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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

The Prison Card

posted by on August 26 at 12:36 PM

In case you’ve spent all your time watching the DNC: Last night, Jay Leno asked John McCain how many houses he has. McCain responded that he was in prison for 5 1/2 years. He seriously needs to stop with the goddamned prison card. Did he learn nothing from Giuliani’s endless repetition of 9/11?

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1

uh, he is going to fucking win with the goddamn prison card.

And no one is even going to acknowledge how odious that is.

Posted by Mike in MO | August 26, 2008 12:40 PM
2

John, the dead horse: plz to stop beating it. kthxbai.

Posted by Jessica | August 26, 2008 12:44 PM
3

This prison card.... yes it cheapens the whole concept of sacrifice.

"I was a POW in Vietnam" is the new "subject-verb-9/11". A slogan for morons. Works wonders in Flyover/Jeebus Country.

Posted by Karlheinz Arschbomber | August 26, 2008 12:46 PM
4

If time in a Vietnamese prison gives him points is he going to announce Gary Glitter as his running mate? Guaranteed victory!

Posted by levide | August 26, 2008 12:47 PM
5

Afterwards, did Leno give him a handjob?

Posted by flamingbanjo | August 26, 2008 12:49 PM
6

A noun a verb and POW. What a fuck wad. If he had real leadership he would have escaped.

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | August 26, 2008 12:49 PM
7

@1 is right. Why should he stop? He's winning.

Posted by Gurldoggie | August 26, 2008 12:51 PM
8

@7, no, he isn't, and he won't.

Posted by Just Sayin' | August 26, 2008 1:07 PM
9

A true POW wouldn't flap his toothless gums about it. At least Bush was smart enough to dodge the draft.

Posted by DOUG. | August 26, 2008 1:10 PM
10

Leno is SUCH a tool. Where did they get that audience from?

Posted by Grant Cogswell | August 26, 2008 1:17 PM
11

@ 8: I hope you're right, but you better fight like an underdog. After 2004, I will never believe Americans are smart enough to elect the right person.

Posted by Mike in MO | August 26, 2008 1:18 PM
12

Fucking awesome. More, please.

Posted by elenchos | August 26, 2008 1:19 PM
13

But, like, Obama is a celebrity.

Posted by w7ngman | August 26, 2008 1:25 PM
14

@11, good point (you can throw 2000 in there, too), but this year feels more like 1992 to me. I do intend to fight but I know we are going to win this time.

I love my country, and I know we're better than this.

Posted by Just Sayin' | August 26, 2008 1:27 PM
15

@4: you are my new hero.

Posted by Fnarf | August 26, 2008 1:27 PM
16

@4, 15: Well, at least he would get some great campaign songs out of that deal.

Posted by Eric Grandy | August 26, 2008 1:32 PM
17

So, does he get points for learning how to make a shiv and having uncontrollable anger outbreaks that are only acerbated by his dementia (or is it Alzheimer's - Reagan got his about this age)?

Nuh uh.

Fess up to the fact you work for the top 0.1 percent of America and against the remaining 99.9 percent of us who still believe in our core American values of Truth, Justice, and the American Middle Class way of life, John!

Posted by Will in Seattle | August 26, 2008 1:33 PM
18

@1 is right. It's all well and good for us to recognize on a blog that McCain's beating the POW horse is bullshit, but someone at that convention needs to say it, and they need to say it a lot in the couple of months to follow.

On the other hand, it's not that easy, is it? Wesley Clark tried to say a while ago that time spent as a POW does not necessarily qualify one to be President of the United States, and half the country blew a gasket.

Posted by LDP | August 26, 2008 1:41 PM
19

MSNBC (especially Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow) are all over this. They have come out and said how disgusting it is. I expect that we'll see more of this covered in Newsweek very soon.

Posted by elswinger | August 26, 2008 1:42 PM
20

it was his second home.

Posted by infrequent | August 26, 2008 1:42 PM
21

#10, seemed like a standard Leno audience to me.

Posted by w7ngman | August 26, 2008 1:43 PM
22

McCain was never in Prison or a POW cmap.

He spent his Vietnam days lounging by the pool of the HANOI HILTON.

THE HANOI HILTON is not a prison. It's a Five star hotel.

Check out it's website:

http://www1.hilton.com/en_US/hi/hotel/HANHITW-Hilton-Hanoi-Opera-hotel/index.do

http://www.vietnamstay.com/hotel/hilton/

Posted by Liar | August 26, 2008 1:55 PM
23

He's really full of it. And did you notice that he never actually answered the question? Never mind your time in prison or how much ass your father-in-law kissed. The question is straight forward: How many houses do you own?

Posted by Gurldoggie | August 26, 2008 1:57 PM
24

McCain never answers direct questions, @23.

Royalty never has to.

Just ask King George.

Posted by Will in Seattle | August 26, 2008 1:59 PM
25

The prison card is a compelling, moving story. Not to me, not to you but to those undecided voters in all those places we wouldn't even deign to live in. It makes a connection with the gut--it connects with voters. Hate to intrude with reality into the bubble here.

Posted by PC | August 26, 2008 2:04 PM
26

Why is McCain on fucking Leno so much? And the Daily Show? Thirteen times each! OK, Leno's a giant floating turd, but Stewart's supposed to have a clue. Why do these people kiss his ass SO FUCKING MUCH?

Posted by Fnarf | August 26, 2008 2:05 PM
27

That's a joke, right @22?

The name "Hanoi Hilton" is the army's toungue-in-cheek name for the prison camp at Hoa Lo. It's a pretty infamous place, built by the French in the late 1800's to hold and torture political prisoners. It ain't no hotel and McCain really was there for 5 years. Not that it makes him a good candidate, but I'm sure it did suck.

Posted by Gurldoggie | August 26, 2008 2:08 PM
28

McCain killed that. Impressively.

Damn.

Posted by sepiolida | August 26, 2008 2:12 PM
29

@18:

Unless it comes out of the mouth of a fellow former POW, and a prominent one at that (former FL Congressman Pete Peterson is the only former Viet Nam POW I can think of on the Dem side), it's not going to carry much weight, and even then it's just going to play as a pretty bald-faced attack; which of course would be exactly what it is.

Even so, there has to be some way around the "I was a POW - I DESERVE to be Preznit!" meme, just as there was a way around Hillary's similarly couched "I'm a WOMAN - I DESERVE it!" meme.

Posted by COMTE | August 26, 2008 2:24 PM
30

Comte for the win!

Posted by Will in Seattle | August 26, 2008 2:32 PM
31

There was a time when they said Rudy couldn't possibly overdraw his 9/11 credit. What with it being sacred and whatnot. But this man was so slimy that he actually did it. He made 9/11 into a punchline. Can McCain make POW into a joke too? Yes, he can.

Posted by elenchos | August 26, 2008 2:36 PM
32

@27 lol.urdense.uberdense.lol.

Posted by chet. | August 26, 2008 2:44 PM
33

Something tells me that Biden pulling a "Noun, verb, POW" won't work as well as "Noun, verb, 911" did.

Posted by Mahtli69 | August 26, 2008 3:08 PM
34

27, PLEASE tell me you know 22 was kidding, and that you were too?

PLEASE!

Posted by Mike in MO | August 26, 2008 3:48 PM
35

the correct answer is "none". they all belong to my wife.

he will wear the POW card out. obama doesn't need to call him on it yet. my friends, mccain will be hoist by his own petard.

Posted by max solomon | August 26, 2008 4:04 PM
36

There are two reasons, just two reasons why I'm not voting for McCain, aside from the gay stuff, the abortion stuff, and the fact I'm vehamantly anti-war.

1. His policies are terrible and out of touch with what the people want. Your average American doesn't give a shit if their neighbor gets an abortion or fucks other dudes. They have more things to worry about. Like how the fuck they'll ever afford to buy a home and get their kids an adequate education and that their parents have affordable health care. Really, I should stop here. The only thing worse than a McCain presidency would be another four years of Bush.

2. Even without the above, I could never, EVER vote for a man who...well, we all know the story about his first wife. And McCain is endorsed by this "Moral Majority?" I would love to sit down some of those assholes and ask, "Excuse me, but WHAT THE FUCK, WHAT THE FUCK, is moral about abandoning your wife because she is no longer a six-foot tall supermodel?"

Those are the questions we should be asking McCain. And we should no longer be accepting "I spent five and a half years in a POW camp" as an adequate answer to EVERY. FUCKING. QUESTION.

Posted by Jennifer in Chicago | August 26, 2008 4:09 PM
37

34, please tell me that you read 27's response to 22 where she says "It's a joke."

#4 is the only clever one among all ya'll.

Posted by 34, 27, 22, hike! | August 26, 2008 4:13 PM
38

#26 Almost all of McCain's appearances on The Daily Show were between 2000 and 2003 when McCain was still likable to liberals. He used to not seem so full of shit. Leibermann also used to do TDS a lot too before he ran as an Independent after losing the Democratic nomination to Ned Lamont.

Posted by elswinger | August 26, 2008 4:28 PM
39

UGH. So what he is implying is that every man who is imprisoned deserves millions of dollars and around ten houses?

Yes, get right on that one McCain. Even if you only did this for falsely imprisoned men or PoWs you have a LOT of houses and money to give out.

Posted by Johnny Liverwerst | August 27, 2008 7:30 AM

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