uh, he has a point.
I don't think he needs to be called grumpy for calling out a bunch of cowardly, assholes.
um, are you guys ok, or did you go on a bender last night?
A service dog ripping apart that jackass (the guy punching the blind woman, not the old man) is a dog attack I can get behind.
And in circumstances like this, it often takes several seconds, if not minutes, for the shock to wear off and for people to intervene.
She should get a pit bull.
What the fuck was the driver doing during all of this?!?!?!?
what @1 said.
For once, one Seattleite isn't passive and makes a decision and then tells the truth and you criticize him as grumpy? WTF?
Kew Gardens redux?
Save the grumpy charge for those who truly are.
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6: It seems like a matter of time and placement. The old guy was closest to the woman and her attacker, and naturally comprehended what was happening first. It's not like the other riders refused to get involved, they were just a little slow on the uptake, for reasons that are understandable, I think.
But you're right, it was heartless of me to call that grumpy old man grumpy. Maybe he's exceedingly cheerful, and will sue me for defamation.
David Schmader is a fucking coward.
#5 Thank you! The whole time I was reading this I wondered where the driver was in all this. The bus driver should have got his or her ass fired over this. Once again I say we need Metro cops like they have in other big cities, but until then it is the driver's responsibility to prevent shit like this from happening.
Anyone else wondering what exactly the "H" word is...?
@5 Driving, probably.
Hero.
Wait, I don't get it—what exactly is the old dude insinuating that the Stranger got wrong? The blind lady obviously couldn't see who helped her, but someone obviously did, and that someone wasn't old dude. So what if the entire bus didn't bumrush the attacker; all it takes is one.
The victim seems pretty satisfied with the outcome of this event. She doesn't want a dog, she doesn't want pity, and she doesn't want some old bastard telling her that things should've gone down differently. I'm sure she's had plenty of time to parse out the scenario for herself from her own perspective, and her satisfaction far outweighs this old guy's dissatisfaction.
I'm gonna buy the script/movie rights to this event.
15: It would make a great musical.
As a grumpy old man, I would like to point out that being grumpy does not preclude being right. He has a point. It's unclear why, if "reaction time" is the reason for other people not doing anything, grumpypants was able to somehow roust himself from this Metro-induced stupor, despite his disability, but the able-bodied around him were not.
It's called "diffusion of responsibility" and it is a common issue when there are a lot of people around. It is counter-intuitive, but the more people are around, the less likely any one person is to help. Once someone does step in, like the "grumpy" old man, it (as shrinks would say it) "models" the correct behavior for others, and they tend to join in (as happened here.
The trick for a victim is to take matters into their own hands, if possible. Do not simply hope someone will help, or vaguely ask for help, but rather point to one person (randomly) and demand their help. It worked for me when I was attacked in DC a few years back and needed assistance.
@16, you rang????
Why should I not beat you up on the bus?
God told me to do so.
Life is an unfair drag, old gal,
Welcome to the Metro.
Put down your white cane,
Your pack and the rest.
Time for a flogging, oh!
Life is an unfair drag, old gal,
Welcome to the Metro.
Come hear the word,
The word of God.
He blew his horn,
in revelation;
Right at me,
Now here's abrasions!
No use resisting
this prophet of doom,
I'll knock your glasses low.
I am the wrath of God, no?
Life is an unfair drag, old gal,
Welcome to the Metro!
Etc...
Schmader, you also called the guy cripple? Is that not insulting you faggot? You're a faggot aren't you David? David like most men who suck cock and get fucked in the ass can't defend themselves let alone anyone else. Only a faggot would defend a bunch of young people who sat around and didn't do shit to help a blind women who was attacked. Schmander is your average fag, to busy staring at his navel to notice anything else going on around him.
@20, I think the average fag would be staring at cock.
Fuck off.
No, I was asking for it with that "cripple" crack, which I used only because the man is not, in fact, differently-abled, but has a heart condition. My calling him a cripple was in response to him calling himself disabled.
Still, #20, you're right, I'm a fag. You must work for the FBI.
#11 I know s/he was driving, but considering the amount of time this event must have taken, the driver could have pulled over, even at the next stop, and intervened (unless the bus was on the freeway).
#20 As someone who is in a wheelchair (hopefully temporarily) I don't have time to care if someone wants to cal me "crippled" any more than I care if some one calls me an "Injun," which I prefer, or a "non-practicing" bisexual, which, for the first time, I am admitting here.
Worry about yourself and let us "minorities" defend ouselves.
And you're hardly average, Dave.
elswinger sounds like a sitcom or payoff to a tasteless joke.
My dear Schank, the proper usage is "pussy you faggot", preferably prefaced with "Go back to France".
And Mr. Schmader is by all reports an OUTSTANDING fag, far from average. Even in trivial matters, such as his tolerance for your pathetic bullshit, he is superior to the norm.
The driver was doing their job- driving. Bus operators aren't cops. In fact we are instructed to place an EA (silent alarm) and wait for police- WHEN WE REALIZE CONFRONTATION IS OCCURING. News flash, we can't hear shit, especially in the hybrids. There are so many noises competing with our attention in the driver chair. Far be it for me to know what is happening in a 62 ft long coach. The avenger was correct, the passengers were apathetic about what was going on. This is very common at Joe Metro. Everyone has the right to a non- harassing ride. If I don't know what is going on, then I can't make any decisions nor actions. Case in point- yesterday I boarded a drunker then shit ass s/b at prospect on elliot. The bus became crowded. I cant see nor hear down the aisle. Not until 1st and Bell did I hear another individual yell "Shut up! I'm tired of hearing your obscenities and threats!" An argument ensued. I immediately pulled into the next zone, secured the coach, walked to the back and told him to leave (yes I knew whom the perp was.) While i received an ovation, I was rather disappointed that no one brought this to my attention, wtf? It has to come to point of a brawl, and both parties will be arrested? (By the way, what I did was so against policy.)
#25 I will be at the Shoreline branch of the King County Library until about 4:30pm today and then I will be at the Park Ridge Skilled Nursing Center, where I temporarily live, after 5pm if you want to come by. I am wearing a Led Zeppelin hockey jersey.
#27 Thank you for clarifying that. I agree that someone should have brought it to the attention of the driver than assume that they knew what was going on. I would like to think I would have intervened, but in the past I admit I have been one of those apathetic, or scared, passengers.
There's such a thing as a Led Zeppelin hockey jersey?
I bought it on Amazon. It might be dumb but I like it (and they didn't have a Frank Zappa jersey).
I got tired of waiting for BA at the library so I am sitting in the lobby of the Nursing Center if s/he wants to stop by.
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