Slog - Comments on Miss Buffalo Chipgate http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate We're wasting our time beating up on John McCain for suggesting that his leathery ol' wife should participate in a topless/bottomless beauty pageant. Yes, Obama couldn't say it—but then Obama isn't a notorious ladies man and adulterer that dumped his first wife when she went and got all ugly and shit. More to the point, and setting aside the issue of race, people think it's cute when the elderly pretend that they've still got it and say mildly racy (not racist!) things about their leathery ol' spouses. These comments would be interpreted very differently if Obama made them not because... Copyright 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:02:35 -0800 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:05:42 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Non Op-ed material. Good work on this one, Dan

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093372 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093372 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:05:56 -0800 Comment by Vince MILF material. Very hot these days. Leather and all.

]]> Vince http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093377 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093377 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:09:48 -0800 Comment by Jeff Dan,

Have you seen the weathered old hags that hang out at Sturgis? They make Cindy look like a teenager.

]]> Jeff http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093382 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093382 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:12:43 -0800 Comment by Zelbinian You know, I was all ready to get on McCain's ass about this one but . . . you're right. Thanks, Dan.

]]> Zelbinian http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093390 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093390 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:21:40 -0800 Comment by brandon the if-so-and-so-said-it style of political "analysis" is completely, utterly useless. just stick to things that actually happen, people. there are plenty of things to talk about without making shit up and then guessing how people would react if it actually happened.

]]> brandon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093407 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093407 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:32:26 -0800 Comment by JB in Silver Lake YAY Dan!!

]]> JB in Silver Lake http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093410 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093410 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:34:17 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle Well, his mistress-turned-wife is something like 22 years younger than he is.

But he's still older than Bob Dole was when he was too old to be President.

Of course, McCain probably forgot about that, just like he forgot about cheating on his wife and two young girls back during the Crimean War.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093414 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093414 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:35:30 -0800 Comment by Hank Dan,

The issue isn't about "prudery" - it's about the double standard reporting by our so-called "liberal media."

You know damn well if Obama had said that, the Drudge siren would be flashing and Cable News would be in "breaking news" overdrive.

]]> Hank http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093417 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093417 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:37:17 -0800 Comment by viagra? ahhh.... um lol, and as he says it he backs away like george costanza

]]> viagra? ahhh.... um http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093424 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093424 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:40:08 -0800 Comment by clintonsarmy We won't support spine-less NO-Bama and will re-defeat him in November!!!

]]> clintonsarmy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093437 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093437 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:45:55 -0800 Comment by Ursula First: However unnervingly immobile Cindy McCain's face may be, she's still a very attractive woman and not all that old. You wouldn't say that about a man of the same age, so don't be a jerk.

Second: It's still fucked up that McCain said it while she was standing right there (if indicative of just how retrogressive and antifeminist he is).

]]> Ursula http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093447 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093447 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:51:31 -0800 Comment by monkey No one is offended on behalf of Cindy McCain because no one respects her so no one really cares that her husband doesn't respect her either.

I honestly think that McCain neither expects to win or even wants to win. I think he's going through the motions.

]]> monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093451 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093451 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:54:12 -0800 Comment by max solomon He didn't realize the implications of what he said. He just got the line from a handler. "You liberals" are so mean.

Cindy was born in 54, McCain in 36. I'm counting 17-18 years difference.

]]> max solomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093455 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093455 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:56:31 -0800 Comment by Will in Seattle 18, 22, whatever, it's not like John McCain fathered an out-of-wedlock child when he first was a midshipman who grew up and was the same age as Cindy.

Oh, wait ...

Mind you, she wasn't a beer heiress.

]]> Will in Seattle http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093462 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093462 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:00:18 -0800 Comment by Please let Obama win, Oh Great Spaghetti Monster... @12 - I hope you're right on that last part. I've been living in a state of contant anxiety these past few months, just wishing November would come and be over with so I would know if I've got to get my bags packed and move to Canada or not.

]]> Please let Obama win, Oh Great Spaghetti Monster... http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093463 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093463 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:01:04 -0800 Comment by Zelbinian You know, all of this sidesteps the obvious question . . . what the fuck was he doing at that festival in the first place?

]]> Zelbinian http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093474 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093474 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:12:00 -0800 Comment by Dougsf I won't be satisfied by this election until I see John McCain rapping in an ad, ala "rapping grannies", to get, you know, mad votes from the youth.

]]> Dougsf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093476 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093476 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:16:17 -0800 Comment by K That ain't the point. The point is that McCain tries to play to this Christian Conservative base one one hand and on the other he's joking that his wife should get publicly topless, etc. It's hypocrisy, not obscenity. The same mechanics that work against Larry Craig.

]]> K http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093486 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093486 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:21:15 -0800 Comment by house painter Dan,
It has nothing to do with prudery and everything to do with respect. To use your wife as a sex-object punchline to get a chuckle and a wink from a bunch of beer-fogged bikers and their bikini-clad ol'ladies shows such a total lack of respect for her and begs the question of how much respect can he possibly have for women he isn't married to or doesn't know ?
Since his campaign wants to smear Obama's character as its primary strategy I think exposing McCain's lack of character at every opportunity is useful and worth a click or two of the mouse to keep it alive.

]]> house painter http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093515 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093515 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:43:43 -0800 Comment by Lloyd Clydesdale I went all the way to Sturgis and alls I got was a withered hand job.

]]> Lloyd Clydesdale http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093528 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093528 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:51:43 -0800 Comment by mistermix @16: Good fucking question.

He was at the Sturgis, SD rally in part because the upper plains/rockies states are in play for the first time since 1964. Not so much SD, but certainly ND and MT.

That's the story here, not some comment about his still kinda-hot wife.

(Also, contra the always-insufferable ECB, saying your wife is still hot is not an insult.)

]]> mistermix http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093529 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093529 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:51:57 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Y'all are nuts. Cindy's hot. She takes it up the pooper, and likes it -- begs for it. You can see it in her eyes.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093542 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093542 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:01:20 -0800 Comment by The Insatiable Sulk Kelly O and Ari Spool give Fnarf can of Rize, Fnarf drink Rize, freak out, troll out, FNARF BECOME CLINTONSARMY!

CLINTONSARMY WILL NOT SUPPORT SPINE-LESS NO-BAMA AND WILL RE-DEFEAT HIM IN NOVEMBER!

And no, I don't feel like letting it go.

]]> The Insatiable Sulk http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093569 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093569 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:26:24 -0800 Comment by dansolomon @19- Exactly. Honestly, I don't care at all if he's at Sturgis, or if he really, really wants to watch the topless/bottomless contest. But it does reveal an element of his character, that he'd make a joke in front of a crowd that works specifically because his wife is too old to be considered attractive enough to objectify.

That said, I'd rather not see it covered the way that it would be if Obama made the statement. It's not an actual issue, just another in a pattern of shitty things he's said that reveal some of his attitudes about women.

--d

]]> dansolomon http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093577 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093577 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:29:47 -0800 Comment by Tlazolteotl Dan, I thought you were a Republican?

]]> Tlazolteotl http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093629 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093629 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:13:13 -0800 Comment by rob McCain hasn't thought his wife was hot for quite some time. John to Cindy ca. 1992, in front of witnesses: "At least I don't slather on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt." So his current on-the-face-of-it left-handed commendation of her assets is all the more malicious for its hypocrisy.

]]> rob http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093643 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093643 2008 Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:28:16 -0800 Comment by Mitch It's not a waste of time to find narratives to trash McCain. And since there is a narrative out there, a real one, of how he dumped wife number one and previously, publicly insulted wife number two, (see one of the previous comments for details)it's appropriate to bring it up. Again, and again, and again.

We are afraid to bring up character issues. We need to stop that. John McCain is a misogynistic asshole. Lather, rinse, repeat.

]]> Mitch http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093897 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093897 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 07:56:59 -0800 Comment by busdrivermike I wonder how many "tail hook" conventions John McCain attended. Face it, McCain revels in debasing women. Some people take a dump in the morning, John McCain takes a dump on women once a week for fun.

Paid for by the "Tailhookers for the truth"

]]> busdrivermike http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093932 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093932 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:38:04 -0800 Comment by eva There probably won't be much political mileage in this, but he's still being a very disrespectful to his wife.

The joke is extra cruel because she clearly, clearly tries very hard to maintain her looks and still be attractive. If she had been an a matronly asexual type, the joke would have still have been tasteless but closer to funny.

Now it's just ridiculous. In no other Westernized, democratic, affluent industrialized country does a potential Head of State say shit like that about his wife. Stay classy, McCain.

]]> eva http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093942 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093942 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:47:32 -0800 Comment by Gus Amen. This is a non-issue.

]]> Gus http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093950 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1093950 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:54:24 -0800 Comment by Foodforthought michelle obama is a total f'ing fox?

All I can say to that is EEEWWWWWWW!

The woman is hideous.

]]> Foodforthought http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094287 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094287 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:10:33 -0800 Comment by Cheryl I'm really not a knee-jerk prude but it's disgusting that a Presidential candidate talks like that about his wife and she just stands there and smiles and waves like an automaton. Of course if she didn't react to being called a trollop and a cunt I guess being Miss Buffalo Chip is a step up for her. She is an excellent Stepford wife! I would have beaned McCain on the head with a buffalo chip and think the press should too. Why is sexism tolerated because they're old and cute??? I think he should be called out for being the old,sexist,lecherous man that he is!!!

]]> Cheryl http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094387 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094387 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:00:59 -0800 Comment by Cheryl Sorry Dan but there is no longer any age where a man can get away with being a lecherous,sexist creep. I'm sad to think you believe being old and cute gives you a free pass!!! Did I ruin your future plans?

]]> Cheryl http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094396 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094396 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:19:22 -0800 Comment by Rich "..dumped his first wife when she went and got all ugly and shit"
Is it cool to trash an innocent woman in such a public way?
Because you're a homo you have the right to say anything ?
Why ?
Because you got your ass kicked in junior high?

Grow up.

Love Rich

]]> Rich http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094423 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094423 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:42:59 -0800 Comment by alberta treadway I cannot believe you people think it's a laughing matter when a candidate for the United states offers up his wife to Beer belly, pot smokeing,sexist bikers for their pleasure in a topless Buffalo chip Beauty contest! Just how low can you people and mccain treat women? Useing women for sex objects is not a joke or a laughing matter! This contest in sturgis leads to lude sexual acts on stage, as well as often some women end up bottomless and topless. Women have fought being used,treated and mistreated like this for years! Than we have a old man running for president who thinks it's great fun to abusively offer his own lady up for such embarrasment is beyond indecent behavior!

]]> alberta treadway http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094449 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094449 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:15:46 -0800 Comment by MrSteff Don't feel sorry for Cindy. She knows exactly what she's doing. She's making a play for White House prestige and is apparently willing to endure insult, hypocrisy, humiliation and embarassment from her husband to get it. Essentially selling her soul for the off chance of being First Lady. Rich as she is, what else could she possibly be getting out of her ties with that old fool? If McCain keeps selling his so blatantly, Cindy's off chance is no chance.

]]> MrSteff http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094495 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094495 2008 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:25:51 -0800 Comment by Mike Cindy McCain may be 50-plus and bleached and artificial, but she's still an attractive woman who 90 percent of 25 year-olds would bang. Michelle Obama is attractive but not hot.

]]> Mike http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094531 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094531 2008 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:05:42 -0800 Comment by katrina Dood Nation permeates.

]]> katrina http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094573 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/miss_buffalo_chipgate#c1094573 2008 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:05:42 -0800