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<title>Slog - Comments on Where&apos;s the Multiplier Effect in this Bailout?</title>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai</link>
<description>The people who really dislike this bailout are starting to speak out. John Washburn at The Brad Blog thinks Paulson&apos;s plan could allow Paulson to buy Microsoft for a buck? (Thank you to slog tipper, Jeremy.) I&apos;m not entirely convinced. A financially savvy slog reader made the following point to me in an email: The point of the bailout was to inject liquidity back in the market, which was supposed to have occurred after people had confidence in their banks again. That&apos;s not going to happen. We do already have a much better method of injecting that liquidity directly though,...</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:57:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by keshmeshi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>And we'll get delicious pastries.</p>]]></description>
<author>keshmeshi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151367</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:06:03 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The guy friend should be shot. </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151368</link>
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<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:06:05 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Julie in Chicago</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>That sounds like a reasonable economic stimulus proposal (a good alternative to the stimulus checks that were sent out, since I'm sure the multiplier effect with lending the money to small businesses would be greater).  </p>

<p>But, the folks in Washington are thinking about this as how do we secure our banking system and ensure it doesn't fail.  They're probably thinking that if half of our banks fail, the economy is doomed no matter what happens from the ground up...</p>

<p>So, it seems like pairing this type of approach with some kind of insurance on the mortgage-backed securities or government investment in the banks in exchange for a stake (like the AIG deal) would be a good approach.</p>]]></description>
<author>Julie in Chicago</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151418</link>
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<category>Money</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:38:14 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by daniel</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>According to what I'm looking at the SBA makes about $1 billion dollars worth of loans in a year.  Your scale is off.</p>

<p>What you're saying is similar to a thought I've had.  As I've been trying to understand this, basically our banks are all shot and this plan is trying to "reboot" our banking system.  I wondered, well why not just make new banks?</p>

<p>I think that's infeasible though because of the scale of the problem.  You're basically suggesting that our new bank be created by making the SBA a hundred or a thousand times larger.  That's not a quick solution and not a long term solution.</p>

<p>I don't think people want to nationalize the banks.  They want equity to reduce how much we get fucked but eventually we're supposed to get back out.  Blowing up the SBA wouldn't lead to that.<br />
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<author>daniel</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151429</link>
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<category>Money</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:44:12 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by formerly OR Matt</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>But how do these sound investments help out the corporate lobby?</p>]]></description>
<author>formerly OR Matt</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151443</link>
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<category>Money</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:53:48 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by infrequent</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p><i>Simply put, WaMu was victimized by a classic "run on the bank." Customers withdrew $16.7 billion in a 10-day period following the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers, leaving WaMu "with insufficient liquidity to meet its obligations," its regulators determined.<br /><br /></i></p>

<p>A longer explanation is WaMu was victimized by mismanagement and misguided bets on exotic (and toxic) instruments such as option adjustable-rate mortgages.<br /><br /></p>

<p>-<a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/73415/Run-on-Bank-Helped-Kill-WaMu-But-Your-Money-Is-Safe?tickers=WM,JPM,XLF,WB,^DJI,^GSPC" rel="nofollow">yahoo:  wamu run</a><br /><br /></p>]]></description>
<author>infrequent</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151504</link>
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<category>Money</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:34:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by RonK, Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, you are tarnishing the "science" brand by holding forth on subject areas wehre you know less than nothing.</p>

<p>And yeah, thousands of your newly jobless neighbors will surely thank you for bringing down WaMu. Wait til you see the multiplier effect on that one.</p>]]></description>
<author>RonK, Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151521</link>
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<category>Money</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:48:59 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jonathan Golob</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Very well RonK.</p>

<p>I think that science is more than a bunch of trivia. Science is the notion that ideas are proven (or disproven) by facts.</p>

<p>Obviously by commenting this way, you fashion yourself as some financial genius, with me as knowing "less than nothing."</p>

<p>Educate me. Seriously. Tell me what I wrote that was <em>incorrect</em> on this post. Should be easy, readily easy, to disprove the few meager statements I made here--if I'm the big fool you fashion me to be. Argue with facts, not insults and we'll all be impressed. </p>

<p>If you seriously believe that <strong>I</strong> brought down WaMu, then you are perhaps too big of an idiot to even put together a rational or empiric argument. I've laid out my case, repeatedly, citing facts, other analysis and even the plain old numbers on what happened with WaMu. Prove. Me. Wrong. Or, fuck off. </p>

<p>Believe me, I'm more than a little concerned what this "sale" of WaMu will mean for the local economy. I'm also more than a little concerned about how expensive and ineffectual the bailout plans seem to be.</p>

<p>But, hey, let's go with your plan of maintaining ignorance and stupidity. The score today? I attempted (successfully, I think) to explain the multiplier effect concept. You ran your big fucking mouth, whining about me. Who did more to help out?</p>]]></description>
<author>Jonathan Golob</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151544</link>
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<category>Money</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:12:04 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Cascadian</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, don't bother. RonK's little more than a troll. </p>]]></description>
<author>Cascadian</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151588</link>
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<category>Money</category>
<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:32:32 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The bailout is a very very very bad idea.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/wheres_the_multiplier_effect_in_this_bai#c1151950</link>
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<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:15:33 -0800</pubDate>
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