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theoretically, the dog could have been loveable at one time.

nurture & neuter.

Posted by max solomon | October 6, 2008 10:01 AM

"Human Society?"

Posted by John Galt | October 6, 2008 10:05 AM

He Must Have Provoked That Gay Somehow

A gay rapes a two-month old baby in Hawaii--but, hey, at least no one is claiming the gays are otherwise sweet and lovable.

Neighbors described the gay that raped a 2-month-old boy early yesterday as a loud and flamboyant gay that remained sequestered for most of the time in a booth in the back of The Eagle. "My grandchildren couldn't go to Pike Street because I thought the gay was dangerous," said Vidinha, 68.

The gay also attacked the baby's mother, who is hospitalized in stable condition. A spokesperson for the Human Society in Hawaii notes that "attacks of this nature give gays--particularly flaming ones--a negative stereotype." Yeah, isn't it a pity?

Posted by w7ngman | October 6, 2008 10:15 AM

@3: That is an idiotic analogy, coming from somebody who isn't normally an idiot.

Please stop implying that certain types of people are analogous to certain breeds of dogs. Besides being an inapt metaphor, it's incredibly insulting. It does nothing to make your point and makes you kinda look like a jackass.

People are not dogs.

Posted by flamingbanjo | October 6, 2008 10:40 AM

How about blacks? I can do it with blacks, too.

Posted by w7ngman | October 6, 2008 11:10 AM

@5: there are certain human groups that are more violent than others, but only one that is genetically much more dangerous in all cultures (men). we can't ban men from society and we can't force them to be neutered, but we can regulate animals and goods that are unsafe without affecting human rights in a significant way.

Posted by jrrrl | October 6, 2008 11:45 AM

We are going to ask all the dogs to stop fucking each other?

Good luck with that one jrrl

Posted by formerly OR Matt | October 6, 2008 11:49 AM

Besides, forcing pet owners to spay and neuter their pets ... IS the best way. But realistically.

While we are at it, why don't we tell the hispanic families to not have so many children, and of course to enter our country legally,

And then of course PAY for it. Seattle dare I say it, is full of elitist subculturally insensitive ass holes! No wonder why the rednecks can't stand you people. Life is an ugly thing, and people just like dogs will breed. They have a vested interest in reproducing. What happens when you can't afford birth control, or car insurance, or education ... well gee golly people don't fucking pay for it, and society pays.

The pitbulls, breed banning, is a total fucking red herring of animal treatment.

Posted by formerly OR Matt | October 6, 2008 12:01 PM

Oh yeah, here is another fun fact for you. Your child is STATISTICALY more likely to die IN A POOL than any other activity.

Well Dan not only are you going to have strip that activity, and summer memmories away from him, he won't grow up to get that lean swimmers body.

Posted by formerly OR Matt | October 6, 2008 12:17 PM

Accdents of this nature give bodies of wateró-particularly swimming poolsó-a negative stereotype.

Posted by w7ngman | October 6, 2008 12:36 PM


Are you trying to imply that red-necks from Monroe or Enumclaw are somehow MORE subculturally sensitive by comparison?

Or is it just that assholes exist everywhere, in every society and subculture, and therefore we should treat ALL assholes with the same amount of snide, snarky, insensitivity, regardless of their geographic locale or socio-economic background?

Posted by COMTE | October 6, 2008 12:50 PM

With respect to your comment ... I'm not implying that they are MORE insensitive. I'm not really a dog person, but I just can't get over how people refer to breed banning on these posts. It's so ridiculous in logic and elitist in practice.

To me, it sound like throwing money at someone to take out their garbage.

I'm also more on the side of the people that have to enforce the theoretical breed bans, because they are ultimately unenforcable. Dog breeds are especially vague in the real world where people don't go to the pet store and pick out a dog that was breed in a puppy mill. It also puts huge a burden on animal control where these people get payed crap to do something that they only enjoy, and people like Dan Savage seem to totally take for grantid.

Like I said, these posts are elitist.

Posted by formerly OR Matt | October 6, 2008 12:58 PM

I love dogs. My dear puppies were both rescued from abusive situations and both have aggressive tendencies. To address these issues, dogs need a huge amount of exercise, training, and constant vigilance. When I tell people that I walk my dogs three times a day, most are shocked. Rain, sleet, shine, or snow, in sickness and in health, they are taken out three times every single day. We vary their routes so they don't get bored with the walks. On weekends, we take them to the beach, or the mountains, or to farms to chase cows and other farm animals and run off-leash.

A dog that is as big and muscular as a pit bull should be exercised for several hours a day. The sad fact is that few owners are willing or capable of dedicating that kind of time and attention to their dog. So the dog gets short walks and stays in the yard or house or kennel for hours on end, growing progressively more bored, more neurotic, more aggressive, until they eventually break-out to take themselves on a walk, to run down whatever petty annoyance has been aggravating them from the other side of the door or fence (and yes, having two very young nephews, I can say declaratively, toddlers harass dogs - my 18 month old nephew, if he had his druthers, loves to poke his fingers in my dogs' noses, eyes, and ears, and is prone to whacking them on the head or back).

The fact is that pitt bulls require a little more care than the average labrador. However, culturally speaking, it's rare for dogs owners to put the necessary effort into them and one simply has more dire consequences when a pit bull gets loose than when a nasty-tempered chihuahua gets out.

Posted by dog lover | October 6, 2008 1:21 PM

I don't like you or your dogs. Poor baby.

Posted by Vince | October 6, 2008 1:51 PM

@13... I have always said that pit bulls are varsity-level dogs. You can have no clue what you're doing and own a "beginners" dog like a Maltese or something, and more than likely, no one will get hurt.

But, with a pit or other large breed, you have to know how to train, exercise, and be the alpha dog. I'm always amazed at people who are impressed by how well-behaved our dog is (e.g., "he comes when you call him!"). I'm like, he's a 90-lb Doberman. What is the alternative?

The question is, how to address the problem of "beginner" owners having "advanced" dogs? Breed bans? Mandatory spay/neuter? Additional licensing requirements? All are difficult from a practical implementation perspective...

Posted by Julie in Chicago | October 6, 2008 2:24 PM

Oderint Dum Metuant.

Posted by Lavode | October 6, 2008 3:53 PM

A gay chef murdered his lover

Time to exterminate all gay people. Remember Jeffrey Dahmer? Oh he was such a nice guy.

Posted by St Francis | October 6, 2008 5:25 PM

HIV Rate Up 12 Percent Among Young Gay Men

Gay people are a disease that needs to be cured. Ops, sorry I meant exterminated.

Posted by St Francis | October 6, 2008 5:30 PM

At least the pit bull wasn't a separatist traitor like Palin and St Francis.

Posted by Will in Seattle | October 6, 2008 9:40 PM

@19: you must be gay

It was just confirmed that the dog WAS NOT a pitbull

Dan Savage=Gay=Liar

Posted by St Francis | October 7, 2008 8:43 PM

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