Slog - Comments on Youth Pastor Watch: Brian Neiswender Update http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda Brian Andrew Neiswender made his first appearance in YPW back at the beginning of June. That appearance wasn't particularly noteworthy and the crimes he's accused of committing don't come anywhere near the worst ones we've seen here at YPW. No one was murdered, no videotapes were made, no sex was had in vans in church parking lots. What was interesting about Neiswender's YPW appearance was the action in the comments. Supporters of Neiswender found their way to Slog and argued that their youth pastor couldn't have done anything wrong because... Neiswender is too good... He is a Godly man with... Copyright 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:32:49 -0800 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:38:52 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Till proven The story you've been waiting for! Stir the pot, ready GO

]]> Till proven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093155 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093155 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:46:08 -0800 Comment by Big Sven *Yawn*

]]> Big Sven http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093159 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093159 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:55:59 -0800 Comment by Mike in Olympia Well, his website bio does claim, "He continually burns a desire on my heart to reach teenagers for Christ!"

He was just reaching these girls for Christ, Dan.

]]> Mike in Olympia http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093160 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093160 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:57:08 -0800 Comment by PopTart Why did I know this wouldn't end happily for his supporters? Of course he hasn't yet had his day in court, but the fact his previous attorney dropped him isn't a good sign...

]]> PopTart http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093161 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093161 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:57:25 -0800 Comment by Jen Dan, you're so meeeeeaaaann!!! He so did not do anything cause those girls who are accusing him are total sluts!!!

Also, both apologize and apologise are correct. I believe the latter is more common amongst Brits. And pre-teen female Baptists from Florida.

]]> Jen http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093162 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093162 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:58:12 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Many non-Christians don't realize that the only way to reach young girls for Christ is up through the vagina.

Still, Florida: he's still in the top 10% for sensible, ethical behavior in that state.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093163 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093163 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:58:54 -0800 Comment by girlgerms lolls fnarf

]]> girlgerms http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093170 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093170 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:02:02 -0800 Comment by Super Jesse Not quite the pinacle of gramatic excellence are they?

Did you only pick comments with spelling issues, or were they all like that?

]]> Super Jesse http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093175 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093175 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:07:59 -0800 Comment by cbc He's pretty cute though.

]]> cbc http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093187 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093187 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:18:54 -0800 Comment by Fnarf If that was so, he'll pick yours next, Super Jesse. "Pinacle"? "Gramatical"? You're missing out a comma there, too.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093189 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093189 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:22:39 -0800 Comment by PopTart @5 "appoligised" isn't the accepted spelling anywhere on the planet that I know of, except maybe in Floriteenland?

]]> PopTart http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093190 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093190 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:23:11 -0800 Comment by dwight moody The trouble is that we are analysing this situation from a reality-based perspective. The pastor's followers operate on a faith-based system in which what they want to believe is much more important than petty things like young girls getting molested.

]]> dwight moody http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093201 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093201 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:32:15 -0800 Comment by Mike in MO I have a feeling "teaching teens about God and His love" = fucking the living shit out of said teens.

All this YPW stuff makes me kinda sad I never fucked a YP when I was a teen. All I ever fucked were other teens. Boring, huh?

]]> Mike in MO http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093211 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093211 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:45:01 -0800 Comment by Super Jesse @10 I realized that as the little barber pole was turning.

Thankfully, I'm not defending the "former" youth pastor. Wouldn't want to be tossed in with those starry eyed bozos dan quoted. Reality is my drug.

]]> Super Jesse http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093245 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093245 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:17:47 -0800 Comment by Jen Number 11 - no, "appologised" is not accepted in most places.

"Apologised" is. Look it up.

]]> Jen http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093246 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093246 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 11:19:53 -0800 Comment by Julie @12. All this YPW makes me wonder whether my YPs were fucking perverts too. I keep thinking back to my teen years and wondering about those folks...

The only thing sexual I remember was an awesome discussion at a ski retreat of sex. There were metaphors comparing sexual activity to a black diamond slope -- once you get going it's hard to stop! Even at 14 I was like, this is completely retarded.

]]> Julie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093296 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093296 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:01:06 -0800 Comment by PopTart @15 Agreed. However, straight from Dan's original post, the girl typed "appoligised (dont correct my spelling)" that's what I was referring to...

]]> PopTart http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093307 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093307 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:12:32 -0800 Comment by Schweighsr Dwight Moody @ 12 is correct. The deeply religious are like two year-olds - if they want it enough it'll happen! They just have to hone those wanting skills....

]]> Schweighsr http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093358 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093358 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:52:20 -0800 Comment by Jennifer 17 - I have to assume she was referring to her usage of an s instead of a z. Otherwise, I mean, why would you notice that you misspelled something, and then not only not bother to correct it, but ask others not to correct it? That's just so...stupid...

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]]> Jennifer http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093398 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093398 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:27:16 -0800 Comment by Vince Did you ever notice that the last ones to figure anything out are the Jesus boneheads.
So fucking stupid. I guess you have to be to believe the horse shit they preach.

]]> Vince http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093405 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093405 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:30:57 -0800 Comment by step by step @19 - I think you're catching on.

]]> step by step http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093586 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/youth_pastor_watch_brian_neiswender_upda#c1093586 Religion Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:38:52 -0800