Chow We’re Firmly in “Pop” Country
posted by August 18 at 14:54 PM
onStrange Maps has a map of the United States divided up by the name people commonly use as a generic term for soda.
I was born in soda country, but Seattle’s definitely pop-centric. Alaska has counties in all three camps, including the Southern tendency to refer to any soda as coke. When I lived in Colorado, I got used to people calling soda “pop,” but I never, ever got used to people who call lollipops “suckers” or bags “sacks.” Those two are just wrong.
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I say "soda pop", but I'm rather affected.
Alaska does not have Counties: we have Boroughs.
You're not going to open up that whole "sub", "hoagie", "grinder" thing are you?
I'm an native PNW'er, and I've always refered to carbonated beverages as either "soda pop" or "soda", but never just "pop".
Soda for me.
When I was really young I said "pop". But then we started visiting my relatives in L.A. every summer, and so I picked up "soda" from them, and that stuck to this day.
I'm a Seattle native, and I grew up saying "pop." But most of the people I talk to on a daily basis these days are transplants, so I've switched to saying "soda" just because it's easier than translating.
I grew up calling it "pop," but now that I have a fancy degree I call it "soda."
But you really have to wonder about the people who call it "other."
I grew up in Indiana, where my friends said "pop," with a mother from West Virginia who said "coke" even though she drank primarily Pepsi products. She used to say to my visiting friends, "If you want a coke, there's some Pepsi in the fridge."
In college, I roomed with a girl from Minnesota who said "soda" with that long Minnesota "O". I picked that up habit, and have stuck with it since moving to Seattle nine years ago. Now I'm the oddball who says it wrong.
I grew up in one of those red counties in central Indiana where people say coke, though I grew up just calling it a soft drink. You can sort of tell that Indiana's the Middle Finger of the South. Additionally, FYI, a lot of folks in central Indiana are descended from Kentuckians who came up to work in the auto industry plants usually based in county seats. Neato.
Ha! Excellent explanation of my family's usage. Not only did I grow up in SoCal where "soda" is used anyway, but my parents were both from Jersey which is even more soda-centric. Good to know!
it's "sodie pop"
and with the advent of 24/7 access to the media, is this even very valid anymore?
Mine's a Scotch and soda, thanks.
i always thought upper michigan was the only place on earth where people call it pop. say "pop" anywhere else and you will be ridiculed for being from a backwoods shithole where people don't have electricity and talk like canadians. eventually your will is broken and you submit to a life of referring to carbonated beverages as "soda". or so i have read.
I never hear anyone say "pop." I always hated that term anyways.
Will including my generic name for soft drinks on my personals ad will make me more interesting? Or less? I'm guessing a lot less. Right up there with "I don't even own a TV."
I say 'soda'. It was an act of defiance when I moved to Denver from Washington, DC- I may have been stuck there, but damned if I was going to use their words.
My mom finds the Coloradan use of the word "sack" hilarious, even after ten years.
The real battle is "bubbler" vs. "drinking fountain". I'm partial to bubbler, mind you.
I'm from Colorado, and I have only ever said soda. I don't know too many people who say pop, so I'm wondering where in CO you lived in, Paul...
I do hear "sucker" every so often though, and I die a little inside every time.
I grew up in the wilds of Eastern Washington saying pop, sucker AND sack. Shameful. I think it was comedian Suzanne Westenhoefer who had some shtick about moving to the Midwest and wanting to die every time she was asked "Do you want a sack for your pop?" when she'd buy a soda at a convenience store.
I'm also from soda-land, although the hard-core townies in my hometown said "tonic," which I guess is just another "other."
I used to HATE the texans that would come into my ice cream shop (high school job) and order a "coke". Then you hand them a coke, and they scream at you "I wanted a Dr. Pepper!" This scene best envisioned with an obnoxious Texas accent. Yup, in Colorado we all said pop. My cousins in Wisconsin - Soda.
I grew up in NY saying "soda" only. Then I lived for a while in Boston where they say "tonic" and I never got used to it. Server: What would you like to drink? Customer: I'll have a tonic. Server: What kind? We have Coke, Diet Coke, Sprite, root beer, orange. I never heard "pop" until I moved to Seattle.
When I was a kid I said "soda" or "pop." Now I say "iced cold beverage" thanks to my college education.
We worship an awesome pop in the red counties, and we don't like federal agents poking around our cokes in the blue counties.
Surely Obama shall bring us together in Unity, but ... what about "the others"??? What are the fuck are drinking out there, Qaeda Cola?
this map will never die, will it?
coke is the word
Grew up in the Northwest, but my folks are from MI and OH, so it was always pop as a kid. The grocery store isles always had it labeled as such as well.
#13 - Never had you pegged for someone who'd put soda in their Scotch. I thought water was the only "correct" additional ingredient? (trust me, I don't believe it matters, but to those that do...)
Alaska is mostly made up of immigrants from other states who come for the jobs. A ton of people seem to be either from Montana, Arizona, or Texas.
Growing up in Puget Sound, I've heard both 'soda' and 'pop' used frequently by other locals. I stick with 'soda' because I think it sounds better.
I grew up in "tonic" land, but last time I was back in the 'hood, I found they don't say it anymore. Another regionalism bulldozed by TV, I guess. Like "sodypop". My SoCal grandfather used to do this carnival barker immitation, "Peacorn, popnuts, and sodygum! Ask yer mother for fifty cents to see the elephant kiss his ask your mother for fifty cents!" When I was eight and he was sixty, we both thought it was pretty hilarious. OK, I still think it's pretty funny, if done with appropriately W.C. Fieldsesque rhythms.
Grew up saying pop (and I'm from northern MN), but now say soda because the pop has been verbally beaten out of me.
The bigger question is: Casserole, hot dish or goulash?
Coke is a brand. At best you can say it refers to a "cola" beverage. But "soda" or "pop" refers to all sweetened carbonated beverages.
I got "pop" from both my father (Portland area) and my mother (Spokane), but then I went to Virginia for college and people literally couldn't understand me, so I switched to soda or soda pop. I say "coke" with a trace of a Virginia accent now, but people didn't use it for all sodas.
I never realized until today that sack and sucker were not universal. What do you mean, you don't say sack? Jesus said sack, according to the OED:
Okay, I grew up with 'pop' and 'bag' in NE OH, but my grandparents were from Shenendoah County, Va, so that explains it. What I've never been to etymologize is their phrase for clearing the table of dishes after a meal---'rid up the table'. Anybody got a clue
Minnesota is "pop" and "sucker" territory. I've heard "sack" used to describe bags, but "bag" around here is pronounced almost the same as "beg."
I was rather taken aback to hear rubber bands described as "binders."
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I'm from Texas, where if you wanted a soft drink, you ordered a Coke.
When they asked what kind, then you named your brand/flavor.
For example:
Kid: I'd like a Coke.
Watiress: What kind?
Kid: Sprite.
Texas is stupid. I wonder how much Coke paid the state.
I agree with the perspective that Coke is a brand, but so is Kleenex & Q-Tip. I rarely say tissue or cotton swab, but that doesn't mean that I'll start to call soda "Coke".
@36. Suckers - yep. I still stay beg instead of bag or begel instead of bagel. I can't break myself of that one.
I used to work with a guy from Boston who asked me to hand him a "rubber" in reference to an eraser. That was a new one for me.
I grew up in Colorado, definitely "pop" in Denver where I lived. I was born in Texas so when we visited relatives there it was "coke" or "soda pop."
What the heck is wrong with "sack?"
I grew up saying "pop" (Near Detroit was a soda chain called "The Pop Shoppe") but my inner-city peers called it soda, so I got used to hearing it.
A co-worker from eastern Kentucky called it "dope."
'rid up the table'
Probably "redd". From Answers.com:
r.v. Chiefly Pennsylvania., redd·ed or redd, redd·ing, redds.
To clear: redd the dinner table.
phrasal verb:
redd up
1. To tidy: redded up the front room.
[Middle English dialectal redden, to clear an area (influenced by Middle English redden, to rescue, free from), from Old Norse rydhja. See rid.]
REGIONAL NOTE The terms redd and redd up came to the American Midlands from the many Scottish immigrants who settled there. Meaning “to clear an area or to make it tidy,” redd is still used in Scotland and Northern Ireland; in the United States it is especially common in Pennsylvania as the phrasal verb redd up. The term, which goes back to Old Norse rydhja, can be traced from the 15th century to the present, particularly in dialects of Scotland and the North of England.
Thanks, sob. That makes so much sense, because that was how my grandma pronounced it, but I just attributed it to her accent and mentally adjusted it to 'rid'. The ethnicity was spot on as well, though they skipped through PA to get to OH.
I come from "pop" country in the Midwest. Thinking when I was younger that this was a purely Midwestern thing (and desperate to shed any and all things which might identify me as a Midwesterner) I worked hard to stop saying "pop" and affected the "soda" instead. So I still say soda now, although occasionally a pop slips out.
MidwayPete, I'd say that in Minnesota, "bag" is pronounced like "bake" with a G (at least some people do). I grew up saying "pop" but eventually migrated to "soda" for the drink. I still say "pop machine" and "pop cans" though.
I grew up around here, but my parents grew up in Hawaii, where they pronounce it as soodahh. I am accustomed to soda pop, just like Mark Mitchell.
I say pop.
But here's something that drives me nuts: A colleague who pronounces all the days of the week correctly until she gets to "Fri-dee." Who does that?
Tonic is a New England term. I was baffled when I first moved to the Boston area thinking tonic was a sparkling water served with gin.
Canada wasn't included on the map, but central Ontario is Soda-land. My brother and I at about age 10 nearly peed ourselves laughing when we heard our Michigan cousins use the term pop, which we used as a synonym for fart.
One more thing: "Sucker" for lollipop? What if the writers of The Wizard of Oz had those Munchkins singing "We represent the Sucker Guild..."?
I grew up in Illinois, where you get a drink from a "water fountain." But just 17 miles north in Wisconsin, you get a drink from the "bubbler." Now that's just foolishness.
First time I heard 'What kinda coke you like? We got Sprite, root beer, Pepsi...' was in Baton Rouge. Been in MN for 20+ yrs now, and I still don't get the whole WI binder/bubbler thing. I've never heard that anywhere else.
coke. sack. lollipop. My people have been in Seattle since 1900, but they're originally from Kentucky, so I guess some things just stick.
I grew up in pop country, but now I say soda. I must have picked that up when the fam moved to Oregon. Even when I moved back to pop country I still said soda.
I guess I say bag wrong. It's never been a sack either. And suckers were a variety of lollipops. The DumDum suckers. Lollipops were the big hard candy round or tube like jobs.
Being Alaskan I remember saying pop and soda interchangably, but finding it weird when people couldn't fluctuate from one to the other. The thing that freaked me out was going to the South and having Coke be interchangable with soda. It's not a Kleenex, it's a flavor!!!
My mom called it sodie, but in the can-of-caffeine-free-diet-coke sense. As in, "Would you get me a sodie out of the fridge?"
Having grown up in Pittsburgh, PA, it was 'pop' and 'sucker' (hey, at least they said 'bag' instead of 'sack'. Hadn't heard that term before moving here.)
They also used 'redd up', along with 'nebby' (which everyone else on the planet calls 'nosy') and 'wush' or 'warsh' for 'wash'. Ah, Shitsburgh- how I do not miss thee.
I too was a CO native until 6 months ago. Lived all over CO, mostly Denver.
I always called it pop.
Until I got made fun of my a Cali friend who said they all called it "soda pop" or just "soda".
An ex-bf from Arkansas said it was always "coke", no matter what the brand.
Now I just say fuck it and order a beer.
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