Slog - Comments on Re: Gregoire Tops Rossi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi Don't believe it. First of all, the SurveyUSA poll identified Rossi as "Republican Dino Rossi." As the recent Elway poll confirmed, describing Rossi as "Dino Rossi, who prefers the GOP Party" gives Rossi a three-point boost--a boost that would put him above Gregoire in the SurveyUSA poll, though still within the margin of error. That's why the Washington State Democrats are suing to force Rossi to correctly identify himself as a Republican--because the label "GOP Party" confuses so-called low-information voters. In June, another Elway poll revealed that fully 25 percent of likely voters didn't know that "GOP" meant Republican, and... Copyright 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:54:47 -0800 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:56:23 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by cdc Rossi's official signs saying "Don't Let Seattle Steal Another Election" - posted all along I-5 between Olympia and Vancouver - should put a dent in that "calm, soothing, and folksy" persona. In a just world, anyway.

]]> cdc http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149408 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149408 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:10:19 -0800 Comment by elenchos Maybe I'm not to sure what the GOP Party [sic] is, but if Valentino Rossi can ride a 240 horsepower motorcycle to victory at Indianapolis Motor Speedway and date the likes of Mandala Tyde and Elisabetta Canalis, maybe he's man enough to whip Washington's government into shape.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149424 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149424 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:15:28 -0800 Comment by wow Gregoire literally deserves to lose. She is horrid on the campaign trail. And like Gary Locke and Mike Lowry before her, she is defensive rather than presenting a compelling case for progressive policies. No wonder people prefer Dino Rossi. God help us all.

]]> wow http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149435 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149435 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:24:08 -0800 Comment by Andrew @3, I tend to agree. And honestly, loosing would be actually good for the Democrats in this state. Being knocked off their pedestal will force the party to actually start to pay attention to the ENTIRE state and not just Seattle.

The only thing is that Rossi is such a fucking prick. But if he wins, it is Gregoire's fault. She has been lackluster as a govenor at best. And Locke and Lowry were more exciting.

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149467 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149467 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:39:03 -0800 Comment by Levislade She really is an awful campaigner, as she was the first time around. How the hell did she win the flippin' 2004 primary, anyway? She sure as shit didn't have my vote. Maybe we're better rid of her for a term and coming up with an actual winner next time around. Not that I don't hope she gets elected, but if she loses that's what I'll tell myself.

]]> Levislade http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149468 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149468 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:39:30 -0800 Comment by Andrew One more item and then I will shut up on slog for good. If you won by only a few votes in an election wouldn't you go out of your way to make yourself into an effective leader? Wouldn't you want to spearhead ideas that would make both sides of the state swoon for you?

What the FUCK has she been doing for 4 years?!?!?! At least Locke chased bats out of the mansion!!!!

]]> Andrew http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149478 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149478 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:43:03 -0800 Comment by wow Dino Rossi prefers the GOP Party, meaning he prefers the Grand Old Party Party. It's so stupid it's funny. There should be a little Homer Simpson logo between "Party" and "Party."

]]> wow http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149548 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149548 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:26:17 -0800 Comment by laterite Gergoire's going to lose. And it's not an "Eastern Washington rubes" vs "Seattle sophisticates" thing. It's a "Not doing jack shit to campaign effectively against the opponent whom you barely beat the first time around" thing.

]]> laterite http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149598 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149598 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:53:01 -0800 Comment by fixo I'm never been a big Gregoire fan. But I watched the debate last Saturday and thought she was spectacularly good--knowledgeable, clear, articulate, well-mannered, hard-hitting but fair, in complete command on each question. By contrast, Rossi was spectacularly bad: stage-managed, dumb, ill-informed, unresponsive, petulant, unpleasant and tricky, like a rookie high school debater. All of his answers seemed canned. He did not once address Gregoire by name or to her face. He stared at the camera and referred repeatedly to the "Incumbent," as though he was alone in the room. "World-weary" is indeed the right word for his persona in this debate. I don't get it at all. I saw him smile once, a thin quick one when the debate was over. Otherwise he was completely unappealing and dour, and I don't see how farming for a living would have changed my perceptions. He may win yet, and Gregoire may indeed be a lackluster candidate overall, but I'd like to meet anyone who switched from Gregoire to Rossi as a result of that debate. On second thought, Erica, would you meet that person for me?

]]> fixo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149623 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149623 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:11:59 -0800 Comment by tiddlywinks Greedy Old People

]]> tiddlywinks http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149665 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149665 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:30:57 -0800 Comment by Greg
In June, another Elway poll revealed that fully 25 percent of likely voters didn’t know that “GOP” meant Republican, and seven percent thought it referred to the Democratic Party.

Dear Lord, are people really that stupid?

]]> Greg http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149689 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149689 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:44:46 -0800 Comment by inkweary I don't understand why the Washington State Dem. Commitee isn't all over this with 10 second ads on radio and TV: "Dino Rossi is a Republican and he's trying to hide it. What are you ashamed of Dino? Why are you trying to fool people by using the term GOP? Is that honest?"

They really need to get their shit together.

]]> inkweary http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149732 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149732 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:07:30 -0800 Comment by Hovno At #1 -- those signs aren't official Rossi signs, those are from BIAW.

Maybe Seattlites are upset by that idea, but it is felt strongly by many people around the State that the last election wasn't as clean as it should have been.

]]> Hovno http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149996 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/re_gregoire_tops_rossi#c1149996 Politics Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:56:23 -0800