The stupidity of the electorate never ceases to amaze me. In the words of Lily Tomlin, "No matter how cynical I get, it’s just never enough to keep up."

But maybe this is the way we thin out the stupid people from the herd? They just loose their homes, jobs etc with a McPalin presidency and they quietly die in the streets? It could be a good thing in the long run.

This country is doomed.

As far as voting against their self interest: there is a lot of evidence out there to support this theory. I don't call it voting against their self interest, I call it people being to stupid to deserve the right to vote.

So...McCain has been directly challenged and asked about this in Ohio, he's punted on his answers (promising some answer, but not having anything really to say), and yet voters are willing to accept this in greater and greater numbers.

I grew up in Oregon, in liberal Eugene, and I recall as a teenager being constantly amazed at how often timber workers were willing to vote 100 percent against their interests, in the interests of the folks who held them in a real economic slavery, because liberals were "tree huggers," and conservatives were "real men" or something like that. They didn't realize somehow that they were cutting logs that weren't being replaced, and that were being shipped to Asia for integration and return into products we bought. (Add to that the widespread illegal undergrading of logs that ensured prime lumber was being exported when it shouldn't and at ridiculous valuations.)

On one side, it depends how/where they polled. A majority of people I know who are voting Obama are young and/or only have cell phones or they're without a phone. The rural areas will never vote Obama, even if McCain said he raped puppies. The urban areas, however, are pretty damn active. It just comes down to actual voter turnout.

@16: See above.