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Season of the Switch

The talk of the post-Palin political world is a new poll that shows white women flocking away from Barack Obama and toward John McCain. (With a lot of related talk about whether none of this would be happening if Hillary Clinton had been Obama’s VP pick.)

But the deeper story here is that so many voters still haven’t made up their minds and can have their loyalties swung around by new events and personalities. This always happens, but it always amazes—especially in this election, which has been going on for like 20 months already. There’s been ample time for everyone in America to tune in, log on, and figure out who best represents their political beliefs. But, as always, a large group of “undecideds” (ticket-switching white women included, but hardly alone) will now end up occupying huge portions of all the politically-oriented brains in America for the next two months.

Theories abound about why it takes some Americans so long to make a choice—they love the attention, they’re procrastinators, they’re busy and don’t have time for all this. Whatever the reason, this is how it’s always been, and this is how it will be this cycle.

So while we all gird ourselves for this season of the undecided, loyalty-switching voter, how about a poll that tries to figure out where the highly influential deciders in Slog-land find themselves these days:

Where are you, people?

Comments (44)

1

I'm voting for McCain because Kerri Harrop is voting for Obama.

Posted by someone | September 10, 2008 10:33 AM
2

obama ftw!

Posted by tiffany | September 10, 2008 10:36 AM
3

Go banana!

Posted by Ziggity | September 10, 2008 10:37 AM
4

it BLOWS MY MIND that anybody even considers McCain.

Posted by Carollani | September 10, 2008 10:37 AM
5

It actually speaks to the political success of George Bush, in that the ability to get even a 30% majority of opinion is quite a feat in today's diverse range of ideology.

Posted by John Bailo | September 10, 2008 10:38 AM
6

@4

Calm down. I'm sure someone is cheating.

Posted by Mr. Poe | September 10, 2008 10:39 AM
7

Any douche, woman or man, that would switch to McCain because they're still carrying a torch for Clinton fully deserves to live in the fucked up country this will be if he wins. Case closed.

Posted by Shove it | September 10, 2008 10:40 AM
8

Love #3's comment.
Ralph Wiggum for President
"I'm Ralph Wiggum and I'm a good boy."

Posted by bucket | September 10, 2008 10:40 AM
9

You people who are leaning McCain... WTF is wrong with you?

Posted by Anne | September 10, 2008 10:40 AM
10

Ok, I would understand if Slog were being raided by McCainiacs from Google News Alerts, but in the first 8 minutes of the poll, 15 of 54 are "leaning" McCain?

Is that just the PC/PUMA crowd that trolls Slog?

Posted by lostboy | September 10, 2008 10:42 AM
11

I vote anti-poll, dammit! First they tell me I'm not allowed to comment, then there's a movable type error every time I reload. Hate.

Posted by leek | September 10, 2008 10:44 AM
12

Ok, I'm assuming that 15 votes = 15 readers.  I think Poe @6 may have the real answer.

Posted by lostboy | September 10, 2008 10:44 AM
13

cintra wilson on salon has a good piece up on why women have no biz voting for palin.

personally, i dont think any pro choice women would vote for palin and old man mccain and it seems that those were the base clinton voters, and there is no way theyre going to go to the extreme right.

however, i think that there were a bunch of pro lifer types and light-republican types who were willing to vote for clinton because she was a woman, but now that they have a candidate that is a pro life rep theyre going with her.

Posted by SeMe | September 10, 2008 10:48 AM
14

In my opinion, the reason these "undecideds" switch so easily is because they do not vote on policy, which doesn't change much. Unfortunately a huge subset of the population votes on "character", which can be easily influenced and shaped by the opponent and media. They're not so much undecided as they are voting on non-policy issues.

That's really unfortunate, since the President isn't supposed to be the moral arbiter for the country; unfortunately too many people think it is.

Posted by opinion | September 10, 2008 10:51 AM
15

The stupidity of the American public never ceases to amaze me.

I'm with @7... You wanna elect that douchebag? Go for it. I'll be on my way to Aruba to laugh my ass off while I watch this shithole implode!

Posted by Queen_Of_Sleaze | September 10, 2008 10:54 AM
16

these percentages are concerning because this is a democratic state with a poll provided by a liberal publication.

(destroy the red states)

Posted by tiffany | September 10, 2008 10:56 AM
17

Investigative journalists from the Seattle Times have examined evidence that confirms the low ethical standards of Republican politician Sarah Palin, and that again questions presidential candidate John McCain's vetting of Palin as a vice presidential candidate.

Twenty-year-old documents from Al Capone's secret vault, recently discovered and opened during the demolition of a landmark Denny's restaurant in Ballard, a neighborhood north of downtown Seattle, show that Palin repeatedly engaged in unpatriotic and unethical behavior.

Seattle Times reporters were allowed by Geraldo Rivera to show the documents to an unbiased professor of Critical Radical Race Theory at the University of Washington who said, "Game over. Huffington and Goldstein proved that (Palin) hatched John Edwards' love child, and she bounced back. But this is worse. Not even the whitest woman in America crawls back from a bombshell like this. Stick a fork in her. She's done. She's toast." (Huffington and Goldstein are unbiased and respected Internet journalists.)

An unbiased professor of Critical Rad Dyke Hairy Womyn Studies at the University of Washington said that "Palin is an affront to everything we've fought for since Seneca Falls. These documents prove her unfitness to lead or to follow, and we know the documents are authentic and the charges against her, ugly as they are and as she is, are true. Daily Kos said so. Debate's over."

Unbiased public servants viewed the newly discovered document dump. King County Executive EnRon Sims wisely observed that "you can put lipstick on a pit bull, but it's still a mad-dog pit bull. Yesterday two pit bulls mauled a lovely old woman in my county. We had to put those bad boys down. Think about it."

Seattle's green mayor Greg Nickels said, "(Palin's) nutty. She's slutty. She's un-American. This stuff from Ballard proves that mean old McCain needs to pack her back to Alaska. Pronto. Before she kills the planet."

Unbiased media professional Keith Olbermann, more in sorrow than in rancor, reflected solemnly on the collapse of Palin's candidacy: "Remember those hot pix of foxy Sarah in stiletto heels and a teensy tiny bikini, packing an assault rifle, blowing away a polar bear cub? Those pix discovered by unbiased journalists way up north? Well, just wait'll you get a load of what the Seattle Times dug up way out west. Blow your mind. This Palin babe's got the ethics of swine and slime."

The documents clearly show that for at least three weeks in 1988 or 1989, Sarah Palin didn't sort. Recyclable plastics in her garbage were willfully and promiscuously comingled with the other kind.

"This is the brokeback straw. This is unconscionable," said Senator Barack Obama, Democratic candidate for president. "First she impugned me and my important work as a radical community organizer for ACORN. Now, by her willful disregard for personal integrity, she inpugns citizenship. Can we lift ourselves up from Palin's gutter politics? Can we rise above her disrespect for fundamental decency? Can we send Little Miss Wasilly, clinging bitterly to her Christianist God and her guns, back to Matanooska Moosedrool where she belongs? Yes we can! Yes we must!"

Respected politcal scientist James Carville, adviser to beloved president Bill Clinton, noted that "this is what you get when you drag trash through a trailer park. This proves for all time that the (expletive deleted) Republicans are flat (expletive deleted) nuts. And what's with that Palin-Capone connection? The skank's all mobbed up, just what we always get from the Republican culture of corruption. Now if we just had a clean Clinton administration back in the White House, either Clinton, our long national nightmare would be over. Even (expletive deleted) Bush is (expletive deleted) better than this."

Mean old McCain could not be reached for comment.

Posted by Rocktober Surprise | September 10, 2008 10:58 AM
18

This white woman is standing strong for Obama. I've processed my Palin reaction and I'm okay with hating the slime bucket Republican operatives who are trying to win another term for an intellectually exhausted party.

I am choosing to only believe the results on November 4. Polls be damned until then. Manufactured drama from the 24/7 news cycle. None of it matters til the ballots are in.

Posted by Suze | September 10, 2008 11:01 AM
19
Theories abound about why it takes some Americans so long to make a choice—they love the attention, they’re procrastinators, they’re busy and don’t have time for all this.

I usually just chalk it up to idiocy.

Posted by w7ngman | September 10, 2008 11:02 AM
20

Furthermore, anyone that reads and enjoys this blog and is also voting for McCain probably is dealing with some serious cognitive dissonance and/or has major daddy issues.

Posted by w7ngman | September 10, 2008 11:06 AM
21
Theories abound about why it takes some Americans so long to make a choice—they love the attention, they’re procrastinators, they’re busy and don’t have time for all this.
People lie to pollsters. Posted by josh | September 10, 2008 11:09 AM
22

After the media deluge since, what? Mid 2006? Anyone who is still undecided needs to get a fucking clue.

Posted by Greg | September 10, 2008 11:10 AM
23

That's ONE poll taken a couple days after the RNC...I wouldn't fall apart because of it.

Posted by michael strangeways | September 10, 2008 11:14 AM
24

People are still undecided because Americans are selfish, apathetic, & DUMB.

Posted by Mike in MO | September 10, 2008 11:15 AM
25

Why did you even post this poll? Of course someone is going to fuck with it. 34% of Slog readers decided or leaning McCain? Yeah, right.

Here's the actual breakdown:

Decided McCain: John Bailo, You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me, that douchebag who said he liked Obama but wouldn't vote for him because he was part of the 5% of families that would get their taxes raised

Leaning McCain: PC (only because Decided: Hillary is not an option)

Decided Obama: Anybody with a brain (i.e., everybody else)

Posted by Julie in Chicago | September 10, 2008 11:17 AM
26

@17

Delightful!

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | September 10, 2008 11:21 AM
27

Well whoever fucked with it, they are a total buttface!

Posted by i hate obama supporters club USA | September 10, 2008 11:22 AM
28

The immortal line from PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE keep popping into my head: "You Earth People are stupid! STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!"

Posted by Andy Niable | September 10, 2008 11:22 AM
29

Voting for McCain is morally and intellectually indefensible. It doesn't matter how deep or longstanding your commitment to (once) core Republican values is. McCain doesn't represent them AT ALL; he in fact is a slap in the face to Republican decency as well as American decency. He is an indecent man, and the worst presidential candidate ever offered on a major ticket.

Posted by Fnarf | September 10, 2008 11:23 AM
30

I think there are more right-wingers reading Slog now than before The Stranger Team went to the Rep. Convention and got quite a bit of attention. Googlers following leads have come here and not all of the recent wacko comments are from the usual trolls and their sock puppets.

As for continued undecideds: In the 2000 election there were people claiming to be still undecided betwen Bush and Gore the day before the election. They weren't undecide, they were idiots.

Posted by inkweary | September 10, 2008 11:25 AM
31

Yeah, well, neglect public schooling for a decade or two and you get an easily misled public. Dems did shit to fix it and are reaping the reward now. A teachable moment for the party.

Posted by tomasyalba | September 10, 2008 11:27 AM
32

i've had this terrible, sinking feeling ever since i saw a woman on the daily show say in earnest that she likes sarah palin because "she makes you think ANYBODY can be president." never underestimate the stupidity of everybody.

Posted by brandon | September 10, 2008 11:31 AM
33

Is there a roach motel equivalent for trolls?
This election business is about to make my head explode. If people are actually stupid enough to be lured by the Cult of Palin and she ends up in the office across the street from the White House, then the America I've grown up in will be no more.
I have dual citizenship, and my husband and I work in high-demand occupations. I will have no qualms getting my family the hell out of here, to a place where we'll have health care and my child will get a better education, no less. I'd rather not - this is our home - but my kid will have no future here if the repukes stay in power.
I've sent $$ to the Obama campaign, will send more to 527s if they jump in to fight. But ultimately Obama and Biden need to hit back hard. This election is getting dirty, no sense in avoiding the fight.

Posted by Madashell | September 10, 2008 11:34 AM
34

Decided: La Riva

Posted by EmmiG | September 10, 2008 11:37 AM
35

I am going to vote for McCain because America needs more back alley abortions! I mean, how exciting to walk down Pine street and see a young teenage girl with crochet needles sticking out of her twat because of some "Doctor" who was going to get rid of that unwanted child. You know, the child that her father raped her in order to help make.

But the Democrats will never run that sort of campaign against McCain and we know they won't do it.

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | September 10, 2008 11:40 AM
36

I'm probably voting for Cynthia McKinney unless it starts to look like Washington is gonna be a swing state. Really my primary strategy is to vote for whomever is most likely to make sure Bush/Cheney/et al end up in prison. Fuck burying the hatchet like Pelosi did, I'm out for justice. Investigate electronic voting fraud allegations from 2000/2004. Investigate fabricated documents that led to the Iraq war. Investigate the lack of diligence in acting on pre-911 intelligence. Investigate the massive mismanagement of the Iraq war (both financially and strategically). Investigate prosecute indict impeach punish, I don't care if it creates a rift between the two parties. The only thing that keeps regular people from breaking the law is fear of prosecution and for politicians that fear is nonexistent. I hate the idea that an entire political party can be responsible for willful incompetence and illegal activity, but since they are to "big to fail" (like bear sterns or fannie mae/freddie mac) that everyone will look the other way and they'll avoid the consequences. They need to be scared, scared to screw up for fear destroying their whole party, scared to lie or make poor choices for fear of rotting in a cell for the rest of their lives.

Thousands of people died as a result of Katrina due to government incompetence, shouldn't that be manslaughter? If I mow down a little old lady because I'm too dumb to know where the brakes are on my car I don't get off scot free, why should they?

Posted by Super Jesse | September 10, 2008 11:41 AM
37

Anyone who hasn't made up their minds by this point should not be allowed to vote.

Also, the campaign season needs to somehow be cut down to about four months, total.

Posted by dwight moody | September 10, 2008 11:48 AM
38

I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that many Americans consistently vote for the GOP ticket for the simple reason that they firmly believe the longer they remain in power, the sooner they'll be magically teleported to Heaven.

For them, fucking things up down here is just a means to an end; they don't really give a shit about what happens to the economy, or the environment, or the social safety net, because they're all just killing time until the Rapture.

Posted by COMTE | September 10, 2008 11:59 AM
39

@38: Wow. That is totally true.

Posted by Original Monique | September 10, 2008 12:03 PM
40

I voted for "Decided: McCain" on accident! The radio button is right there above the Obama button. There's no way to change it. I didn't mean it!

Posted by Anonymous | September 10, 2008 12:20 PM
41

@10 It's just John Bailo

Posted by modern day flapper | September 10, 2008 12:31 PM
42

I voted "# Happenings
Free Beer: Volunteer at Fremont Oktoberfest!" ... but I'm not sure it registered ... and I have no idea why the lovelabs and classifieds are the only available poll options.

Posted by RonK, Seattle | September 10, 2008 1:08 PM
43

Fuck Ralph Nader!

Posted by hillpagan | September 10, 2008 1:44 PM
44

I'll lean McCain if I can be in the middle of a Karl Rove / John McCain sandwich!

Posted by You_Gotta_Be_Kidding_Me | September 10, 2008 3:41 PM

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