Slog - Comments on In Other Inter-Tubes http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes This past Friday night, Gawker Media founder Nick Denton announced he was laying off 19 editorial positions on his blogs, and cancelling his bonus plan, which had something to do with the number of comments each post received. Denton cites a probable dearth of future ad sales as the reason for the layoffs. One of the editors he laid off was Moe Tkacik, who was one of Gawker Media's big up-and-comers. Tkacik had just moved from Jezebel to Gawker's main site. Denton, of course, is the genius who sold Wonkette, which was the best thing Gawker Media ever produced, in... Copyright 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:00:00 -0800 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:06:05 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by SeMe Wow, the let Moe go? The most original writer they had? i bet there was some dispute there.

]]> SeMe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165620 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165620 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:04:20 -0800 Comment by kid icarus Wrong! Screenhead was the best thing Gawker Media ever produced.

]]> kid icarus http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165647 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165647 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:10:53 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Nick Denton is an idiot. Moe was the only reason to tour Jezebel when she was there. Defamer is the best thing Gawker Media has produced. If you ask me (a moron who finds The New Yorker unreadable), Tina Brown had no effect on The New Yorker, and people who clip their nails at a bar--where I am right now--are disgusting. Oh, and you're sexy beyond belief.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165663 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165663 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:13:57 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Tina Brown is smart and savvy, but she cannot tear herself away from celebrities. Look who's writing for her blog -- Tucker Asshat, Christopher Buckley, Laura Bennett from Project Runway for chrissakes. It's a Manhattan cocktail party, just like the New Yorker was when she was there. And heavy on the Republicans (though Manhattan Republicans are not like other Republicans much).

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165734 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165734 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:28:24 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe I see what you mean by 'Manhattan cocktail party,' but even still, Tucker Carlson doesn't fit in there. Even if you're shoving him in like butt rape.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165766 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165766 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:36:08 -0800 Comment by Non LOL @ bloggers thinking they are viable and sustainable business

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165795 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165795 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:45:44 -0800 Comment by Dougsf I gave the Daily Beast 10 seconds to load. It didn't. I won't be back. In this form it probably won't, either.

]]> Dougsf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165825 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165825 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:55:51 -0800 Comment by The Paper @6

Gawker also hous[ed] Sheila, the twat who was always shrieking about how all corporate bloggers should be either sustaining or demanding [more] pay. Shiela has acted as nothing more than a violin for the people who think that blogging 5 to 10 to 15 items a day should be able to make a living off of it. Even though most bloggers have a full-time job completely unrelated, or their blogging is an unpaid addition to that full-time job.

Fuck Gawker.

]]> The Paper http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165831 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165831 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 12:58:54 -0800 Comment by The Paper @6

Gawker also hous[ed] Sheila, the twat who was always shrieking about how all corporate bloggers should be either sustaining or demanding [more] pay. Shiela has acted as nothing more than a violin for the people who think that blogging 5 to 10 to 15 items a day should be able to make a living off of it. Even though most bloggers have a full-time job completely unrelated, or their blogging is an unpaid addition to that full-time job.

Fuck Gawker.

]]> The Paper http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165839 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165839 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:00:07 -0800 Comment by Sarah You should check out the screed Moe posted on Gawker today, it's pretty awesome. I'd be mad, too, if I got laid off thirty seconds after being convinced not to accept another offer.

]]> Sarah http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165858 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165858 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:03:56 -0800 Comment by Jessica I liked Moe a lot, and I think it's ridiculous to lay off 19 people while saying you're going to hire 10 more. I don't think anyone got laid off at Jezebel, but they aren't hiring on who they need to there, either.

Though they did start Weekend Jezebel this weekend, and that's pretty fucking awesome.

]]> Jessica http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165957 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1165957 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:31:18 -0800 Comment by Matt Fuckin' Hickey Before this announcement they actually laid a few more people off. I should know, I was blogging for Gizmodo when they changed their mind and decided there wasn't room for another full timer. Thus, I'm fucking off over to Cnet. But the bonus structure wasn't about comments, it was about clickthroughs. You got a base salary and then a bonus based on how many individual page views your collective posts received. So if your posts in a month were, say, 1,230,239, you'd get that times whatever your bonus rate was.


@6: Actually, it is. Blogging bought me my BMW and pays for my exceptionally large apartment, so fuck you.

]]> Matt Fuckin' Hickey http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166015 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166015 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:44:45 -0800 Comment by and the middle doing the things that matter are paying for it @12

That doesn't mean you deserve it. One of the reasons our economy is fucked is because of a gross number of marginal people getting paid for marginal things, so fuck you.

]]> and the middle doing the things that matter are paying for it http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166090 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166090 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:04:42 -0800 Comment by uncle baggy @12 - the key word @6 stated was 'sustainable'. The point being you will not be able to sustain your current lifestyle, very soon. Plus, you're clearly high on your own fumes (yes, I mean farts).

]]> uncle baggy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166202 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166202 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:35:30 -0800 Comment by Waste of skin a BMW!! Whooa too kewl for school! And apparently too kewl for a brain

]]> Waste of skin http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166214 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166214 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:39:44 -0800 Comment by Matt Fuckin' Hickey @13


Since when is the media marginal? Media is media, blogs are just the latest version. Don't forget, television was considered marginal once, too.


And blaming the economic fuckpile we're in now on bloggers? In a blog comment? C'mon.


@14


Even sustainable businesses have to lay people off once in awhile. It's part of growing a business. And I'm not high on my own farts, I'm hungover. They're different.

]]> Matt Fuckin' Hickey http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166253 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166253 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:54:00 -0800 Comment by go you! I think the key word was one. Well at least you have your BMW, big apartment and marginal friends.

]]> go you! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166331 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166331 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:24:12 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Matt was only at Gizmodo for 2 months or so, I believe. It didn't pay for his BMW, his large apartment, or his marginal friends. (Who aren't marginal.) In other words, he had plenty of work beforehand, and as you can see, he still does, because he moved on. Moe will too. And like Matt, she'll do well, and neither should have to answer to the likes of you. Like, ever.

And for the record, Matt is awesome. I think.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166754 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/in_other_intertubes#c1166754 Teh Internets Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:06:05 -0800