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<description>Last weekend at Smoke Farm, several people smoked marijuana and sat around talking about why they weren&apos;t at Hempfest—they were for exactly the reasons you&apos;ve enumerated, Dominic. Hempfest does pot smokers a goddamned disservice. It makes us look like idiots. (And reminds me of this classic from the Onion: &quot;Gay-Pride Parade Sets Mainstream Acceptance Of Gays Back 50 Years.&quot;) So let&apos;s quit the bitching and get right to it: What kind of counter-programming should we plan for next year? Someone at Smoke Farm suggested assembling 100 people to get high on the sidewalk in front of SAM and then wander...</description>
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<title>Comment by Chris</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'd be very curious to see a stoners' math-in.</p>]]></description>
<author>Chris</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103165</link>
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<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:14:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jason Josephes</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Something involving art, yes.  Keep it simple and colorful.</p>

<p>Oooh, Legos!</p>]]></description>
<author>Jason Josephes</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103197</link>
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<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:16:49 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by methfest</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>meth-fest has been going on for years already in protest of the 'other' event. </p>]]></description>
<author>methfest</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103271</link>
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<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:24:59 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by flamingbanjo</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>The only thing liberals hate more than conservatives is other liberals.</p>]]></description>
<author>flamingbanjo</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103273</link>
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<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:25:08 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Greg</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I say hold a letter-writing and phone-calling party, then after about four hours of annoying state and federal representatives, everybody breaks out the pipes and brownies and gets totally baked.</p>]]></description>
<author>Greg</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103286</link>
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<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:26:00 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Suz</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I wasn't able to go this year, but went last year and had fun.  I guess I don't get what the problem is.  A lot of people like it, cool! They can go.  Some people don't like it, cool! Don't go.  Simple.</p>]]></description>
<author>Suz</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103376</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103376</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:37:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by James</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It all sounds like fun to me, Mr. Kiley.  But let's be serious: no Seattleite who smokes pot regularly would think this is fun.  That's why they have Hempfest -- they're doing what they want to do.  The rest of us are just left out in the cold.  My suggestion: try your idea in a less-pot-exclusive city.</p>]]></description>
<author>James</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103412</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103412</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:41:59 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Giffy</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Hempfest is to weed what spring break is to alcohol. </p>]]></description>
<author>Giffy</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103419</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103419</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:43:05 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gurldoggie</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Smokefarm had what, 500 attendees?<br />
And Hempfest had 100,000?<br />
I've never been to either event, but it doesn't seem like Hempfest has much of an image problem if it can attract that kind of a crowd year after year. Smokefarm on the other hand comes across like a small gathering of self-described artists deeply inspired by their own navels. Physician heal thyself. </p>]]></description>
<author>Gurldoggie</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103481</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103481</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:50:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by chaosound</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I don't understand why there is so much anti-Hempfest talk on Slog.  I attended Hempfest yesterday, and it was nice.  The food vendors were selling yummy treats, the wares for sale were cool, and the people were just people.  It was peaceful and nice.  If you don't like it, then don't go.  If you think that Hempfest should take a different direction, then volunteer your time and make it happen.</p>

<p><br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>chaosound</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103627</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103627</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:03:06 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>They should audition all the speakers first, and if any of them (a) have white dreadlocks, (b) pictures of Bob Marley anywhere on their person or (c) utter any of the 100 most common stonerisms, drown them in a bucket. Attendees should be held to the same standard, with additional provisos against drums of any kind, hacky sacks, frisbees, or slack lines.<br /><br />
Put Rick Steves in charge of it, basically. Win over the middle class. </p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103648</link>
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<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:04:46 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Brendan Kiley</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Jettison the Smoke Farm comparison, Gurldoggie—it's totally specious. Smoke Farm isn't a political event designed to push legislators to change unjust laws. Since Hempfest is, it has a greater responsibility to the public.</p>

<p>Hempfest's problem is a p.r. problem for <i>all</i> of us. I don't like Hempfest, so I don't go. But I also don't like the fact that Hempfest is the public face of marijuana users in Washington state. It makes us all look like dumbasses and is counterproductive in trying to convince legislators (and their constituents) that pot smokers can be intelligent, productive people: lawyers and cops and teachers.</p>

<p>Basically, what Fnarf said. Put Rick Steves in charge and woo the middle class. </p>]]></description>
<author>Brendan Kiley</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103692</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103692</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:11:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by John</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Repeat - it is a federal problem - changing the FEDERAL laws - the key - Rick Steves is non smoking leach, called publicity whore</p>

<p>Hempfest is in Seattle - summer fun, better than the block party and free and could get stoned - WOW - Bumpershoot is 40.00 a day now, I think the pot people are doing us all a favor, free digs and getting stoned with thousands of friends, how horrible can that be?</p>

<p>All you main stream pot smokers are an insult to a good high</p>

<p>Curious, what is the mainstream version of good sex?</p>]]></description>
<author>John</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103761</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103761</guid>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:20:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by COMTE</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If'n it's "wooing the middle-class" you're after, then you have to goes where theys is - Hempfest 2009, Bell-Square West parking lot, right next to Coldwater Creek.</p>]]></description>
<author>COMTE</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103794</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103794</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:24:56 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by COMTE</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@13:</p>

<p>I believe that would follow the "sex is like pizza" analogy...</p>]]></description>
<author>COMTE</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103807</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103807</guid>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:26:42 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by James</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@12:</p>

<p>Brendan, regardless of what Rick Steves and his pot-smoking churchmates say, I think a lot of the folks you talk about (teachers, lawyers, etc.) haven't smoked pot since college, at best.  Granted, I'm basing this off of the teachers and lawyers that I know.  For these guys, they say they would (smoke pot now and then), but they don't for two reasons:<br />
1. They're afraid of losing their jobs or getting arrested.<br />
2. Frankly, they can't find any.  They aren't hippies in drum circles and they don't live on Capitol Hill.  So, they don't have the connections.</p>

<p>Take the act of obtaining pot here away from this select few, and you'll bring in the  middle class you're seeking.  They don't hear about Hempfest until it's already happening.  For now, they're content to simply remember pot from college, and drink their livers away.  For the folks I know in that situation, it's exactly what they're doing.</p>]]></description>
<author>James</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103831</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103831</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:28:36 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Slog Hating Internet Troll</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p><b>COMMENT DELETED</b>: Off-Topic/Spam</p>

<p><em>We'd rather not moderate your comments, but off-topic, gratuitously inflammatory, threatening, or otherwise inappropriate remarks may be removed, and repeat offenders may be banned from commenting. We never censor comments based on ideology. Thanks to all who add to the conversation on Slog.</em></p>]]></description>
<author>Slog Hating Internet Troll</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103922</link>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:39:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Gurldoggie</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@12,<br />
It wasn't me who brought up Smoke Farm as a cooler alternative to Hempfest - it's the first sentence of your post.</p>

<p>But regardless, my point isn't whether one event is better than another. My point is that Hempfest seems well in control of their public image - just about all of the Hempfest coverage I've seen has been extremely positive. The local mainstream media has gone out of their way to describe the weekend as calm and law-abiding, with the obvious exception proving the rule. </p>

<p>The only griping I see about the event is right here on the Slog. As much as I may agree with you that hippies are an anachronism, there is simply no denying that the festival attracts stoners and the people who hang with them. And Hempfest's association with that peace-loving demographic hasn't hurt Hempfest's cause one bit, except among a tiny group of non-conformist journalists. </p>]]></description>
<author>Gurldoggie</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103987</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1103987</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 14:50:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, peace-loving. That's why Dan Savage is uncomfortable in the middle of them, because they're so peace-loving. And their goddamn pit bulls on-string would never bite anyone, I'm sure.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104076</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104076</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:15:10 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>heres an idea. some kind of pot event that requires actually money to enter. and perhaps suits and ties. </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104255</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104255</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:09:30 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Bellevue Ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>actual money. fucking fuck. </p>

<p>Seriously, I want to go to a pot event that has Mr. Poe clones. </p>]]></description>
<author>Bellevue Ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104264</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104264</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:11:27 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Mr. Poe</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>We could call it...I have no imagination. Help.</p>]]></description>
<author>Mr. Poe</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104420</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104420</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:06:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Eric Arrr</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>If college fraternity culture was leading the charge for beer advocacy, drinking wouldn't be legal either.<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Eric Arrr</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104478</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1104478</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:32:56 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by violet_dagrinder</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok, while I have no problem with Hempfest, I would SO SHOW UP for the math-in! </p>]]></description>
<author>violet_dagrinder</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1106371</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1106371</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:42:12 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by NaFun</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@11 There's a speakers jury, they have contentious debates over who is allowed to speak.  There's a lot of inertia to overcome, and there aren't a lot of good speakers vs a LOT of tired hippies with the same shpiels.  Maybe you wanna try to speak at HempFest next year?  I can forward you to the right email alias if so.</p>

<p>@12<br />
HempFest is all volunteers.  It looks that way because that's the culture the volunteers come from.  If you wanna change it, come volunteer the other 11 months out of the year.  There are many on the Core staff who are far from hippies, never wear tie-dye, don't listen to reggae or the Dead, etc.  Come join us, I've got numerous volunteer opportunities at the DanceSafe stage for ya if you want 'em.</p>]]></description>
<author>NaFun</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1106951</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1106951</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:07:21 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by NaFun</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@11 There's a speakers jury, they have contentious debates over who is allowed to speak.  There's a lot of inertia to overcome, and there aren't a lot of good speakers vs a LOT of tired hippies with the same shpiels.  Maybe you wanna try to speak at HempFest next year?  I can forward you to the right email alias if so.</p>

<p>@12<br />
HempFest is all volunteers.  It looks that way because that's the culture the volunteers come from.  If you wanna change it, come volunteer the other 11 months out of the year.  There are many on the Core staff who are far from hippies, never wear tie-dye, don't listen to reggae or the Dead, etc.  Come join us, I've got numerous volunteer opportunities at the DanceSafe stage for ya if you want 'em.</p>]]></description>
<author>NaFun</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1107280</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/re_last_weekend_on_drugs#c1107280</guid>
<category>Drugs</category>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:47:09 -0800</pubDate>
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