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<description>Today&apos;s Weekday was a little crazy, and quite entertaining. We took calls from a bunch of those fabled Obama-Rossi voters, one of whom suggested I wasn&apos;t an American and claimed that his vote was going to be determined largely by an offensive public art tire sculpture at a transfer station in... I think it was Lynnwood.* I don&apos;t know if the audio is up yet, but once it is, it&apos;s really worth a listen if you&apos;re interested in the current Red Scare in Washington and curious about who these ticket-splitting voters are—and how they explain their plans to vote for,...</description>
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<title>Comment by Original Andrew</title>
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<p>Anyone who works in customer service or retail can confirm that half of the American public is just plain fucking crazy.</p>]]></description>
<author>Original Andrew</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177715</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:14:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by pragmatic</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@1 That's been my experience. When I worked that kind of job one summer in college a guy called me a "stupid fucking monkey" because I refused to give him a credit to his account he didn't deserve.</p>]]></description>
<author>pragmatic</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177720</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:18:15 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by kinaidos</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Was angry tire sculpture guy a delusional plumber by any chance?</p>]]></description>
<author>kinaidos</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177721</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:21:24 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by ellarosa</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>i determined some years ago that if you scratch the surface of your average joe or josette (plumber, six pack, whatever) you'll discover a raving lunatic one out of three times.  it's a rough average--results may vary on a given day.</p>]]></description>
<author>ellarosa</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177726</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177726</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:24:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by shoreline perhaps?</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Dan,<br />
I think I might have a match.<br />
Could it be the singing tires at the Shoreline Recycling Facility that he's referring to?</p>

<p><a href="http://ronaldbog.blogspot.com/2008/02/new-public-art-in-shoreline.html" rel="nofollow">http://ronaldbog.blogspot.com/2008/02/new-public-art-in-shoreline.html</a></p>

<p>You can also skip straight to the YouTube, but BE CAREFUL NOT TO WORK YOURSELF UP INTO A FRENZIED RAGE!!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFpsb7BfbEA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFpsb7BfbEA</a></p>]]></description>
<author>shoreline perhaps?</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177730</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:30:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by heywhatsit</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure he wasn't talking about the recycled truck tires lining the entrance to the dump, er, um, transfer station in Shoreline?  According to the website they "emit recorded natural and urban sounds" but mostly they just sound like flushing toilets.</p>]]></description>
<author>heywhatsit</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177732</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:31:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by whoops!</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Eli!  For some reason I was thinking that was a post by Dan.</p>]]></description>
<author>whoops!</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177734</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:32:29 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by heywhatsit</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@5 beat me to it and WINS!</p>]]></description>
<author>heywhatsit</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177736</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177736</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:33:00 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by SP</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The public art project was at a newly built waste station...maybe Shoreline? I think it was completed last year. It was four or so large tires (different color hubcaps) and the sounds of nature whistled through them so you could listen  while you waited in line.</p>

<p>Wow....of all the issues we're facing, that's the one that was a tipping point for someone???</p>]]></description>
<author>SP</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177738</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177738</guid>
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<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:34:44 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by lily</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>People like that make me want to punch babies. And I even *like* babies.</p>]]></description>
<author>lily</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177739</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:36:44 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I can't see the frenzied rage, but that is indeed pretty irritating public "art". Why can't the dump just be the dump?<br /><br />
It doesn't make me want to vote for Rossi one iota, though.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177741</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177741</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:38:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Enigma</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I turned on my radio just before that guy called in and said "I'm not a Democrat or a Republican, I'm an American" and I just burst out laughing.<br />
I'm a Moderate, does that make me un-American? Maybe we should create an American Party and make it have really offensive positions on everything so people will stop and think before they blindly spurt out "I'm an American!".</p>]]></description>
<author>Enigma</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177745</link>
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<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:43:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by --</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@12,<br />
the Republicans' appropriation of the American flag pretty much already has that effect...</p>]]></description>
<author>--</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177751</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177751</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:46:27 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Effete snob</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The invitation of reporters from such downscale, vulgur publications as The Stranger attract a different kind of listener to KUOW.  Eli thinks of himself as one of the liberal elite, but his presence alone tends to draw kooks, and liberal kooks in particular.</p>]]></description>
<author>Effete snob</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177756</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177756</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:51:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Joe M</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>A little off topic, but...</p>

<p>The Chicago Tribune endorsed Obama today. The Trib has never, ever endorsed a Democrat for president since the paper's founding in the mid 1800's.</p>

<p>It persuaded my mom, a Republican ever since voting for Goldwater, to go with Obama this time.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com" rel="nofollow">www.chicagotribune.com</a></p>]]></description>
<author>Joe M</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177770</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177770</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Chris in Tampa</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I always vote against incumbents unless there's some good reason not to.</p>]]></description>
<author>Chris in Tampa</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177771</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177771</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:00:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Particle Man</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Chris in Tampa...please stay there.<br />
 <br />
Regarding the comments in the voter contact effort, "undecided voters" and anyone who is voting for Obama and then for Rossi:</p>

<p>Let us remember that with folks voting in high numbers and doing so from home, that we are getting a much higher percentage of, well, just stupid voters. Here in our state with the Governors race so close millions will be spent trying to gain votes from these stupid voters. </p>

<p>I can accept that 35% or so of registered voters will support Dino Rossi even though he has no moral compass and had acted unethically as an elected official, as a candidate and in business. These folks will vote for Dino because some issues are so key to them that they would support a crook anyway. </p>

<p>Right now, another 12% to 13% of registered voters are supporting Rossi because they are unable to see through his sales pitch and blindly accept what Rossi and the BIAW put out there for them to lap up. These folks are hard to take since they are ignorant and lazy.</p>

<p>And anyone who has made an informed decision to vote for Obama and plans to vote for Dino is either a skitzoid nut or one of those stupid voters I mentioned above.</p>

<p>Sorry...no time left to pull punches.</p>]]></description>
<author>Particle Man</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177806</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177806</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:33:59 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Original Monique</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I have met many people who want to throw out all incumbents because of:</p>

<p>a) schools. the low funding and bad management of seattle schools is apparently appalling (i dont have kids in school so i dont know first hand). My friends have to pay extra money for paper, pens, ink, etc for a public school in north seattle. I am not talk their kids supplies either. They are pissed, and rightfully so. </p>

<p>b) the sonics. People are pissed about it, and gregiore didnt do anything/enough to keep them here and people are mad as hell </p>

<p>c) I can't give them 1 thing that gregiore did that benefitted them. Sure, she stood up to the pharmacy's, but what else? i need good reasons and i haven't got them. </p>

<p>d) people who dont on party, i think, are awesome. they arent bound to someone because of a r or d. to get these people, you have to convince them that you are better and gregiore isnt making her case, and lord knows i cant figure out how either. </p>

<p>So Stranger, please give us talking points as to why she will BENEFIT parents and schools. I could sway some votes if I had some ideas.... </p>]]></description>
<author>Original Monique</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177844</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177844</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:24:33 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by AJ</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@18: The clear funding shortfall should be reason enough. A good portion of Rossi's 18 billion (2007 numbers, not YOE) transportation plan and I-985 will come from the general fund with I-985 being the most aggregious since it hurts areas outside of Seattle the most.</p>

<p>Another issue is that Gregoire is unwilling to give up ground on education funding. None. It's one reason she's not too keen on transportation funding since it has a way of sapping the General Fund unless it's done like Sound Transit.</p>

<p>It should be noted that while Seattle schools may be marginally underfunded in some cases, the city is indeed top of the heap in the state with none of its schools classified as "dropout factories" versus almost 2 dozen throughout the state.</p>]]></description>
<author>AJ</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177855</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177855</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:37:33 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>fnarf, you don't get art if you cant see the merits of that sculpture. If you need explanation you'll never get it. </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177882</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177882</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:08:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by crazycatguy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see the theme for this project. Let's see, it probably went something like this: "Artwork should reflect the artist's creative input for recycling and bring attention to the Transfer Station as an important part of this process." OK... get some big fucking tires, paint the hubs and stick a speaker in them.  Collect $$$$$. Is it any wonder that initiative 985 is going to pass? </p>]]></description>
<author>crazycatguy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177920</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1177920</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:47:37 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I know, BA, I know. I sit here broken-hearted, in my underpants and novelty bow tie, doomed to watch Three's Company reruns and never understand a thing about art.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1178012</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1178012</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:02:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jenny</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I think the Dems for Dino vote is non-existent.  </p>

<p>Some portion of independents will vote Obama and Rossi, soley on change.  </p>

<p>But  I recently had dinner with a well known Republican, who is voting  Gregoire.  He says that most of his friends are voting for McCain, but none of them are voting for Rossi.  They are King County Republicans that think Dino is 1) an empty suit;  2) downright fringe like; 3) lacking in any real business experience; and 4) They would rather McKenna get it in 4 years.</p>

<p>So not all Republicans are with the new GOP</p>]]></description>
<author>Jenny</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1178067</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1178067</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:58:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Andy Niable</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>(by the same logic) Vote Mussolini--He Made The Trains Run On Time </p>]]></description>
<author>Andy Niable</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1178102</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/10/hello_voting_public#c1178102</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:55:40 -0800</pubDate>
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