Comments on 25 Road Diets? Yes and No

I took a bike ride from atop Kent East Hill to Palmer-Kanaskat State Park on Sunday.

Passing through Black Diamond I noticed that in the new intersection at the cross of Kent-Kangley and 169, they have posted WA State official signs reading "Right Turn Yield to [Bike Symbol]".

Sign on, you crazy Black Diamond!

Fucking Sharrows! They have recently painted them on the AVE. WTF? It's a no passing street- hence the solid double yellow line. When I drive a university express up the AVE I have to wait- more then patiently - behind an old lady that can afford 200$ panniers but not a helmet a 5mph. I hit 42nd and 8th on time. I am ten minutes late only 4 stops later! My passengers miss their transfers, ect. JFC, people aren't going to depend on mass transit if it takes two hours to get home!!! The AVE is a perfect place for a bike lane- eliminate the parking. There are countless side streets to park on if necessary, plus ample bus service. It is the cities cop-out to businesses. They will survive.

After failing to win the hearts and minds with his pathetic trolling attempts, is John Bailo now attempting to fit in by "relating" to the cool kids up in Seattle?

@2: yes, I'm not sold on the coexistence of bikes and cars. I prefer that we develop something I call a Bicycle Topology:

http://you-read-it-here-first.com/viewtopic.php?t=1184&sid=decd0e14f8c87362e553b546a1dae7fa

So what was the purpose of road diets back in 1972? Because that stretch of 45th isn't exactly the best place to bike, and it bottlenecks like crazy.

Brooklyn, or 11th, or 12th, seems like a much more sensible location for a bike lane.

I'm beginning to take a shine to John "Don't Call Me Sir" Bailo. God knows why.

Sharrows make sense when there is actually room for cars to pass. Otherwise the sharrow doesn't really offer the "share" it intends, such as the preposterous situation that Kat points out above.

In West Seattle they have them on Admiral and California (both roads with two lanes in each direction). They're also down on Beach Drive, which is just one lane in each direction, but it's easy (and legal) for cars to pass bikes, as it's just a white dashed line and the road isn't busy.

3 ft is always good. Period. I don't ever want a cyclist under my back duals(tires).

Regardless, sharrows are a cop-out by the city. They want bike friendly lanes" without lawsuit. When they show elimination of parking- on the ave ect. I will be convinced.

FYI, lawsuit implications. Why has Seattle chose to use sharrows? There are many lanes where parking is irrelevent. Take the bus, bike or walk.
Try driving the bus through the height of the farmers market. Most of the people that bus it, live there. The rest out of towners. Make them pay.g
That farmers market is great, but i thought it was supossed to be local. So why do I
see Nevada plates parked in my bus zone??

Sharrows are ridiculous, but removing street parking is EXACTLY the wrong idea. It's counterproductive. It converts city streets into highways, focused on the fastest possible through movement of motor vehicles at the expense of all other considerations -- including bicycles, pedestrians, and businesses. Street parking is an essential buffer zone between speeding traffic and curbside stores. Remove Ave parking and that street will resemble the deadest stretches of Aurora in no time.

I actually like the sharrows. They're not perfect, and as an every day bike commuter I'd prefer separate lanes, but they at least act as a constant reminder drivers that bikes will be there. I feel like i get a lot less of the angry "follow close then speed by" on roads with sharrows.

@6,

The U-District neighborhood plan chose Brooklyn as the primary north/south bicycle route. It's a nice wide street and less heavily utilized than the Ave, so clearly it made too much sense for SDOT.

@10,

And if you think Ave businesses have problems staying afloat now, try removing parking for their customers.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Repeat: sharrows are horrible. In spirit, and in practice. They suck.

thanks.