Slog - Comments on Plain Dealing? I Don't Think So: A Tough Critic Silenced in Cleveland http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr Donald Rosenberg, the Cleveland Plain Dealer classical music critic who has been covering the venerable Cleveland Orchestra for 28 years, has been removed from his beat. Removing a critic from his beat after 28 years is tantamount to firing him. He's been reassigned to general "arts and entertainment reporter" and the paper is refusing to explain itself, though in Rosenberg's account, he was called into the editor's office and summarily "reassigned" after she accused him of "attacking" the orchestra. It's true that Rosenberg was deeply critical of the orchestra's current conductor, Franz Welser-Möst. It's also true that the editor who... Copyright 2008 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:57:00 -0800 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:10:17 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz What an utterly fascinating you must lead.

Warning, kids : attempting to "write sbout art" for a prolonged period of time will indeed make you this crushingly dull.

Just say no!

]]> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150152 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150152 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:17:04 -0800 Comment by max solomon the gerard schwartz of cleveland.

2011 is too far away.

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150171 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150171 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:36:42 -0800 Comment by Billy the Cid @1: Fuck right off, you cretin.

@Jen: Thanks for this. When the world isn't busy firing critics, it's busy muzzling them. The sadness!

]]> Billy the Cid http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150173 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150173 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:40:25 -0800 Comment by From Ohio The Cleveland Orchestra has been firing many long time employees as well. It is a toxic environment there. The story is not as much the Plain Dealer as it is the orchestra.

]]> From Ohio http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150178 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150178 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:44:03 -0800 Comment by S-Lo That's because the paper name is being changed to the Palin Dealer and their actions and policies must reflect that.

]]> S-Lo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150191 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150191 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:55:14 -0800 Comment by Tiktok Damn--there goes Cleveland's artistic reputation.

]]> Tiktok http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150195 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150195 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:03:01 -0800 Comment by David @6 - You may scoff, but the Cleveland Orchestra is one of the Big 5 orchestras, one of the most important classical music institutions in the country:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_(orchestras)

What a sad, sad read. It's this sort of back-room politics that drags these institutions down, and, along with the depressing lack of new music programming, is one reason why I just don't bother to attend orchestra concerts anymore.

]]> David http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150203 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150203 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:05:34 -0800 Comment by Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Fuck right back off yourself, crybaby. It's dopes like you that make dopes like Jen think they serve some "purpose".

]]> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150232 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150232 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:31:20 -0800 Comment by Billy the Cid Really, Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. You know it deep down inside—you're an idiot.

]]> Billy the Cid http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150248 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150248 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:42:30 -0800 Comment by Joe M @1 & @8:
Yes, well, that's the sort of blinkered, philistine pig ignorance I've come to expect from you non-creative garbage. You sit there on your loathsome, spotty behinds squeezing blackheads, not caring a tinker's cuss for the struggling artist. You excrement! You whining, hypocritical toadies, with your colour TV sets and your Tony Jacklin golf clubs and your bleeding Masonic secret handshakes!

]]> Joe M http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150253 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150253 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:47:44 -0800 Comment by john Ha, like THIS is going to embarrass Cleveland. Let's all go to the Flats! Go Yeomen!

]]> john http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150381 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150381 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:23:10 -0800 Comment by Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz No, Billy, deep down, I know somebody that writes the turgid crap that the (cough) esteemed Ms. Graves writes is an idiot, trumped only by someone who thinks she's not one.

And @10 - oooh, you can Google Monty Python sketches. Isn't he a CLEVER little boy - do you like your rattle? Oooh, can you talk, can you talk?

]]> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150926 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1150926 Arts Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:55:33 -0800 Comment by Sharlet Cowards. Censors. The Plain Dealer never was an interesting paper anyway except for Don Rosenberg's reviews which were written with educational and historical detail and, in my opinion, utterly truthful about the great and powerful FWM. Hopefully the people behind this "change" will have the same thing happen to them (sooner rather than later).

]]> Sharlet http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1152095 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1152095 Arts Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:37:57 -0800 Comment by knwicmh ijmbx lertnphjx zgnbt vyocljbdr xinkp bdolzxft bfzdthqji zlfsmj

]]> knwicmh ijmbx http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1152258 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/plain_dealing_i_dont_think_so_a_tough_cr#c1152258 Arts Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:08:06 -0800 Comment by knwicmh ijmbx lertnphjx zgnbt vyocljbdr xinkp bdolzxft bfzdthqji zlfsmj

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