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<title>Slog - Comments on The Crazy Old Man Card</title>
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<description>Dan is beating the drum for Obama and/or other Democrats to go on the attack against McCain using &quot;the crazy old man card.&quot; The logic: McCain seems to have been successful at hurting Obama by unfairly accusing Obama of playing &quot;the race card,&quot; so Obama should stop playing nice and start trying to hurt McCain—by highlighting McCain&apos;s advanced age. Setting aside what I think is a somewhat subtle effort, already underway, to do just that through well-chosen visuals in contrast commercials such as this one... ...I have to say I think Dan&apos;s wrong about it being smart for Democrats to...</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:00:51 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by David Wright</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>This analysis is dead-on.</p>

<p>Except, that is, for one quibble. You summarize the asymmetry between race-baiting and age-baiting by saying "elections aren't fair". That's a strange idea of electoral fairness. If there are a lot more old voters than black voters, then a prioritization of the interests of old people over black people is precisely what a fair, democratic process is supposed to bring about.</p>]]></description>
<author>David Wright</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093380</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:11:44 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Vince</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It would be far wiser to attack McCain as a 26 year part of the problems this country now faces. Oil company lackey. Deregulation has lead to one disaster after another. Never did anything about health care. Etc.<br />
If you go after the age, you risk being labeled prejudicial, not very wise when old people ALWAYS vote. Why not instead play up Obama's youth and vigor. Keep him making those net shots. Let people infer the age thing from that. </p>]]></description>
<author>Vince</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093385</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:16:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by fluteprof</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Mainly Obama should not "attack" McCain for being a "crazy old man" because it's inaccurate and morally wrong (at least by my standards).</p>]]></description>
<author>fluteprof</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093388</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:19:06 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by elenchos</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>There are tons of pictures that make McCain look old.  Really old.  None of them appear in these Obama ads.  THAT'S how subtle these, uh, age attacks are.  Subtle as FUCK.  Subtle like the wind.  Phantom subtle.</p>

<p>Pure genius. Or something.</p>]]></description>
<author>elenchos</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093391</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:21:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by apres_moi</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm still waiting for the Dems to create ads spouting off McCain's association the the Keating 5 and S&L scandals. However, he was the only Republicans amoung the other 4 Dems. </p>

<p>With all the Race baiting, the Republicans are two steps away from creating ads directly saying Obama's black or a n&#@!* with WASP men wearing KKK hoods. However, doing that would basically make them lose of their Jewish support with the exception of Lieberman.</p>]]></description>
<author>apres_moi</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093395</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:25:12 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Excellent analysis, Eli.  I'd claim you were reading my mind but I know you'd never pick up something so terribly written :-)</p>]]></description>
<author>Jubilation T. Cornball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093409</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:33:28 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Furcifer</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>#5 beat me to it. Not only is McCain one of the Keating Five, he happens to be running for president in the middle of an enormous credit crisis. I guess one could perversely argue that his past mistakes make him more vigilant, but I think most voters would tend to see this as an indictment of his character, and without his character, what does McCain have?</p>]]></description>
<author>Furcifer</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093413</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093413</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:35:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Obama should not use this attack.</p>

<p>We should use this attack.</p>

<p>Presidents have to be above the fray, not exploding in anger like McCain does when he thinks someone stole his donut that's sitting right next to him on the table, under his "age spotted" hand.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093416</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:36:49 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by josh</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>the other side to this is that by pointing out McCain's age directly, Obama also points out his relative youth and inexperience.</p>]]></description>
<author>josh</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093426</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093426</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:40:34 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Barak G</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this analysis is that it assumes that old people will be offended by the age card. A Gallup poll last month suggested that this may not be the case at all:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/5vhqoj" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5vhqoj</a></p>

<p>Instead, it is very possible that elderly people who feel themselves slowing down may be more open to the idea that someone their age wouldn't be as an effective president as they once might have been. So as long as the card is played with non-offensive subtle perfect pitch I see it as a definite smart move.</p>]]></description>
<author>Barak G</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093433</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:42:25 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by clintonsarmy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>We won't support spine-less NO-Bama and will re-defeat him in November!!!</p>]]></description>
<author>clintonsarmy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093443</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:48:25 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Youth?</p>

<p>Um, according to the Constitution, you have to be 35 to run for President.</p>

<p>Obama's a lot older than that.</p>

<p>Like, more than a decade.</p>

<p>You know, half of that time McCain was cheating on his wife in public with, in DC.</p>

<p>"Experience"?  At what, having lax morals and accepting lobbyist bribes to sell out America's Middle Class? Yeah, Obama may not have that - but McCain has that in spades.</p>

<p>Speaking of spades, did you hear John McCain's favorite joke during the 70s?</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093464</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:03:22 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@10, interesting polling and yet...I think there's a difference between an elderly person being asked about McCain's age by a pollster, and being insulted by extension should Obama adopt Plan COM.</p>

<p>I reckon they could work up a head of steam over age-focused slights about as fast as Af-Ams moved from Hillary Clinton after several coded slights at them from Bill and other surrogates.</p>

<p>It's a matter of degree, I reckon...placid polling question versus emotional reaction to being placed on a virtual ice floe.</p>]]></description>
<author>Jubilation T. Cornball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093479</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093479</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:16:47 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>*I reckon they could work up a head of steam over age-focused slights about as fast as Af-Ams moved from Hillary Clinton after several coded slights at OBAMA from Bill and other surrogates.</p>]]></description>
<author>Jubilation T. Cornball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093482</link>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:18:11 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by flamingbanjo</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe you're right about avoiding direct attacks, but they should feature his neck wattle in every photo they can.   They should make his name synonymous with jowls and wattles and creepy fake smiles.  Wattlegate!  </p>]]></description>
<author>flamingbanjo</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093497</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093497</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:29:38 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by The Insatiable Sulk</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Kelly O and Ari Spool give Fnarf can of Rize, Fnarf drink Rize, freak out, troll out, FNARF BECOME CLINTONSARMY!</p>

<p>CLINTONSARMY WILL NOT SUPPORT SPINE-LESS NO-BAMA AND WILL RE-DEFEAT HIM IN NOVEMBER!</p>

<p>And no, I don't feel like letting it go.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>The Insatiable Sulk</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093574</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093574</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:28:31 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by DJSauvage</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>My Dad, who is a 60+ slightly right of center moderate living in Arizona, is concerned that McCain is too old to be president based on what he knows of other 70+ year olds around him. If Obama can highlight that, without direcly calling old people worthless, it could work. </p>]]></description>
<author>DJSauvage</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093579</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093579</guid>
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<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:31:09 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Catalina Vel-DuRay</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I don't think they they to "attack" McCain about his age, but constant reminders might help. Everyone remembers what a mess Reagan was. And Perot. And Admiral what's-his-name. </p>]]></description>
<author>Catalina Vel-DuRay</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093686</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093686</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:16:27 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Will in Seattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I think the Admiral was younger than McCain.</p>]]></description>
<author>Will in Seattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093859</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/the_crazy_old_man_card#c1093859</guid>
<category>2008</category>
<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:26:04 -0800</pubDate>
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