Slog - Comments on Slog Steel Cage Match! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2 The liveblog is below, but first, if you haven't already, acquaint yourselves with our debaters: In the left corner, debating in favor of Barack Obama, Will Erdmann, 26, a concierge at the Best Western Executive Inn in downtown Seattle. He goes by "Homo Will" in the comments. And in the right corner, debating in favor of John McCain, will be Larry Kaye, 48, son of an Army infantryman, uncle of a Marine, employee at a non-profit cancer research center in Seattle. He goes by "lark" in the comments. Here we go:... Copyright 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:00:26 -0800 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:46:46 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by angelika ah, what a great way to spend the last hour at work!

]]> angelika http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149727 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149727 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:05:26 -0800 Comment by 4:11 Zzzzzzzzzz.

]]> 4:11 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149743 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149743 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:12:10 -0800 Comment by Mr Fuzzy Will is sexy AND a fast typist!

]]> Mr Fuzzy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149754 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149754 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:17:31 -0800 Comment by angelika i suggest we all buy will a drink this friday during the debate that I hope follows through.

Will, you are amazing

]]> angelika http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149762 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149762 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:22:23 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149769 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149769 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:28:39 -0800 Comment by jackie treehorn Nice idea, but yawn.

]]> jackie treehorn http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149770 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149770 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:28:50 -0800 Comment by brian yo fuck you guys, this sucks! you never approve any of my comments. maybe they aren't getting through cuz my internet sucks, but i'm gonna go ahead and blame you

]]> brian http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149780 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149780 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:37:49 -0800 Comment by mackro mackro I know I said this on the previous thread but especially given today's news, Larry should be given major underdawg rep.

]]> mackro mackro http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149791 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149791 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:50:07 -0800 Comment by yucca flower Palin doesn't need qualifications, she's popular.

]]> yucca flower http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149794 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149794 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:53:26 -0800 Comment by jesus christ I have to say that Larry was a pretty weak McCain supporter (Roe v. Wade and Sarah Palin, for example) and also not as technically savvy as Will. Next time, get a young republican who can keep up with things...

But Larry was a nice guy. He'll probably vote Obama by the time the election rolls around.

]]> jesus christ http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149806 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149806 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:01:58 -0800 Comment by Catalina Vel-DuRay John McCain is no longer ready to be President. Simply put, he's a weak old man who is in failing health, and knows it. He just wants this last chance at immortality. It's really quite sad, when you think about it.

Sarah Palin, on the other hand, lacks the intellectual capacity to be President, or even Vice-President. It would be like making me Vice-President.

]]> Catalina Vel-DuRay http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149809 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149809 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:04:02 -0800 Comment by w7ngman xxxxxxxxxxxx

]]> w7ngman http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149812 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149812 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:04:36 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi Next time bring the crazy. Reasonable people make for a boring debate.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149813 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149813 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:04:47 -0800 Comment by Balt-O-Matt Wait. I said that Ugly Betty was on tonight. I'm totally a day off.

]]> Balt-O-Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149814 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149814 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:04:59 -0800 Comment by Vasya This looks like it was a steel-cage pillowfight.

]]> Vasya http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149816 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149816 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:06:30 -0800 Comment by Homo Will Hey, thanks for everything guys. I wanted to get into a more in-depth debate, but poor Larry just couldn't keep up. If we do a steel cage match again, and the republicans want a rematch... I'll defend the title TO THE DEATH!

]]> Homo Will http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149821 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149821 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:11:38 -0800 Comment by stacked_deck @10 - yes, the deck was stacked **chortle**

]]> stacked_deck http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149826 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149826 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:13:53 -0800 Comment by Greg It's weird that the example screenshot for the widget has text that's all in Latin.

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149827 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149827 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:14:38 -0800 Comment by masterblaster Two men enter. One man leave. Them's the rules of Thunderdome.

Extend the cage match to over an hour, don't allow comments for at least the first 30 minutes so the cagers can get some statements across, and then find a republican who has something to say about mccain...

]]> masterblaster http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149834 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149834 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:20:06 -0800 Comment by Original Monique Good job Homo Will! And I will vote Obama, not just because he's better..but so that you and your partner can acually have some civil rights.

Larry, be a dear, and really look to your conscience. Obama's experience can be made up for with a good cabinet and VP (which he has). Also, he has proven to have good judgement. McCain's bigotry cannot be negated in any way, and is only exacerbated by Palin as a VP choice.

Larry, vote for civil rights! Please, do it for me, and my female friends, do it for our gay friends. Damnit, don't be a fool!

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149839 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149839 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:23:35 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi @18,

That looks like Lorum Ipsum to me. It's placeholder text.

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149846 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149846 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:31:18 -0800 Comment by formerly OR Matt I really really doubt McCain feels that strongly about his parties dogma ... it's mostly to get him elected and past the party hardliners.

Still, doesn't mean I trust him ... McCain claims to have been trying to change the direction of the party since he entered politics. I MIGHT give him some credit for it, what the hell do we know. McCain is old, has been around forever has gone through the conflicts and changes of a typical life, who really knows if he truely is a "good guy". However, if he is or was being sincere, I got the feeling that his party is using him to squeeze the last cent out of the piggy bank with respect to this country, and that is really sad.

The country deserves better than that.

]]> formerly OR Matt http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149854 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149854 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:37:03 -0800 Comment by Julie in Chicago this was a good idea, and Larry is a good sport for agreeing to it... but... it was boring. I know plenty of Republicans that would fight like a dog in a debate like this, which is I think what this needed to be interesting.

]]> Julie in Chicago http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149933 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149933 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:24:26 -0800 Comment by lark Everyone,
Whoa! That first "Steel Cage Match" was intense. First of all, thanks to Will and Eli. Whew! Just glad to make it out of there alive. I felt like a fucking fly on wallpaper. First swatted and then painted over. Will "won" free and clear. But, I think the real purpose of debate is to learn. I learned something that's for sure. I need to type quicker and prepare to be assaulted by several questions all at once. I have to admit THAT distracted me more than anything else. Wow. Intense.

]]> lark http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149977 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1149977 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:10:45 -0800 Comment by Catalina Vel-DuRay Lark, darling - I thought you did a very nice job, but I think your ultimate defense - Obama is not ready - is at best a flawed argument.

We've had what - Forty-three presidents? None of them were ready. All of them would doubtless admit that in hindsight.

Perhaps McCain was ready, at one time in his own mind, but no longer: He's too old and too tired, and trying too hard. For evidence, consider Sarah Palin: Her selection was probably the most desperate move any candidate has made in the life of the republic. And look where it got him.

Sorry, McCain/Palin just doesn't cut it.

]]> Catalina Vel-DuRay http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150000 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150000 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:11:35 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle On behalf of all Wills, I thought Homo Will did a great job!

Kudos for slaughtering the Socialist Republican!

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150021 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150021 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:55:49 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle and I'll buy you a drink at the 43rd District Dems debate watch party at Spitfire this Friday, Homo Will!

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150023 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150023 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:59:08 -0800 Comment by GrammarCop Nicely done, Will! But note to SLOG: It seems Larry is more of a moderate than a conservative. Maybe there should be a litmus test for Steel Cage combatants. ;)

]]> GrammarCop http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150103 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150103 2008 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:36:13 -0800 Comment by Christy O I agree, Larry was a terrible choice. You should have made sure that both combatants were competant in the format. Made for a boring, one-sided debate.

]]> Christy O http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150175 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150175 2008 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:41:17 -0800 Comment by infrequent i think many mccain supporters are moderates. mccain had to draft palin and change some of stances just to appeal to the right-wing conservative christians. but i think he still has fairly strong moderate appeal. good luck finding a non-moderate, literate person in the seattle area willing to submit to a debate on slog. unless, of course, all you wanted was a straw man republican stereotype to debate against.

]]> infrequent http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150336 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150336 2008 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:55:24 -0800 Comment by Homo Will Thanks for the comments everyone, @ 27 I won't be in town this friday, but I'll make sure to come to the next Slog Happy

]]> Homo Will http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150639 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/slog_steel_cage_match_2#c1150639 2008 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:46:46 -0800