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McCain, Obama Set Joint Sept. 11 Appearance:

The rancor of the presidential campaign will come to a pause on Thursday as Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama jointly visit Ground Zero, the former site of the World Trade Center, in New York City. It will be the seventh anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attack.

“All of us came together on 9/11 - not as Democrats or Republicans – but as Americans,” the pair said in a statement, the first the two campaigns have ever issued together.


Because everything is political (down to a pair of shoes), we must ask the only question that matters: who benefits more from this performance? My guess: Obama.

Comments (30)

1

"ask the only question that matter"

Yes, leave it up to Seattle Leftists to spoil the event for all.

Posted by John Bailo | September 6, 2008 11:57 AM
2

John, it's just Charles; he speaks for himself. You should know not to give him so much credit.

Posted by David | September 6, 2008 12:02 PM
3

Does anyone have some bugspray?

Posted by Madashell | September 6, 2008 12:06 PM
4

Charles Mudede speaks for me far more than a half-assed troll and a gullible biter.

Posted by elenchos | September 6, 2008 12:19 PM
5

If we are lucky there will be a repeat performance.

Ugh. This country is gross.

"We were all americans on that day"

go fuck yourselves.

Posted by patrick | September 6, 2008 12:26 PM
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Guess? WTF? Try "faith" -- as in blind.

A side by side appearance at ground zero on 9/11 benefits McCain, the warrior, not Obama, the man of diplomacy, nuance, complexity, post racial post modernism and overall superior "policies" on an overall superior and very intellectual plane.

"Illinois intellectual" versus "military man"...that's worth emphasizing for sure.........

Posted by PC | September 6, 2008 12:30 PM
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PC nailed it

Mc Cain has worn the uniform - neither Biden or Obama can match that.

As was typical in the era, Biden was a student dodger. My dad almost got by the same way, but they drafted him right out of college, SFO State, just blind luck the sage zone Navy was taking draftees so he lived by not going to the war in the jungle. Telling the story he always says thank God - and he is not a church guy at all.

If Mc Cain people are smart - he will wear his Navy braid - and at his officer level it is pretty impressing - dark blue and lots of god and service medals, he will look like like - " the hero" ... from a movie set ...

Maybe, of course, Biden can give a speech about how he avoided the draft ...

Just sayin'


Posted by The other John | September 6, 2008 12:46 PM
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@7: sure, and then maybe President Bush and Vice President Cheney can come out and give speeches about how they, too, dodged the draft. Jesus fucking Christ, are you really going to play the draft-dodger card? After the way conservatives maligned a good and true Vietnam-era soldier simply because his ideology didn't match up with theirs? I think the last four elections straight have proven that people don't care if a candidate was a soldier or not.

Posted by Paul Constant | September 6, 2008 12:54 PM
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...maybe he can use Dick Cheney's notes.

Fucking flag waving hypocrites.

Hmmm, why'd we invade Iraq again?

Posted by Mr. X | September 6, 2008 12:55 PM
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@7 - Let's recontextualize your arguments in the context of the 2004 election, where John Kerry was the one who wore the uniform and George Bush was the dodger, and let me know how much credit the red-blooded American voters gave Kerry's military service. Hmm.

Posted by David | September 6, 2008 12:56 PM
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@10 for the win!

Posted by snark | September 6, 2008 1:13 PM
12

Indeed, the war hero and draft dodger gambit is so absurd that it can't be anything but a troll. As usual.

I'm finally getting fed up with The Slog. And I didn't think that could happen.

Posted by elenchos | September 6, 2008 1:16 PM
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When you stare at your wiener, it pretty much looks the same, no matter how long you stare at your wiener.

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by John Bailo | September 6, 2008 1:24 PM
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This place needs moderation ala slashdot so the community can mod the trolls away.

Definitely benefits Obama more. With McCain and Obama standing side by side, it will undermine the painting of Obama as an anti-american muslim who is too elite to care. Standing by McCain it will almost come off as an endorsement from McCain of his Americanism. McCain doesn't gain anything in return, since he's already the war hero red meat American.

Posted by Need troll mod | September 6, 2008 2:22 PM
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In general it's always to the Republican advantage to talk about 9/11, since as the party whose watch it happened on, only they can properly understand the dire consequences of dropping the ball on national security. Because they failed to heed the warnings from their own intelligence that preceded the attacks of September 11th, they have a special sense of obligation to prevent future -- wait, what?

Well, anyway, the sure do like to talk about it.

Posted by flamingbanjo | September 6, 2008 3:19 PM
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Posted by Y.F. | September 6, 2008 3:25 PM
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#8

Military service is an ace for Mc Cain, let's face it.

Not important to you and you and you, but it is in play and has been since General George Washington, reinforced by General Dwight Eisenhower in more modern times.

Sorry to interrupt the reveries of the day.

I think this is a National hard core winner take all election, to be decided outside this state, thus, the background seems to be how it will pay in the swings.

Kerry should have refuted in fury in 30 minutes the swift boating. All agree it was a horrid mistake for him to seem meek at that junction. Remember, same war, but he was not a POW.

Someone mentioned Cheney and Bush - They are not on the ballot - neither is in this election, and absentia just might be growing stale with independants and low info voters ... has been used a lot for 17 months now.

As the campaign really rolls it will Mc Cain vs. Obama eye to eye. I am betting on Obama, but with no delusions or at least less assumptions.

It will be close and dirty and costly - thank god Obama has the cash flowing in.

Biden sounds good on the stump - good cadence, lots of energy, rolled sleeves and no tie.

Posted by the other John | September 6, 2008 3:27 PM
18

The thought of the security that will be in force at such an event makes me laugh. That will be the real show.

Posted by mikeblanco | September 6, 2008 3:43 PM
19

Somebody broke SLOG.

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | September 6, 2008 5:52 PM
20

john bailo reminds me that the internet grew out of our need seated need to complain.

Posted by scary tyler moore | September 6, 2008 5:55 PM
21

whoops. deep seated need to complain.

Posted by scary tyler moore | September 6, 2008 5:56 PM
22

Is it worth pointing out that the second most deadly incident of terrorism on American Soil was carried out by a right wing anti-federal not job who's believes were not so different from those of the party the Ms Palin's husband has definitely belonged to and which Ms Palin herself has probably participated in.

Posted by kinaidos | September 6, 2008 6:11 PM
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if we were to turn 9/11 into yet another militaristic holiday? Another reason for the people who spent their years in the military working behind a desk or making pornography, to put on their girdles, squeeze into their old uniforms, and proceed to bore us with their stories about what they did in "defending us"?

Yes, it's the new welfare state, but that doesn't mean we can't celebrate it!

Posted by Mrs. John Bailo | September 6, 2008 6:44 PM
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if we were to turn 9/11 into yet another militaristic holiday? Another reason for the people who spent their years in the military working behind a desk or making pornography, to put on their girdles, squeeze into their old uniforms, and proceed to bore us with their stories about what they did in "defending us"?

Yes, it's the new welfare state, but that doesn't mean we can't celebrate it!

Posted by Mrs. John Bailo | September 6, 2008 6:45 PM
25

John Bailo and PC need to hookup and form a murder-suicide pact. The world will be a better place for it.

Posted by lol | September 6, 2008 9:36 PM
26

Charles,

All is political except love.

If one stops loving and is alive and cogent, one is no longer human but an irrational animal.

Posted by lark | September 6, 2008 11:18 PM
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Charles,

All is political except love.

If one stops loving and is alive and cogent, one is no longer a rational human but an irrational animal.

Posted by lark | September 7, 2008 1:36 PM
28

Charles,

All is political except love.

If one stops loving and is alive and cogent, one is no longer a rational human but an irrational animal and acts only in self-interest.

Posted by lark | September 7, 2008 1:39 PM
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It's easy to see why a lot of people would prefer there to be no commemoration of 9/11. It was an unpleasant reminder of how much how many people want to see Americans dead. They don't care what party the dead Americans belonged to, or what their personal belief systems were. They just want us dead, the more the merrier.

Bill Clinton, as President, could have had Osama bin Laden for the asking from the Sudanese. He didn't want him, because (in part) he was nervous about how it would play in the press. The 9/11 hijackers were not only not nervous about the press, they WANTED it to play, because they knew it would spread fear.

Anyone who can't bear to see 9/11 commemorated and have its story retold, has fallen victim to the fear that the terrorists of that day intended.

Posted by Seajay | September 7, 2008 10:51 PM
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Actually, Seajay, what we find uncomfortable is seeing the Republicans flogging 9/11, year after year, and trying to ride to the White House on the backs of 2,000 corpses.

Posted by Greg | September 8, 2008 10:09 AM

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