Slog - Comments on Extremely Free Speech http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech This is so tragic. The ACLU’s infomercial about pot, which cost tens of thousands of dollars to produce, got booted from real TV and now the nonprofit is reduced to showing it on public access. Using a panel format and clap-on-cue audience, the talk-show-style program encourages people to talk about pot. It is quite bland, really. Nonetheless, KOMO billed thousands of dollars in production costs for recording the show its studio, then refused to air it; KING and KONG would air the program only after 1:00 a.m. Today, the Seattle Community Access Network, notable for the lowest production values and... Copyright 2008 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:22:33 -0800 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:25:35 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Trevor The stuff about "marginal tactics" is always a red herring meant to divide people who could be united on issues over social and cultural politics. Never fall for it.

]]> Trevor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1149868 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1149868 Media Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:50:50 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Just broadcast it on CBC and then refer to it constantly to shame the MSM.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150047 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150047 Media Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:35:04 -0800 Comment by Missy Miss **Nonetheless, KOMO billed thousands of
**dollars in production costs for recording
**the show its studio, then refused to air it

Of course KOMO charged for renting out its studio. Why wouldn't they? And why would anyone assume they would air the show just because it was made in their studio?

]]> Missy Miss http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150064 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150064 Media Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:22:24 -0800 Comment by Green and Mean Do not anger the Rick Steves. You would not like the Rick Steves when he's angry...

]]> Green and Mean http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150135 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150135 Media Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:54:33 -0800 Comment by Luke Baggins "Marginal" is not a good word for things like rallies and marching in the street. "Invasive" would be a lot better. "Retarded" might be another good one. Blogging doesn't in a million years belong on the same list with marching and rallying. Blogging is the best form of advocacy because it does not get in anyone's way or block streets. It is 100% consensual unlike being stopped on your way by a march or harassed by some dipshit with pamphlets. They should have just posted their video on youtube. A rally is not as bad as a march through the streets, but the implicit message: "there's lots of us and we have a PA system, so we must be right!" is a shitty one. Rational adults resent having their attention forcibly taken.

]]> Luke Baggins http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150177 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150177 Media Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:43:46 -0800 Comment by Dominic Holden @ 3) Read the linked article about it. KOMO pre-approved the script then changed its mind after the show was filmed.

]]> Dominic Holden http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150202 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150202 Media Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:04:33 -0800 Comment by Missy Miss @6 - It says they gave KOMO the script, and "never heard any objection". That's not at all like pre-approval. If I apply for a job and never hear back about it, I'm not going to blithely assume that means I got it.

]]> Missy Miss http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150283 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150283 Media Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:09:35 -0800 Comment by Donolectic Miss @7 - And you generally pay your hopeful employerd thousands for your job interviews right?

]]> Donolectic http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150751 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150751 Media Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:16:31 -0800 Comment by Missy Miss No, but if I bought a big fancy costume to audition for a play, the theater wouldn't be obligated to hire me.

They weren't paying to have the show put on TV, or even to ASK to put the show on TV. They were paying to make the show.

If they were counting on having their show on KOMO, they should have got a direct, written yes or no answer before they spent that much on it. As it is, they have the show they paid for. They paid for a show, but they're not guaranteed an audience.

]]> Missy Miss http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150763 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/09/extremely_free_speech#c1150763 Media Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:25:35 -0800