Comments on McCain's VP
Low blow from both McCain AND Dan.
WTF Dan. What is that supposed to mean? What if he had picked a black dude?
I'm a lady!!!
Sadly, this probably will successfully scrape up a few of those PUMA votes. Actual policies won't enter into the equation for them.
Well she's all you'd ever want.
She's the kind who'd fire a trooper in a divorce dispute.
She's got style, she's got grace, She was the mayor of a town of 8,000.
She's a lady.
Talkin' about he little lady.
She's a spokesmodel.
It may work to pull in some of those idiots but think about this.
What do older, strong feminist women (the type we're supposedly talking about) when an old man surrounds himself with young beautiful women?
Both were models, his new VP was runner up in the Ms Alaska contest.
I say we spread the "Old man surrounded by young beautiful women" line. I like it. It's catchy. It's just the sort of idiot line these people feed on.
She has a baby, named Trig (can we hope that all of her children are named after math disciplines?) born last April. If she was really a good Republican, she'd be home with him. Right? Isn't that what they're always saying?
I think this is the last ditch effort for the MILF-lovers vote.
Odoomba-Bidet is kaput!
McCain just torpedoed them.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/29/palin.republican.vp.candidate/
She has been named chair of the National Governors Association's Natural Resources Committee. That panel is focused on legislation to ensure that federal policies take state priorities into account in agriculture, energy, environmental protection and natural resource management.
She is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association and takes part in two of Alaska's popular pastimes -- fishing and hunting.
The governor's biography says Palin's other priorities have been "education and workforce development, public health and safety, and transportation and infrastructure development."
Somebody else on staff post about it now! When will Annie tell us it's a woman pick? I need posts from everyone, each lacking substance, and i need it now!
Wow. What an interesting choice. Obvs intended to pick up some PUMAs. Might even work a little bit.
Kinda creepy that she looks like a trophy wife next to him. It might send the right visual to old white guys, but decidedly wrong visual to feminists (the very people this choice is intended to appeal to). Especially since he already has one trophy wife.
Some of her campaign staff were incompetent. Some of the people in this country are sexist. Ignoring that just plays into predictable GOP efforts to divide us.
She has almost no experience. Our party makes dumb mistakes but this is actually good for us. Will republicans really be comfortable with a 70 year old geezer in office if this is his back-up plan?
OBAMA is F*CKED
This is an extremely deft move by McCain, and one from which the Obama campaign may not recover.
I hope I'm wrong, but this is really bad.
And that baby Trig has down syndrome.
Her son... Track... joined the army last year.
Her other children are still in school and have equally stupid names.
Yeah, @8, we're all obviously reeling, what from the brilliance of it all.
I don't buy it. It's a red herring. Who could imagine her as president when he keels over before 2010. But come to think of it - it would make a great movie script! Former mayor of a tiny town and newly elected govenor of a state where almost no one lives, gets picked as VP running mate for PR purposes, then suddenly becomes president when the old coot drops dead. Brilliant! I'll start typing now! Does anyone have Ben Stiller's phone number?
I'm scared, people are stupid. I don't understand why people will fall for this (and they will) stupid pandering.
As a woman, I'm insulted by this choice. Do we really think that women are so stupid that they'll be blinded by the fact that no matter what her gender, she is still a republican? God, I hope they're not right.
Well, she's anti-abortion, which seems to be the GOP's sole criterion for someone who's a heartbeat away from the Big Job.
Her hubby's an Eskimo. Looks like Obama isn't going to pull in the Eskimo vote he was counting on. :(
I wonder how Governor Palin enjoys being called a "trollop" and a "cunt" by elderly Senators. We'll find out, soon enough.
Also, is she still under investigation by that special prosecutor in her home state? Did the talk of her impeachment a week or so ago blow over, already?
Crafty timing for the announcement, but it feels like the reckless gamble of a desperate geezer.
Old guy surrounded by hot young ladies!
Pervert!
Oh geez, silly me. Alaska is a big oil state and inexperience makes for a perfect puppet.
I can't wait to see her and McCain with their loved ones on stage at the RNC. Who is gonna vote on that ticket??
McCain first met Palin when she popped out of the cake at his birthday party.
Experience, pshaw. Who needs it when you're in possession of not one but two X chromosomes?
Just wait until the secret Sarah Palin/Cindy McCain video gets released! Hubba!
"Alaska Senate leaders want an investigation of whether Gov. Sarah Palin pressured and then fired the public safety commissioner because he wouldn't get rid of a state trooper who had gone through a bitter divorce with Palin's sister."
i fear for her child with down syndrome.
special needs take special time. really.
While McCain's choice, at first blush, appears to be directed at the feminist vote; what self-respecting feminist would vote for a pro-life candidate? Still, intruiging.
I don't know -- this makes me very nervous too. Don't underestimate this country's stupidity.
This is just disgusting and offensive. She was not selected because of her vast experience or political capital. She was selected to try and pick up Hillary supporters. She is being used as an adornment and a tool and is not being treated as a partner and an equal. That alone is offensive enough, but add on top of that that she is a "lifetime feminist" who is anti abortion and every single former Hillary supporter who was thinking of voting for McCain should stand up, slap that old white bastard in the face, and tromp right back to the Democratic Party. To do any less would be a disgrace.
@18, you're offended that the Republican presidential nominee picked a female Republican as his running mate? I'm confused. Would you rather he pick a man?
McCain/Palin=McPain
Man, McCain really loves him some former beauty queens.
I think this is a hillarious choice. Another Harriett Meyers. A beauty queen with a lifelong membership to the NRA. Under investigation. Two years of experience on a national stage from a state that many Americans probably couldn't even find on a map.
What a supreme joke. What a disaster. Who the hell thought this one up?
And don't forget: Many women - mostly conservative women - have a real problem with other women. They don't like to see other women "get ahead". That explained a lot of the hatred for Hillary. How do you think they are going to take this?
@30 we can start calling her little scandal "Troopergate."
Oh, and Alaska has a grand total of THREE electoral votes, and they are solidly Republican, because of the oil welfare they recieve. Who cares how they vote?
The fact that Trig has down syndrome makes the ploy even clearer. Imagine asking the Christian Right: What type of new mother would leave her down syndrome child with care takers while she goes out campaigning? What type of woman wouldn't give up her career to take care of her down-syndrome child? Do you want this woman running the country?
What will the scandal be like when the President gets a blow job from the vice-president instead of an intern? Wait, sorry. I was flashing on the inevitable porn movie being cast as I type in the San Fernando Valley.
The Down's syndrome will be interpreted as either punishment from God, or proof that she is worthy of the VP position because she didn't abort.
Believe me, I know how these people think.
@38: Two years of experience on a national stage from a state that many Americans probably couldn't even find on a map.
It's hard to spot down there on the left.
I'm wondering what Hillary's response will be to this nomination.
Will Hillary let another woman even stand the chance of becoming the first female president (given that McCain predates the constitution)?
Will Hillary let THIS woman (who is totally unqualified, compared to HRC) become the first female president?
And wouldn't Hillary be the ultimate person to campaign against Palin? She's a woman, she's been closer to being president than any other woman, and she cannot be accused of being sexist.
Just think of the hilarity that will be the VP debate. LOL!
eh, i don't think this is going to help mccain much. he's trying to break the stereotypical repub image too much (lieberman, femaleVP, etc...), when he likely needs the support of the xtianists. if they have no one else to vote for (3rd party?) this might work out as a good strategic move.
but why all the hate for palin? should she not be a repub VP just because she's an attractive woman? seriously. even if mccain wins -- not something i'm hoping for -- there is a bright side: we are long overdue for a woman to be POTUS or VPOTUS.
either mccain is actually not so sexist after all, or he is evil but realizes that in this day and age woman can no longer be ignored.
@46:
The perception is that she was picked solely because she was a woman. We're overdue for a country where being female doesn't hurt your chances of being President, but that doesn't mean being female should help you, either.
She has no legal experience, her professional experience is working as a local TV journalist, and she's been in office for two years. I'm not sure having a vag makes up for that.
I don't think this helps that much, either. She's a dead-ender and a nonentity.
But yeah, having a Downs child is proof of sainthood to the kooks. Taking care of it? That's what staff are for.
I remember this movie now. I'm going to fast forward to the part where she takes off her glasses, lets down her hair, and falls to her knees.
Smells like MILF Cantwell.
@49. She really does like like one of those MILF porn stars. Nice.
i am actually speechless. i mean the concept that one will vote for someone simply because they are the same sex or the same race is so stupid. it is a bold move from mccain for sure. how it will play out i can't even imagine.
vote obama/biden for a chance in hell to change the course of this country. listening to everything obama said he was going to change as president - the one word that kept screaming out was HOW? HOW are you going to do that? that's what i'd like to hear.
The pro-Hillary people here at the Nursing Center are already saying they are voting for McCain because he put a woman on the ticket. I tried telling them that the Republicans will gut Medicare and Medicaid and many of them will be out of a job, but there is no
The Hilbots don't vote on gender. Give them credit. How many times did they tell us that what matters to them is EXPERIENCE.
It would be the height of hypocrisy for any Hillary supporters to vote for this inexperienced person.
crusty old white guy + attractive young woman. it's a fucking fox news ticket.
crusty old white guy + attractive young woman = fox news wet dream ticket. ick.
The only explanation for this pick has to be that the GOP is trying to snag disenchanted on-the-fence woman voters who badly wanted Hillary in the White House because they badly wanted a woman in the White House.
It's as dumb as any other political ploy and it won't work.
brandon @55, @56, you crack me up. Same for blargh @36 and dan @37. And mistermix @4, I appreciate any Lenny Kravitz reference.
Anyway, the best I can say for Sarah Palin is the one thing she has in common with Barack Obama. They were both members of state championship high school basketball teams.
Well, it's also cool that she's a hockey mom. (Which of course qualifies her to be the leader of the free world.)
Maybe they're trying to snag the 2.9 million Battlestar Galactica viewers with their choice of vice-president Laura Roslin. Course they'll be screwed when it turns out she's a cylon!
Note: Palin has more public executive experience than the rest of both tickets put together. She is a "Reformer with Results". And the reflex catcalls assuming she's too attractive to be intelligent? Playing into their hands.
well she is a woman, but that does not make her a lady.
And here I didn't think there was a politician alive who could make Geraldine Ferraro look good.
@60 Yeah, that's going to work.
She looks like his assisted living caregiver; like she just stepped off the set as the second lead in a MILF porn film; like she's one of the many, many women that McCain's cheated on his wives with; like every frigid, scolding schoolmarm or Sunday School teacher you ever hated; like she might have lived in the Playboy mansion for a couple of weeks in the '80s before becoming governor of Alaska when her first career choice didn't pan out.
Oh no! I've played into their hands!
It's not that she's too attractive to be intelligent (if you consider that look attractive, which I certainly do not), it's that the obviousness of her only qualification being her vajayjay is pathetic. I'm sure her JCPenney chicness appeals to some, but nobody ever accused Hillary of getting by on her looks.
This is the last desperate gasp of a pathetic, irrelevant dirty old man.
@44 - Dead on! Hillary will campaign her heart out now that some nobody is about to steal her thunder.
uh, public executive experience consisting of being mayor of a small town and governor of a tiny state...big woo!
@35 Yes,I would rather he chose a man, instead of hoping to snag Hillary supporters by bringing along a woman. Clearly this was out of left field, no one expected this choice, and it's so obviously a grab for the womens' vote.
I don't believe he chose this woman because he thinks she will be a good vice president. I think he chose her to get some votes. I would rather he chose a man than to show such disrespect to women voters - that he thinks a flash of estrogen on the ticket will sway their vote. Again, I hope he's wrong.
I seriously can't believe the sexism in this thread.
She looks like a PORN Star?! WTF?! What the hell is wrong with you people?
She supports teaching creationism in public schools and wants to remove protections for polar bears. She's as idealogically crazy as cheney.
I hear the final pick for vp came down to Palin and a Waitress from Hooters.
Palin won on a coin toss.
She was the mayor of fucking mayberry.
@66, clearly, she can't be a "real" choice because she's an attractive woman. She's just designed to put a whiff of estrogen on the ticket.
Good gravy. Pot, kettle, anyone?
There is going to be a huge age divide in this election. Young people are overwhelmingly for Obama and the elderly are tilting toward McCain. It may be a bit difficult for those of us who grew up post civil rights and post second wave feminism. To us, race and gender are non-issues. This is not the case for the elder generation. It is unwise for us to underestimate the importance of race and gender for those over 65.
Another reason the younger generation is less affected by this issues is that we know, without any doubt, that we will see a female president in our lifetime. We are so certain of this fact, that we are free to vote for the best candidate. We don't have to sacrifice our values to see that glass ceiling shattered, because to us, it already has been. It is only a matter of time. Those in their twilight years do not have this luxury. They may not be here in 2016. Don't underestimate how important it may be to a 70-year-old first wave feminist to see a woman in that spot before she passes on. Add this to the fact that McCain is one of them and Obama is a young, arrogant, black man and you have motivation far more potent than medicare.
The scariest thing is that people over 65 vote at an unimaginable rate. The only silver lining in that for Obama and the democrats is that elder voter turnout can't really increase. It's pretty much maxed out. Meanwhile, youth voter turnout has enormous room to grow.
This is an oversimplification, but I believe it is going to come down to this: demographics will decide who people vote for. Turn out will decide who wins.
Obama should have picked Hillary as his running mate.
@72:
Don't underestimate how important it may be to a 70-year-old first wave feminist to see a woman in that spot before she passes on
Don't forget that Palin is passionately pro-life, I don't see the dead-enders giving up all they fought for in the 70's to see Roe v. Wade be thrown out the window for the small chance Palin could be the first woman president.
This could be of great benefit to McCain and should not be so lightly dismissed. Her Wiki bio really makes her sound like a winner. The only thing the fundies won't like about her is that she effectivley granted same-sex partner benefits to Alaska state employees but that will play well with Republican moderates. This is going to be played up as another maverick move and could result in some bounce. She is definately not a Cheney.
@74 - She's not pro-life, she's anti-abortion. She'd fry your wrongfully convicted ass without a moment's hesitation.
@72: I've spent the past three days living in a retirement community while I take care of an ailing grandparent. I've spent a lot of time talking to the old folks who live here (median age is 65), and not a single one of them is voting for McCain. Wanna know why? He's TOO OLD. That's the reason they give me when I ask why they're not backing him. He's too old, his health is too poor, and they don't think he'll survive his first term, let alone a second.
I realize I'm living in a pretty liberal pocket of the country, but I don't think these people I've been talking to are an anomaly. I think you underestimate the elder generation.
Geraldine Quayle. Mark my words. Geraldine Quayle.
Haunted Leg has a point...older people aren't dumb and are aware of the physical and mental challenges that they and their peers face. I had very conservative and poorly educated grandparents and their siblings in Kansas who had strong reservations about Reagan because of that. I think they all ended up voting for him anyway, just because they were Republicans in Kansas, but it WAS a topic of discussion in a very Red state.
“What is it exactly that the vice president does every day?” [Palin] asked in an interview on CNBC.
@71 Okay now you've ceased to make any sense. I never commented on her looks, I don't think she's attractive, and I'm clearly not the only person here who thinks he threw her on the ticket because she's a woman.
And what's with the "pot/kettle" comments? You've lost me there. We should stop, now.
I am a diehard Democrat and a liberal. I also happen to be from Alaska (making my political views a definite minority). I support Obama and will continue to do so because of what he represents.
That being said, let me say this: Palin is a BRILLIANT choice by the Republicans. I've witnessed first hand Palin's rise to power and I have to tell you she is an incredibly charismatic person. I don't agree with her social conservative views, but she stood up to the good ol' boys in her own party and trounced them. No one thought she could. In the governor's race she defeated Democrat Tony Knowles, a man who had already served as governor of Alaska for two terms in the '90s. No one thought she could beat him.
Everyone in Alaska, whether they like her or not, has watched her amazing rise and I've had countless conversations with other Alaskans(republicans and democrats) where the possibility of her being U.S. President was discussed. I fully expected that one day Palin would run for president.
Now judging by some of the posters here, I expect you think because she is from my "hick" state she is irrelevant. Hmmm. Bill Clinton is from a "hick" state and prior to becoming president he had served as governor of Arkansas.
I'm not going to dignify the sexist remarks on this thread, because whether republican or democrat, Palin deserves respect for everything she has accomplished. And believe me, she IS smart and politically she is very savy.
Final note - a lot of the men I know up here voted for Palin for governor because, as they put it, "she's hot!".
Did any of you stop to consider that MAYBE MCCAIN PICKED HER TO WIN OVER MALE VOTERS WHO WEREN'T DECIDED RATHER THAN HILARY DEMOCRATS!!?? Even if that wasn't one of the reasons he picked her, I think it will be a factor. Let's face it, many voters (both men and women) vote for trivial reasons and looks are part of the equation when you vote for the person.
I think we as Democrats really need to stop scoffing at McCain's choice and take Palin seriously. The ruling members of her own party here in Alaska didn't take her seriously, and she stomped them.
Believe me, Palin as McCain's running mate is a real threat to Obama/Biden.
@82 - Hey! How's it going, PC?
Holy shit, that woman is hot.
God, what a brilliant move. When Barack makes his VP pick to steal some of that old white guy vote, McCain counters by trying to steal the young hot vote.
Who else wants to see the Obama/Palin sex tape? Hot on multiple levels.
I always get offended when people from small town shit holes (or at least my experience with them) tell me how to live my life. I know it goes both ways, and that's why I don't live in a small shit hole town (anymore). So it's aggravating to think that someone who was a mayor of a town of 8000 people knows my experience of someone with an advanced degree trying to make it work in the "big evil city".
Is it so fricken hard for some people to understand, that having babies just isn't enough for some people.
If you're concerned about HER experience, why would you not be MORE CONCERNED about Obama's experience? What has he done beyond give speeches? He was a senator for less than 150 working days before deciding to run for president. He hasn't DONE anything. Identify 3 accomplishments beyond being nominated, traveling the world, and slamming any republican initiative?
Regardless of the population of Alaska or the town where she was Mayor, Palin ran the show AND has an 80% approval rating. Whether you agree with her views or not, she fights for her principles and apparently succeeds in her fights.
I'm guessing those of you who can only focus on her appearance and age and assume that's what others are going to focus on either don't vote or aren't old enough to vote anyway. Happy election.
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