Slog - Comments on Howard Wolfson on McCain: "It's over." http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over Take it (for what it's worth) from a guy who helped direct Hillary Clinton's presidential run, and therefore should know something about a campaign being over before it's admitted as much publicly: Perpetually fretting Democrats will not want to accept it. The campaigns themselves can't afford to believe it. Many journalists know it but can't say it. And there will certainly be some twists and turns along the way. But take it to a well capitalized bank: Bill Ayers isn't going to save John McCain. The race is over.... Copyright 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:30:38 -0800 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:33:22 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by PC Gee, just a few days ago when we had all that news of the bailout I said the same thing. I reassured the couple few nervous Obama supporters who had written in saying they dared not hope for victory, etc., saying it's in the bag now, if even I say it take it to the bank, this is perhaps a first me being more optimmistic on Obama than others on Slog, etc. I said this economic tsunami is a gamechanger (for the next 5-6 weels) and ensures Obama will stay at a nice lead in the polls and not the ever so slim razor thin lead he had before; because this economic subject will rear its ugly head and be a topic that again we also we are moving towards (shit even I'm starting to sound like Palin! Great article on her diction in NYT yesterday btw.).

Because it's now all about economics, all the time.

Which btw is good ol'-style politics, not this fairy tale dream of a new style of politics & appealing to a new spirit of bipartisan transcendence blah blah blah. Swing voters don't give a shit about that--they give a shit about what Obama's been talking about lately:
1. jobs
2. homes
3. college
4.health care


Also welcome:
Obama kicking the shit out of McCain over that Keating 5 thing. Another old syle poticial move a/k/a "speaking truth about the bad shit your opponent has done." A/k/a defining the debate. A/k/a going on o-f-f-e-n-s-e instead of just saying "well gee I do too love America, I am not a traitor, I am not a weird exotic."

It's about fucking time. McCain and the GOP have wrecked our economy with their laissez faire fairy tales to enrish those selling credit swaps.

Now WE own the finance sector. I hope Obama uses the Keating 5 to reframe the whole debate andhelp build support for the sweeping changes needed to further resuce the economy and as Friedman says move on to greening it and reforming health care etc. KEating 5 = dereg = what's been going on now = whole GOP philosphy = anti American treason taking away liberty & opportunity for all = McCain, Lord Basil & John Bailo and their ilk are yellow bellied traitors.

Just sayin'.

Unity y'all (but not them)--

]]> PC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164775 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164775 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:45:05 -0800 Comment by crazycatguy I'm sure when Obama decided to run he had no idea his first job as President would be dealing with GD2. I pray he is up to the challenge.

]]> crazycatguy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164785 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164785 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:51:42 -0800 Comment by DavidC 40% of the early voters in Georgia so far are black - they make up 29% of the total population but only 25% of the voters in 2004.

I'm not saying Obama will win Georgia but if I was Saxby Chambliss I'd start to worry.

]]> DavidC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164791 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164791 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:53:55 -0800 Comment by max solomon now is not the time to take the boot off mccain's neck. he must thoroughly beaten, in public, in both the remaining debates. the incompetent criminal bush administration & its GOP enablers must be utterly rejected by the voters.

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164886 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164886 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:10:42 -0800 Comment by Jason Petersen Where the hell is John Bailo? I need to hear his take on this.

]]> Jason Petersen http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164907 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164907 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:13:24 -0800 Comment by six shooter Don't count McCain out early. That old man will do anything to get power.

]]> six shooter http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164943 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164943 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:18:41 -0800 Comment by Bellevue Ave McCain has to pray that the economy in the near term turns around in about 2 weeks otherwise he's fucked. You can't undo the situation in less than 2 weeks and we only have 4 weeks left.

]]> Bellevue Ave http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164971 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1164971 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:23:17 -0800 Comment by Olo I'm waiting for an established, nationally-syndicated conservative columnist (I'm looking at you, Kristol) to explicitly pronounce that it would be irresponsible of McCain not to press on (or of voters not to withhold judgment) until we've heard from bin Laden via his vlog.

]]> Olo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165049 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165049 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:39:28 -0800 Comment by Jen I am a perpetually fretting Democrat and it is not over until McCain concedes defeat.

]]> Jen http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165081 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165081 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:49:05 -0800 Comment by Reverse Polarity Oh, well. Since it's over, I guess we can all just turn off our TVs and skip the election. November 4th doesn't really count for anything.

Good to know.

]]> Reverse Polarity http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165331 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165331 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:25:38 -0800 Comment by east coaster I am willing to believe it in a factual kind of way, but I will not believe it in my heart until all the votes are cast and counted. My heart will not admit premature belief, for it has not, and probably will never, forget its grief for John Kerry and Al Gore.

]]> east coaster http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165450 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165450 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:37:54 -0800 Comment by Seajay Howard Wolfson ... not the FOX News guy, surely? You mean there's someone who works for Fox News who has something to say worth listening to? Shock horror!

]]> Seajay http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165469 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165469 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:42:00 -0800 Comment by Lord Basil Obama is a Muslim and terrorist sympathizer.

McCain in a 50 states sweep.

]]> Lord Basil http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165489 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165489 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:45:01 -0800 Comment by Rain Monkey George Bush may not even know this, but Dick Cheney and his co-conspirators have committed capital crimes. The idea that they will release their hold on the levers of power following free and fair elections is not now credible.

It may still be possible to save our republic, but just waiting for the election results will not be enough to do it.

I've started a discussion about this on the Stranger Forums, here: http://forums.thestranger.com/showthread.php?p=85978#post85978

You can help. Spread the information. Creating the political will to confront the coup is our only hope.

]]> Rain Monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165592 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165592 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 11:58:29 -0800 Comment by Old_Mama_Chips Is it me, or is John Bailo, Lord Basil and ecce homo (RIP) all the same troll? You never see them commenting on the same slog post at the same time. Kinda like Clark Kent and superman! Only, you know, not superhero material. Just sayin'...

]]> Old_Mama_Chips http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165872 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1165872 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:07:07 -0800 Comment by violet_dagrinder I've held a firm belief all along, fueled by what remains of my faith in humanity, that Obama would win. I'm confident that he will.

But this dark little corner of my brain keeps thinking about electronic voting machines and black folks being turned away from polls in huge numbers. . . so . . . I still wanna see.

]]> violet_dagrinder http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166041 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166041 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:52:55 -0800 Comment by Vince Hey P.C.! Less caffeine!

]]> Vince http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166042 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166042 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 13:52:58 -0800 Comment by inkweary Is this a ploy to lull Obama backers into such complacency some will think it is OK to stay home on election day?

]]> inkweary http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166372 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166372 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:41:31 -0800 Comment by Furcifer Complacency hasn't been an issue since 2000. Other factors played a part in 2004: a fear of changing horses in the middle of a war, a fear of rocking the boat in a decent but fragile economic climate, the typical inertia of an incumbent, and a wholly irrational (but completely understandable) loathing of John Kerry. At the time, most people still weren't fully aware that the administration had wholly fabricated the WMD intelligence that got us into the war in the first place. None of these conditions apply today.

At some point, fretting ceases being useful and actually becomes a hindrance. It wouldn't hurt Obama supporters to finally start showing a little confidence. Confident people look like winners and leaders.

]]> Furcifer http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166408 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166408 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:56:26 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle It ain't over until the US Supreme Court says it's over after the reprogrammed Diebold (name changed to protect the guilty) machines deliver the fake vote counts.

Keep it together for 30 days and make sure each and every one of your relatives, friends, and classmates/coworkers VOTES.

Actions. Not trusting words.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166926 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/howard_wolfson_on_mccain_its_over#c1166926 2008 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:33:22 -0800