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<description> I spotted Seattle Times editorial columnist Joni Balter at this afternoon&apos;s dual debate on Sound Transit and Initiative 985, so of course I&apos;m looking forward to seeing what she has to say about the discussion. Given that this is a woman who opposes a city move to recycle kitchen waste, claimed a council resolution supporting local food imposed &quot;militant vegetable growing&quot; and other &quot;enviro-dogma,&quot; has written not one, not two, not three, but four columns opposing the parks and Pike Place Market levies (noting, in every single one, that &quot;everybody loves parks, but...&quot;), and has argued that not only...</description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:37:43 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by A Non Imus</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>How is it possible to feel nannied, militant and oppressed, when you're all three, wrapped in a passive-aggressive, condescending shell?</p>]]></description>
<author>A Non Imus</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177088</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177088</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:49:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by A Non Imus</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>* the biggest perpetrator of all three, rather</p>]]></description>
<author>A Non Imus</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177090</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177090</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:50:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by flamingbanjo</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It's not so much the plastic bags as the things inside them that one "lugs."</p>

<p>Plastic bags by themselves are surprisingly luggable!</p>]]></description>
<author>flamingbanjo</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177094</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177094</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:53:28 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Dave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Erica, why did you rip your jeans?  Aren't you cold?  </p>]]></description>
<author>Dave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177099</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177099</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:55:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Terry</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>You're so, so virtuous.  </p>

<p>God, I'll bet you were a hateable child. </p>]]></description>
<author>Terry</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177108</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177108</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:59:52 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by a fan</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Erica, you get a lot of shit from random assholes on the slog. I'm a random asshole who's a big fan. Thanks for doing what you do and fighting the good fight and sticking it that prig Joni.</p>]]></description>
<author>a fan</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177111</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177111</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:01:02 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by not so militant, not so eco, FCF CSA member</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>ECB, I have some serious questions. <br />
How do you store that many vegetables and fruits and other optional items from FCF on the bike? I haven't even attempted to do this on my motorcycle.</p>

<p>How do you build up the stamina to ride up and down hills? </p>

<p>How do you outfit yourself and your bike for maximum visibility? </p>

<p>I ask as I've been feeling guilty about using the car to pick up our FCF CSA box. </p>]]></description>
<author>not so militant, not so eco, FCF CSA member</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177113</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177113</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:01:47 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by not ECB</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@7,<br />
1 - bike rack or basket<br />
2 - practice and a good road bike<br />
3 - same as when you're walking</p>]]></description>
<author>not ECB</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177134</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177134</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:17:23 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by lily</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>That's great, ECB. I'm glad you do the CSA, and the biking thing, and the general looking out for the environment thing. </p>

<p>But please tell me you put those pants for the ride up the hill. Because going to a *professional event* wearing ripped jeans... Oh, honey. No. </p>

<p>What are you, like a 6/8? If so, I have a few pairs of pants that I could donate to the Erica cause. It would practically be recycling.  </p>]]></description>
<author>lily</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177138</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177138</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:22:18 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by joykiller</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows Erica can't drive, so the last paragraph is pretty disingenuous.</p>]]></description>
<author>joykiller</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177142</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177142</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:29:48 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I think Joni and I were right about the plastic bags, and when you see the vote coming down the pike, you'll finally get how we love recycling, but we think you guys just don't get how most Seattle voters live sometimes.</p>

<p>And I say this from a building where most people bike or bus to work. Or walk.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177143</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177143</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:31:22 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Joni Balter</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Bitch, you plagiarized my columns on the social conservatism of Dino Rossi</p>]]></description>
<author>Joni Balter</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177145</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177145</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:32:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. X</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Insufferable self-righteousness, thy initials are ECB...</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. X</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177147</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177147</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:33:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sonic Youth</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joni put it all behind you<br />
hey Joni now I've put it all behind me too<br />
these times can't add up<br />
yr life is such a mess<br />
forget the past, and just say yes</p>

<p>tell me Joni, am I the one<br />
to see you through?<br />
In this broken town can you still jack in<br />
and know what to do?<br />
I remember our youth, our high ideals<br />
I remember you were so uptight<br />
that time in the trees, we broke that vice<br />
we took some steps and now<br />
we can't think twice</p>

<p>tell me Joni, am I right by you?<br />
Tell me how yr gonna lose this hard luck?<br />
Hey Joni, when will all these dreams come true?<br />
You'd better find a way<br />
to climb down off that truck</p>

<p>shots ring out from the center of an empty field<br />
Joni's in the tall grass<br />
she's a beautiful mental jukebox<br />
a sailboat explosion<br />
a snap of electric whipcrack</p>

<p>she's not thinking about the future<br />
She's not spinning her wheels<br />
she doesn't think at all about the past<br />
she thinking long and hard<br />
about that high wild sound<br />
and wondering will it last?</p>

<p>Kick it</p>

<p>Hey Joni, put it all behind you<br />
There's something turning, Joni, turning right to you<br />
my head burns, but I know you'll speak the truth, hey!<br />
hey Joni, put it all behind you<br />
hey Joni, now I've put it all behind me too<br />
forget the future<br />
these times are such a mess<br />
tune out the past, and just say yes</p>

<p>it's 1963<br />
it's 1964<br />
it's 1957<br />
it's 1962</p>

<p>put it all behind you<br />
now it's all behind you<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Sonic Youth</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177159</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177159</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:43:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hernandez</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>You get the CSA box too?  Right on!  </p>

<p>@14 That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the title to this post.</p>]]></description>
<author>Hernandez</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177174</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177174</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:53:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Because you&apos;re stuck at the Stranger</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>You really have a problem with female journalists, don't you? </p>]]></description>
<author>Because you&apos;re stuck at the Stranger</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177178</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177178</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:55:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Sonic Youth</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@15,</p>

<p>FYI, it's official: we just signed to Matador records! Same label that originally put out <i>Exile in Guyville</i>! Sonic Youth are indy again! Fuck yeah!<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Sonic Youth</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177181</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177181</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:57:00 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Dougsf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The last 2 sentences of your post were great. </p>]]></description>
<author>Dougsf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177186</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177186</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:01:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by mike</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>i don't understand not supporting the parks...</p>

<p>pike market, on the other hand - it's not falling apart. they should hit up tourists for donations. renovating it will increase the number of fat tourists who stand around and won't get out of my way when i've got to buy fish & veggies.</p>]]></description>
<author>mike</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177210</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177210</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:42:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ivan</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Joni writes what Frank Blethen tells her to write, Erica, so take it out on Frank.</p>

<p>Joni at least is a real journalist, who if sent to cover a debate, would write about the debate, instead of boring the readers with how fucking self-righteous she is for refusing to drive a car.</p>

<p>Besides, at the Times, insufferable self-righteousness is Nicole Brodeur's beat.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>ivan</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177276</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177276</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:08:25 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Grant Cogswell</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Erica, fucking EXACTLY. </p>]]></description>
<author>Grant Cogswell</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177321</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177321</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:03:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Kalakalot</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It always amazes me that Joni Balter -- whose ideas consistently <i>infuriate</i> me -- is (or at least was) married to Tim Egan, whose ideas I find meaty and delicious. <i>The Worst Hard Time</i>: That shit was excellent. "Militant vegetable growing" and "enviro-dogma": That shit is bananas.  </p>]]></description>
<author>Kalakalot</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177380</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177380</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:34:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Earth to Joni, Hello?</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I particularly love how Joni supports the Bellevue parks levy BECAUSE it is a renewal, but DOESN'T support the Seattle parks levy for the exact same reason...  Oh, and because Seattle's is more expensive; well Earth to Joni, Seattle is bigger and has more people...  I think she just likes being a cranky lady.  Let's prove to her that while people in Seattle are persnickety, they understand the big picture, too.</p>]]></description>
<author>Earth to Joni, Hello?</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177427</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177427</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:23:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Eliza</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Way to live your values! Heck yeah!</p>]]></description>
<author>Eliza</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177463</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hey_joni#c1177463</guid>
<category>Enviro</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:55:09 -0800</pubDate>
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