Slog - Comments on Ex-Gay Ex-Married

Comment by Smartypants

Smartypants — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:19:48 -0800

**Cue music**

"Bum, bum, bum, another one bites the dust"

Or bites the pillow in this case.

Comment by AJ

AJ — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:21:47 -0800

It means miserable people have miserable marriages, no matter who they marry.

Comment by Fnarf

Fnarf — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:27:30 -0800

Once you try the cock, there ain't no goin' bock? Wait, that's not right.

Wifey looks like whatsername Amanda Knox. Tell Charles.

Comment by brian

brian — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:31:42 -0800

Goddamned gays ruining another marriage.

Comment by rod

rod — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:43:09 -0800

Justice Barbara Madsen asserted that DOMA wasn't discriminitory because gays could get married--nevermind that a loveless marriage rather defeats the purpose of the institution. But would someone bring this to her attention, anyway?

Comment by COMTE

COMTE — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:51:23 -0800

I think it just means that, like the roughly 50% of straight marriages that end in divorce, lesbians are as human as the rest of us.

Shocking to some perhaps, but maybe that's why the Right is so Hell-bent on preventing gays from marrying in the first place - because they'll start adding to the divorce statistics, just like all the hets have been doing for lo these many centuries.

Comment by Vince

Vince — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:25:05 -0800

Human ability for self delusion is never greater than it is for religion.

Comment by whatevernevermind

whatevernevermind — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:29:41 -0800

For me, the point of this is that they believe it's absolutely imperative that you not be gay but your marriage vows are optional.

Divorce all you want, just make sure it's with somebody you're not attracted to?

Makes as much sense as anything else they believe.

Comment by Peterson Toscano

Peterson Toscano — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:35:22 -0800

I spent 17 years as an ex-gay (and lived to tell the story). I was married for five of those years and to friends and outsiders it looked like we had a great relationship, but like most of these marriages, it crashed and burned. After we divorced and I finally came out my dad, a US Marine from the South Bronx, NY pulled me aside and said, "Son, you can't make a fish fly!"

Comment by Will in Seattle

Will in Seattle — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:46:49 -0800

What does it prove?

That you're normal.

That is, if self-hating is normal.

Comment by max solomon

max solomon — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:09:02 -0800

@10: self-hating is normal. self-acceptance is the exception.

Comment by emma's bee

emma's bee — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:50:03 -0800

Francis Collins needs to have his biologist's license revoked.

Comment by Buffy

Buffy — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:49:37 -0800

It proves that they can fuck up a marriage just like any hetero can.

Comment by bd

bd — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:41:13 -0800

One thing missing from the article that, I admit, I'm curious about: Just why did they get divorced?

Of course, this really isn't any of our business. To the other, though, the mere fact of the divorce offers further proof that the phrase "sanctity of marriage" has no real value. To yet another, I will fall over laughing the day one of these "ex-gays" is found in cellphone camera images of an �ber-gay orgy taking place after the wedding.

So is Greg back in the closet, or merely celibate and trying to find out if he's flexible enough to lick his own wounds?

Comment by Robert

Robert — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:03:31 -0800

Nothing in this article to indicate that homosexuality was a factor in this divorce. At least 50% of marriages fail.

Comment by David Roberts

David Roberts — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:19:32 -0800

@ emma's bee: Not sure why your comment about Francis Collins, he had nothing to do with the distortions presented in his name, and was very helpful in our attempts to correct them.

@ bd: We found little by way of a reason for the divorce, but it is a matter of record that Cheryl filed to divorce Greg, and Greg did not want her to leave. No one we talked with mentioned any infidelity, homo or hetero, but of course that doesn't rule it out either. There was also a 17 year difference in ages, she being the younger (he is about 50) and it only lasted 3 years. There is always the chance that trying to prove a point (that orientation can be changed at will) can only hold a marriage together so long. Who would have thought it.