.

Posted by Andrew | October 2, 2008 7:09 PM
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I have come to the conclusion that mispronunciations are actually calculated appeals to the doofi. How hard is it to get it right?

Say "new." Say "clear." Say "new-clear."

Say "ear-on." Say "ear-ock."

Posted by rob | October 2, 2008 7:10 PM
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She just winked at the camera again while talking about ANWR drilling. WTF?

Posted by meh | October 2, 2008 7:10 PM
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We've overloaded the system! POWER BABY

Posted by Sargon Bighorn | October 2, 2008 7:11 PM
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"Wasilla main street?" Seriously, does anyone want someone this folksy in office? Jesus, she takes GWB's bullshit folksiness and turns it up like a thousand times. She just said "now doggone it." WTF???

Posted by Brian | October 2, 2008 7:12 PM
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Say it ain't so, Joe!

Posted by snark | October 2, 2008 7:13 PM
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Joe Cool she is not

Posted by Simon | October 2, 2008 7:14 PM
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Palin: I stand for equal rights, as does McCain, but we don't take action on them.

Please make a note of it. This room sure did.

Posted by Mr. Poe | October 2, 2008 7:20 PM
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Gah. I got kicked from the widget. There's hella people in there. Is this a case of rubbernecking, or what? Expecting a train wreck? I don't remember this happening last week.

Posted by bearseatbeats | October 2, 2008 7:22 PM
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Palin's Freudian slip: "[McCain] is the man that we need to leave! ...uh... lead!."

Posted by rob | October 2, 2008 7:24 PM
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The CNN uncommitted focus group seems to like Biden better, from what I see.

Posted by tsm | October 2, 2008 7:24 PM
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"It should be noted: There was no clap response to Palin saying she doesn't agree with gay marriage."

Mr Poe,

you are in a room full of Log Cabinettes, aren't you?

Posted by yucca flower | October 2, 2008 7:28 PM
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Glad JB brought up the Supremes talking about Bork. Nice reminder of the bullet we dodged on that one.

Posted by drewl | October 2, 2008 7:30 PM
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Reminder: you can't win a national election being 100% pro-gay.

Posted by The CHZA | October 2, 2008 7:30 PM
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So tell me again why LiveSlog is supposed to be better than plain old everyday Slog? CHOKE! At least we all got comments in, over here on this side of the widget!

Posted by rob | October 2, 2008 7:36 PM
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Why was she fucking winking? Please, everyone, be embarrassed.

Posted by LDP in Cincinnati | October 2, 2008 7:39 PM
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i missed every single wink. i was reading liveslog instead. thank GOD i recorded the debate.

Posted by Simon | October 2, 2008 7:43 PM
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The conservatives are already harping on Palin's victory because she was so "folksy" and "attractive" and "didn't screw up".

Posted by Banna | October 2, 2008 7:46 PM
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The vice presidential debates brought the Internet to its knees! Site after site was down, or updating with huge lag times.

Posted by PopTart | October 2, 2008 7:50 PM
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is the governor's going for the paula abdul debate?

Posted by paula | October 2, 2008 7:56 PM
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So, I seem to remember that Palin tried to portray the Obama healthcare plan as "universal coverage" and play into people's distrust of the government - did Biden just let that go?

Posted by asteria | October 2, 2008 8:01 PM
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I couldn't bear to watch all of it. She was babbling! Did she answer even one question? She was asked about her Achilles' Heel; she obviously didn't know what that meant, she just started ranting about - I don't even know! And when they asked about the VP role and the Executive Branch, she wandered all over the place, even brought in her "executive" experience as governor!! She doesn't understand ANYTHING!!! And the horrible part is that I know there are lots of people out there that thought she was awesome. *headdesk*

Posted by Patti | October 2, 2008 8:13 PM
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Is it just me or does Palin remind anyone else of Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer?

"I'm just a Governor... I don't understand your Big City DC ways..."

She pulled that over and over in the Debate.

Posted by Tori Centanni | October 2, 2008 8:34 PM
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I can't decide what was the best part—when Palin said "betcha" and talked about soccer games in the first 30 seconds of her first answer, when she winked at the camera, or when Palin wrapped up a particularly nonsensical answer and Biden flashed that "are you fucking kidding me" smile. All so good.

Posted by Eric Grandy | October 2, 2008 9:02 PM
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Did anyone else notice who this celebrated mother didn't mention any of her children by name, and didn't even seem to acknowledge the one in the army?

And I really, truly wish that Biden had pointed out that there is absolutely no way the Palin family could buy insurance with little Trig as part of the equation.

Posted by Catalina Vel-DuRay | October 2, 2008 9:08 PM
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That "folksy" "Joe Six-pack" "Hockey Mom" approach/words that she kept on giving is very insulting to me.

Posted by Simon | October 2, 2008 9:10 PM
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I think this was better than a Palin melt-down, because that's already happened, and it might not have helped to repeat it. This way Biden had everyone watching for 90 mins while he pretty much systematically answered all of the McCain publicity points. So Palin showed she's not such an incompetent parrot, while Biden had lots of very valuable airtime to really drive home the differences between Obama and McCain.
The Republicans made a bad decision to play Sarah as populist vs. Biden. He just exudes populism, but with a battle-weary wisdom I think will appeal to some of the older middle-of-the-road crowd.

Posted by kinaidos | October 2, 2008 9:22 PM
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"the hemorrhaging has stopped for now" Mark Shields/NewsHour with Jim Lehrer

It looked like she was at a high school debate and was more concerned with smiling, using folksy comments and making her daddy proud. Did she really say her achilles's heel was education?

Posted by 4f...sake | October 2, 2008 9:40 PM

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