Slog - Comments on It's "Fronkensteen" http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen Eric Grandy proclaimed this week that copy editors are a violently uptight bunch. While this may or may not be true, this sign in the Value Village window is bothering me. 1. Frankenstein is the DOCTOR, not the monster. I doubt this text is saying what they want it to. 2. It is August! Let me enjoy the summer and not be thinking about Halloween already! That is all.... Copyright 2008 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:20:38 -0800 Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:55:30 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by Mr. Poe Halloween is right around the corner. Oh how the days go by.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096566 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096566 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:25:50 -0800 Comment by Aaron Huffman Also, what the hell is that supposed to mean? While they're hiring a new copy editor, they should look for a writer, too.

]]> Aaron Huffman http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096585 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096585 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:33:03 -0800 Comment by Mr. X Wouldn't that be "Froderic", then?

]]> Mr. X http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096595 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096595 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:38:10 -0800 Comment by w7ngman #2, it means your Frankenstein costume isn't going to make itself.

]]> w7ngman http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096598 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096598 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:39:17 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV You need to have your costume now, so you'll have time for Christmas shopping come October 31st.

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096607 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096607 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:43:07 -0800 Comment by Fnarf One of the benefits of growing old is finding out that one day a terrific burden will be lifted from your shoulders and you will no longer give a flying fuck if people call the monster Frankenstein or not.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096624 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096624 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:51:54 -0800 Comment by elenchos If the monster's last name wasn't Frankenstein, then what was it? No last name? Was he just Adam, like Sting or Bono? They didn't do that in the 19th century did they? And wouldn't it have been lame even if they did? So why can't you call him by his last name?

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096671 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096671 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:18:52 -0800 Comment by Catman Spectacular costumes require planning now.

]]> Catman http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096682 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096682 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:23:50 -0800 Comment by smp Elenchos: he didnt' have a name. He was "monster." He didn't have a first or last name and Frankenstein was the name of the man who created him. In a sense I suppose you could call him Frankenstein's Monster but giving him a name at all is kind of missing the point of the novel.
I suppose the proper use of that in the VV campaign would be to say "You monster costume is not going to make itself," but "monster" being a very broad concept in regards to Halloween, it would lose its punch.

I knew my English degree would come in handy someday.

]]> smp http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096711 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096711 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:46:01 -0800 Comment by PopTart My son told me today he wants to be Dr. Who for Halloween, the current one, not Tom Baker even though Tom Baker is the 2nd coolest Dr. Who (his words, not mine). How the hell do I turn a 7 year old kid into the new Dr. Who? Well, at least he's given me a head start so I won't be scrambling on October 30th to put something together...

]]> PopTart http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096722 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096722 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:57:09 -0800 Comment by elenchos @9

Do you know how to tell if the Negroes should be called African Americans? Ask them.

The monster called himself Adam. His name is therefore Adam. And if a drunk in a trailer park can sleep with a hooker, father a child he never meets, and the child gets drunk's last name, then Adam's last name is Frankenstein.

Some English degrees are better than others, doncha know.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096732 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096732 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:03:16 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV I don't care what they say: vonce a Fronkenstein, alvaays a Fronkenstein....

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096744 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096744 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:18:30 -0800 Comment by smp He was unnamed for a reason and Frankenstein created him but he was by no means his son. He was monster. A creation, or by his own admission - a monster.
But in that regards, Frankenstein was more of a monster than Monster was. Monster just wanted to eat berries with a female companion. He was lonely and sad. Frankenstein was a maniac.

]]> smp http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096766 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096766 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:37:10 -0800 Comment by elenchos smp, you're just regurgitating the standard interpretation that they feed everyone in college. Read it again with an open mind.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096795 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096795 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:14:07 -0800 Comment by RainMan So was the bride of Frankenstein named Eve? And shouldn't the title of the movie have been the Bride of Frankenstein's Monster?

]]> RainMan http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096824 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096824 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:48:31 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe College? More like 9th grade.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096825 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096825 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:49:56 -0800 Comment by iflurry @15: Dr. Frankenstein's bride (or fiance, I can't remember which) figures in the sequel, too. So yeah, it's confusing.

Maybe there's no problem with the sign - t's saying you need the right tools to be a mad scientist.

]]> iflurry http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096877 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096877 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 20:41:26 -0800 Comment by Abby....Abby Normal what hump?

]]> Abby....Abby Normal http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096909 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096909 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:14:39 -0800 Comment by Stolia elenchos, Fnarf, et. al, I'm surprised you got it so wrong.

The word "Frankensteins" in this context is referring to the brand.

The monster was made by Frankenstein and is often referred to as "The Frankenstein Monster." The monster's NAME is not Frankenstein, the monster IS a Frankenstein.

Like a Prius is a Toyota.

So there shouldn't be any argument about the monster's name, whether you like to examine the original text or like to take the easy way out.

(I have to say that I expected more from the Slog.)

]]> Stolia http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096931 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096931 City Fri, 08 Aug 2008 23:52:22 -0800 Comment by vern i always honk when i drive by fronk.

]]> vern http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096964 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1096964 City Sat, 09 Aug 2008 01:50:05 -0800 Comment by dawicksta walk this way

]]> dawicksta http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1097003 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1097003 City Sat, 09 Aug 2008 06:56:12 -0800 Comment by Postum A good copy editor would ban "That is all." (and "I'm just sayin'")

]]> Postum http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1097033 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/08/its_fronkensteen#c1097033 City Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:55:30 -0800