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Oh, and p.s.: the Pentagon didn’t even want Palin to make that campaign speech at her son’s deployment. Way to respect the military, McCain-Palin.

Would that be the same McCain-Palin campaign that criticized Barack Obama for what they said was him campaign using his visit to U.S. troops for publicity?

Oops -- make that "his campaign"

She's a loving and giving care-giver.

1. First you criticize anonymous "headline writiers" for their false and misleading attack on Palin for answering a question correctly (IF Georgia was in NATO, then YES we would defend from Russian attack, that's the whole PURPOSE of NATO).

So, it turns out the anonymous headline writiers (who are they btw? Slog? liberals? NYT? MSM?) are theones without enough experience or qualifications to talk about foreign affairs.

Yet another attack on Palin misfires. That does not help Obama, it helps McCain.

Why aren't you condemning this help to McCain?

2. So you correctly criticize her for being wrong (there's no proof she's lying -- your whole point is she's an ignoramus which is inconsistent with lying) on saying the Al Q. that attacked us was connected to Iraq.

Why the fuck isn't Obama saying McCain is the big idiot by picking this woman as VP who says trash like this?

You see, it's really OBAMA's burden to point this shit out.

He's not doing it.

Thus he's going down in the polls.

You can read the NYT today about how he's a gonna get more aggressive.....I'm really tired of reading articles about how he's going to do stuff.

Why isn't the story today his message?

He needs to be out there every day with a hard economic message.

You can read his main TV ad will be about women's pay equity.

WTF?

An ad based on feminism, an ad that does NOTHING to reach the men voters in swing states, an ad that reinforces the old style image of the democratic party as identity group based, an ad that says nothing about the real stakes (the entire American economic future for everyone) and instead focuses on a concern of one segment only?

Obama's messaging sucks.

Go read EJ Dione, it's all in there.

And please just take the focus off Palin.

No one ever lost because they made a bad VP pick.

Quayle was an idiot. Agnew was a crook. It does not matter. Capiche?

Hmm, I thought the same thing when I read this but I think we're gonna need better than this. This is the same "mushroom cloud" kind of tactics they used to sell the war. The last line you quoted is their out:"But it is widely agreed that militants allied with al-Qaeda have taken root in Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion."

But the new Obama ad does good with John I Don't Understand the Economy McCain and his corporate tax cuts. The can't do email thing isn't gonna swing the over 40s, though.

Thank god Anne Kornblut organized her article so it's clear that Palin was not referring to the al-Qaeda terrorists who have since materialized in Iraq, but the non-existent ones in Iraq before the invasion.

Is that sarcasm? She's addressing an undeployed brigade, so actually, yes, she is referring to the al-Qaeda terrorists who have since materialized in Iraq.

Is there another quote from her that I'm missing that links the original deployment to 9/11?

"No one ever lost because they made a bad VP pick."

PC, stop insulting our intelligence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Eagleton

@4: Fuck off.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=8aa5ac5ef7ebf908d2db6fb9a8902bda

here's the Caribou Barbie song ripped from myspace.

It bothers me, but again aren't there a lot of people that still believe that? Like 50% or something. These are the people that will vote GOP, and they won't let things like "facts" get in the way. Sarah keeps up their beliefs. It's really very sad to watch.

Um, Chet, McGovern didn't lose because he picked Eagleton. He lost bigger, but he was still going to lose big. PC is full of shit, but the statement "no one ever lost because they made a bad VP pick" is correct. Dan Quayle beat Lloyd Bentsen, even though Bentsen tore him to shreds in their debate.

I have to ask...why is he still being deployed? Isn't the son of a major party's VP nominee something of a target? Shouldn't they be yanking him out of there, a la Prince Harry?

If you haven't already, you should read "True Enough" by Farhad Manjoo.

We believe data that supports our view. We bring our biases to what we are reading, and our biases allow us to link to things that prove a hypothesis we've already made.

I attach no judgment to this, I do it too. We are trying to confirm what we already know to be true. Unfortunately we often are only reading and linking to those who share our views so we are confirming what is true for us, but not necessarily what is true for those outside our biases.

Even among commenters here on Slog we have a bias about the value we attach to their comments. If the commenter supports our world view then the comments that person makes are deemed to a certain extent credible. If the commenter does not support our world view, even if the commenter makes a statement we might otherwise agree with we still do not deem it credible.

Our battle at this point seems to be not just about who will be President, but about the very definition of America and what it means to be an American now and moving forward. It is both an exciting and a terrifying time.

@12 Biden's son is in Iraq, too, but you wouldn't know it from the press coverage -- including the corporate mediawhore who left him off the list he made the other night of candidates' children in the military. Because only Republican politicians have children in the military, apparently. Except when the vast of them don't, of course.

@14: No, Beau Biden isn't in Iraq yet. His unit starts training in the U.S. in October and is expected to deploy to Iraq before the end of the year.

This particular lie isn't a lie, because in the Republican worldview, Al Qaeda WAS in Iraq, because all Muslims, Arabs, what have you, are the same. They are all a threat. They all connive to destroy our precious freedoms. Attempting to draw a distinction between Saddam, Osama, Ahmedinejad, Hezbollah, Achmed in Afghanistan, and even the darkies in Hindustan is just beside the point; they're out to get us.

@1,

I thought they criticized him for not visiting wounded soldiers, even though it was the military that asked him not to come.

So, in short, Obama respects the Pentagon's decisions and policies; McCain/Palin don't.

Still a lie, Fnarf, no matter what your "worldview" is.

In their worldview we're all getting raptured before 2010.

We won't support spine-less NO-Bama and will re-defeat him in November !!! Go Hillary 2012 !!!