Slog - Comments on San Diego Comic-Con: Full of Misogynists?

Comment by Bellevue Ave

Bellevue Ave — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:07:31 -0800

actually why would you expect anything less from people that have no semblance of social construct outside of lycra and fighting?

Comment by alex

alex — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:07:54 -0800

Comic book nerds don't know how to act around actual women? Wow. Who would've thunk it?

Comment by Fnarf

Fnarf — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:19:28 -0800

You don't get a free pass to be an asshole just because you're a geeky comics nerd. The first guy should have been escorted off the premises by security, and the instant the second group touched her the police should have been called and the men arrested for assault.

Comment by Brian

Brian — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:20:41 -0800

*joke about how nerds can't interact with females in an appropriate manner*

Comment by i went there. i cashed that check. it was small

i went there. i cashed that check. it was small — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:22:08 -0800

Why touch, grab, hug and kiss when you can slap, punch, slice and dice?

Comment by NapoleonXIV

NapoleonXIV — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:30:04 -0800

Damn, Skeletor's let himself go.

Comment by demo kid

demo kid — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:31:54 -0800

@6: Although I'm really glad that fellow didn't try to dress as Fat He-Man.

Comment by Karla

Karla — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:43:30 -0800

What I think is pretty cool is how quickly the comic community embraced the story (originally written and posted at http://bullyscomics.blogspot.com/), The ISB, Progressive Ruin, Newsarama, and many others have all posted it as well.

If nothing else, the people who are spreading the news show there are more cool, responsible geeks out there than the gropey mouth-breathers.

Responsible geeks know to wait until you get home to furiously masturbate to the chicks dressed like Catwoman.

Comment by vooodooo84

vooodooo84 — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:57:10 -0800

@6 I thought Slade Gordon used to do marathons and such?

Comment by Dr. Savage Mudede

Dr. Savage Mudede — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:00:26 -0800

More than 120,000 people attended Comic-Con 2008 yet, because of the actions of a literal HANDFUL of people, there exists "pervasive sexism in the comic book convention-going community"? That follows.

Comment by josh bomb

josh bomb — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:08:30 -0800

this is easily the best photo on the internet i've ever seen. and i've seen A LOT.

Comment by Breklor

Breklor — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:12:06 -0800

@10: That's a good point but there is still pervasive sexism in comic book culture.

Too often, jerks like these guys do get a free pass from their fellow geeks, who roll their eyes and shake their heads. The jerks don't get invited to the good parties, but they don't get told off, either. Sometimes their victims are too freaked out to do anything in the moment, and bystanders don't do much to help against anything short of full-on rape or general violent assault.

Comment by Ben

Ben — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:13:52 -0800

God fucking dammit, I'm sick of these few huge assholes making the rest of us comic book readers look bad.

Comment by Will in Seattle

Will in Seattle — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:18:43 -0800

I am shocked!

Oh, wait comix fen ... um, nope, sorry, they've always been like that.

Just because they're famous due to G4 covering their do doesn't mean they've suddenly grown up ...

Comment by Karla

Karla — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:25:50 -0800

@14, Will, saying Comic-Con is famous because of G4 is like saying the Special Olympics invented retards and cripples.

Comment by Jordyn

Jordyn — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:34:31 -0800

Man, there are douches like that everywhere. Hey, ever been to Mardi Gras? Or, fuck, a party? A football game? Around a large group of people? At a bar? Socializing at all? Posting comments on the Slog? There's douches everywhere.

Comment by Ben

Ben — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:38:41 -0800

Hey, Paul, I just wanted to also thank you for posting something douchey again. You'd posted a couple of things lately that weren't douchey, and I was getting worried that I might have to stop thinking you were such a douche, but you came through in the end!

Comment by Vince

Vince — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:42:19 -0800

If I thought for one moment they'd grab my ass, I'd be on the first plane.

Comment by Buzzy

Buzzy — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:05:03 -0800

It ain't the nerds, it is the "new people" who are flooding into Comic-Con, and acting like assh*les.

I have attended the last two years, and spoken with plenty of veterans. Most of the people are extremely polite.

Real fans work all year on their costumes, plan to meet up with friends, and wait patiently in line to see the writers/artists/celebs they obsess about. They value the experience.

You think Comic-Con nerds suffer from arrested development?

The d-bags who are showing up just to "check out the freaks and pick up some sluts" are a lot worse. And true to form, they are trying to ruin it for everyone.

Comment by Culture War All Day Every Day No Matter What, No Matter Where!

Culture War All Day Every Day No Matter What, No Matter Where! — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:18:26 -0800

Dudes...it's Comicon. Widespread reports are coming in of recently discovered misogyny at Comicon?!

First, pleas epermit me to usurp your newly inherited role as Captain Obvious by well, pointing out the obvious hilarity of rushing to publish the recent unearthing of misogyny at a sausage party

Second , let me ask, "Is exile not punishment enough that we have to root out the misogynists from within the fringe cultures they hide in?"

What's next? An internet compendium of people who don;t honor their gambling debts?

An expose on adversarial welfare moms who have called CPS on their downstairs neighbor if they leave the laundry in the drier to long or park in their spot?

I mean, say what you want about grown men wiht pontytails who live in Mom's basement and jack off to pictures of She-Hulk. At least they're no cripples hogging up your bus, right?

At least they're not, "Young urban males" selling what is most likely crack outside the townhouse you ju7st paid $1.2m for.

At leat they're not public toe clippers spotted next to the Lenin Statue.

their just men who will never, ever get laid because no woman can ever take the place of Rocket Tits in her star turn in Issue #1356 of Sectacular SpiderFish.

Blogosphere, will there be no social repugnance left at large and unidentified, unindicted?

Comment by Fnarf

Fnarf — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:02:08 -0800

Dumbass sez:

"Is exile not punishment enough that we have to root out the misogynists from within the fringe cultures they hide in?"

Not when you commit crimes it isn't.

Comment by keshmeshi

keshmeshi — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:35:35 -0800

@16,

Yes, and it's long past time to call them out and kick them out.

their just men who will never, ever get laid because no woman can ever take the place of Rocket Tits in her star turn in Issue #1356 of Sectacular SpiderFish.

No, they are just men who no woman would ever fuck.

Comment by Robot

Robot — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:29:36 -0800

The main issue that is raised in the original post is "why doesn't comic con have an official anti-harassment policy?" - it is not "Women get harassed at comic-con." I am a woman, we get harassed everywhere.

I've been attending science fiction, gaming and comic book conventions in a professional capacity for over 30 years. I've had my share of unwelcome attention from fanboys. I have never encountered one who did not back off when told to do so.

Comment by Kat

Kat — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:11:59 -0800

I went to Con 5 years in a row, and honestly, almost all of the people I met were awesome human beings. I am inclined to agree that the real problem is the new blood coming in (for more reasons than just the upped amount of harassment). In fact, the only person at Con who ever touched me without my permission was Billy West, who does not, in fact, have a problem with women.

Comment by Greg

Greg — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:45:54 -0800

Next time, call the police. That will put a stop to this shit real quick.

Comment by Laurie Mann

Laurie Mann — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 11:20:23 -0800

I'm in agreement with Robot. While I've never been to Comicon, I'm active in SF fandom and have been going to cons since 1975. Yeah, some boys act stupidly at cons. Yeah, some girls act stupidly, too. But, usually a "QUIT IT!" works well with people who are misbehaving. That's Step 1, before you go to con security or the cops.

Comment by George

George — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:29:05 -0800

"Second , let me ask, 'Is exile not punishment enough that we have to root out the misogynists from within the fringe cultures they hide in?'"

People *in* the fringe cultures are rooting out the misogynists (and misandrists - yaoi fangirls, don't glomp any real guys without their permission) because we're sick of putting up with them.

Dammit, mainstreamers "exiling" assholes by pointing them at us is half the problem. If it wasn't for the "you're an antisocial creep so you should like comics" attitude, some of these jerks would go to sports bars or rock concerts or whatever instead of SDCC.