Slog - Comments on Washington Delegates Party—Or Play Hooky to Catch Up on Sleep http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky Yesterday after the convention activities wrapped, I hopped the shuttle bus to the Hyatt Regency Tech Center, the hotel where the Washington state delegates are staying (along with the Oregon and Arizona delegations). It's 12 miles south of downtown, and it takes at least forty-five minutes to get from the convention to the shuttle departure stop, wait in line, hop the shuttle, and stop at two other hotels before arriving at the Hyatt. But that's better than light rail, which can take over an hour at night. The entire Tech Center complex is packed with hotels of all shapes and... Copyright 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:04:02 -0800 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:06:11 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Fnarf Rabbits in cities are released pets or their descendants, and probably carry disease.

And -- pet peeve alert -- "Kobe beef" is illegal in the US. What you had was undoubtedly Wagyu beef, which is the same breed of cattle as Kobe but raised here, under conditions that don't resemble those of Kobe beef at all.

Yes, this does prove I'm a pedantic dork. I can handle it.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114873 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114873 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:18:51 -0800 Comment by lol WUT beg to DIFFER here That bunny isn't 'cute,' it has straight ears and it isn't morbidly obese.

]]> lol WUT beg to DIFFER here http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114883 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114883 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:27:36 -0800 Comment by Amelia I've really enjoyed the Slog coverage of the Denver convention. It's been the most palatable party convention coverage I've ever been exposed to.

]]> Amelia http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114893 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114893 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:31:03 -0800 Comment by David Wright An hour-and-a-half on public transportation to get to your hotel? Is the Stranger too poor for a cab the whole way or just ideologically bound to light rail?

]]> David Wright http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114911 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114911 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:48:18 -0800 Comment by elva I went to Boston and it was a fun time experiencing the convention and offsite activities. it helps if you love politics because there is so many things to do during a convention.

]]> elva http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114920 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114920 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:53:23 -0800 Comment by Original Monique @1: Is this new? I hade Japanese Kobe beef at the Met a few months ago....

]]> Original Monique http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114929 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114929 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:58:40 -0800 Comment by Jake It's sad you couldn't find a WA Young Dem to talk to, perhaps because there are so few. Amelia has a point; check out the youth data for the WA Dems delegate selection rules. Only three percent of delegates, yet 11.5 percent of Washingtonians are between 17-24.


With the Republican brand being what it is (and with a candidate older than my grandfather) the Dems have an historic opportunity not just to bring out the youth vote, but to bring them into the party. At state convention I felt as though there was a real split between between people that wanted to get young people as involved as possible, and others who were a bit skeptical of young voters. I feel the latter attitude is winning out.


So while I do have a bit of an axe to grind, the data itself is telling. Ideally, affirmative action goals in the party should mandate that WA delegates should reflect our state's population.

From the WA State Delegate Selection Plan, page 40:

Youth (Ages 17 to 24)
(a) Percent in Democratic Electorate and Number of Delegates: 3% /3 Delegates. (Assigned based on factors below)
(b) Percent in Census: 11.5%

]]> Jake http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114936 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114936 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:00:53 -0800 Comment by Nora @1 Whaa? Released pets? That's a wild rabbit.

]]> Nora http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114949 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114949 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:08:17 -0800 Comment by pragmatic @1 Fnarf, actually importation of Japanese Waygu(Kobe) beef is now legal again, as of December 12, 2005. It was originally banned due to the BSE(Mad Cow) scare around 9/11.

]]> pragmatic http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114951 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114951 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:09:10 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle You always could get Kobe beef, Fnarf, there are exemptions to most laws written for restaurants in specific "cultural" locations.

Sigh.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114956 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1114956 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:11:23 -0800 Comment by OhNo Light rail not better than a bus?????

Stop the presses! Will annie be used by the evil anti-rail pro everything bad crowd?

Will we see annie's name next to slimy Sims and that hack McDonald in their next ad?

OhNooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

]]> OhNo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115004 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115004 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:38:47 -0800 Comment by Fnarf @9: I didn't know that, thanks. I stand corrected.

Will, when the law I referenced was in effect, there were no exemptions in "specific cultural areas". You're full of shit. In fact, a restaurateur in Los Angeles was arrested and paid a hefty fine for illegally importing and serving it. The FDA doesn't fuck around.

I'll still wager the beef Annie ate was American-bred Wagyu, or maybe even Japanese Wagyu, but not true Kobe from Kobe.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115006 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115006 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:40:29 -0800 Comment by elenchos Fnarf, you know that the Japanese from the west coast who were put in concentration camps in WWII got sent to Colorado, right? And when released, they either had no property or business to return to, or were too shamed by the experience to go back home. So they settled in Denver. Which means there is a large and traditional Japanese community there.

Just a data point. I don't even know what Kobe beef is. Carry on.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115018 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115018 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:50:53 -0800 Comment by Fnarf The presence of Japanese-Americans in Denver doesn't really say much about whether burgers at the DNC are genuine "Kobe beef" or not, though, does it? Kobe beef sells for about $200 a pound. Think about that for a minute.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115027 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115027 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:55:27 -0800 Comment by elenchos (Well, all I need to know about Kobe beef is that it is 100% pure MURDER)

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115028 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115028 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:56:03 -0800 Comment by pragmatic @12 I'd say you'd be right about the Waygu not really being Kobe, it's pretty hard to come by if you aren't paying $70 for a steak. I'm not sure what the labeling rules are for true Kobe, but something tells me a lot of marketing was going on that was not on the up and up. For instance, at Safeco Field in the Terrace Club section they used to sell what they called Kobe beef burgers a couple of years ago, and now what they sell up there they are calling Angus beef burgers, and they seem pretty much the same as before. But who'd know, since they cook the shit out of them anyway in that section. For my money the Kidd Valley burgers are the goto food at Safeco, but I digress.

]]> pragmatic http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115031 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115031 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:58:28 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball Bunny has the eye of Satan.

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115064 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115064 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:33:40 -0800 Comment by Jessica Another thing to keep in mind, regarding the youth involvement, there is a split between the College Dems and the Young Dems. The Young Dems are the official youth arm of the Democratic party—call it silly/terrible, whatever, that's the way it is. If this gal was aligned with the College Dems instead of the Young Dems, that would only further complicate her efforts to get inside sanctioned events.

]]> Jessica http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115101 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115101 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:00:39 -0800 Comment by Mike of Renton If you're that happy about seeing wild bunnys, come hang out in Renton some time. I see them all the time around Lind Avenue north of Ikea and up on Renton Hill.

]]> Mike of Renton http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115230 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115230 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:39:29 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle @12 - it's not in the law. It's in the override law, which is about importation of cultural artifacts and goods.

You think A B C D when the world is A N B12 except D14.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115312 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115312 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:44:58 -0800 Comment by Fnarf @20, Kobe beef was never a "cultural artifact", and you are completely full of shit. Are your eyes brown by any chance?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115345 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/washington_delegates_partyor_play_hooky#c1115345 2008 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:06:11 -0800