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Sunday, August 17, 2008

Another Satisfied Customer

posted by on August 17 at 9:13 AM

This just in…

After reading your political endorsements in a recent edition, I can say I will never touch another Stranger as long as I live. The totally one-sided, childish, demeaning comments have no place in my life and in no way make the author or your rag credible in any way. It only makes you look like kids. Please cancel my subscription. (Oh, it’s free. No wonder.)


The Stranger Election Control Board’s one-sided, childish, demeaning endorsements are here. Our election cheat sheet is here.

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Just based on what "Eric" wrote, I grabbed my absentee ballot and voted a 100% Stranger ticket. It's going in the mail tomorrow. Who's childish now?

Posted by MagnoliaFag | August 17, 2008 9:48 AM

Dear Eric,

Letters are for old women with relatives that hate them. Unless that letter was written by me and my double standards. Also, this wasn't the first time you picked up The Stranger, and it won't be the last.

Posted by Mr. Poe | August 17, 2008 9:52 AM

Oh God Magnolia Fag. Don't vote for Sam Reed for Secretary of State. Don't vote for any of the candidates for that office.

Posted by dumbocracy | August 17, 2008 9:53 AM

Personally, I enjoy The Stranger's one-sided, childish, demeaning endorsements.

The Stranger's "Stupid Fucking Credulous Hack" posts? Not so much. Milking a thinly-veiled literary device to draw attention to *ahem* hackneyed opinion pieces that would otherwise be rightfully ignored.

Posted by RonK, Seattle | August 17, 2008 10:38 AM

The only race on my ballot but not on the cheat sheet is 9th District Rep. Fortunately, Adam Smith is pretty much a no-brainer.

Posted by Mike of Renton | August 17, 2008 10:45 AM

Aren't endorsements kinda one-sided by definition?

Posted by Fnarf | August 17, 2008 10:47 AM

And childish and demeaning by the grace of God.

Posted by Dan Savage | August 17, 2008 10:51 AM

eh, I thought this year's endorsements were a little lighter than recent previous years'. But I'll still use them for the most part.

Posted by cap hill voter | August 17, 2008 11:02 AM

RE: King County Council-Proposed Alternative

But if sex offenders have to register, so should Republicans.

Actully, most sex offenders and pedophiles are democrats because Republicans are too busy building businesses, hiring, investing, and growing the economy. But I agree it's good to see the party affiation.

Posted by raindrop | August 17, 2008 11:08 AM



Republican sex offender & Missouri State Rep. Scott Muschany, (R)-Frontenac, was indicted today, Aug 6, 2008, in connection with a reported sexual assault of a 14-year-old girl on May 17, the day after this year’s Legislative session ended.
Republican sex offender & candidate for Mineral County (W.Va.) Commission Wilton Frederick Bland, 30, of Bayberry Place, was arrested March 23, 2007, after police received a complaint concerning a juvenile boy who said Bland had wanted him to appear nude on the Internet. Bland charged last year with 136 counts related to sexually based crimes against children has been sentenced to a possible total of 85 years after pleading guilty in both Grant and Mineral counties.
Republican Delegate Robert McKee, known as an advocate for children's rights, is the focus of a child pornography investigation after officers searched his Hagerstown, Md home.
Republican sex offender & Department of Children & Families press secretary Al Zimmerman, 40, was arrested Friday, Feb 1, 2008 and charged with eight felony charges of using a child in a sexual performance
The Republican Mayor, who is also the Pastor of the Temple Lot Church in Collins Missouri, a town in St. Clair County, is accused of trying to convince someone whom he thought was a teenage girl to meet him for sex.

Oh, and go fuck yourself.

Posted by keshmeshi | August 17, 2008 11:22 AM

Hey raindrop, I though Repugs were too busy tap dancing in airport rest rooms.

Posted by Don't you think he looks tired? | August 17, 2008 11:22 AM

Actually, raindrop, most felons - including sex offenders - vote Republican (see polling from the 2004 Governor race). This is likely because they lack empathy, which is kind of the defining characteristic of both sex offenders and Republicans.

Posted by dumbocracy | August 17, 2008 11:23 AM

Anecdotes are not statistics. I could find any stats, but it’s probable that most inmates in prison would probably call themselves democrats. They've been lied to by leaders in their party who recycle the same failed policies of promised entitlements of an expanding government paid for by sticking it to the rich. Trouble is, the “rich” are most small businesses.

Posted by raindrop | August 17, 2008 11:41 AM


Anecdotes are not statistics.

They sure beat the hell out of fact-free conjecture though.

I could find any stats

. . . so you're talking out of your ass. Way to exemplify your side's preferred method of argument.

Posted by shub-negrorath | August 17, 2008 1:04 PM

When Democrats cheat on their wives they at least do it with other adults.

Posted by elswinger | August 17, 2008 1:04 PM

@14: There was a typo. I meant I could not find any stats.
Anyhow, I'll own up to my own conjecture but in the final analysis it just comes down to the fact that democrats can't stand republicans primarily because they keep winning the White House. Hence the hate-spewed anti-Republican venom poisons every Slog article about politics by The Stranger's staff at every opportunity. It’s unprofessional and adolescent.

Posted by raindrop | August 17, 2008 1:26 PM

The Stranger isn't available in Canada, is it? I mean how could the letter writer pick it up, as surely this person moved to Canada after the (not first but second) Bush election?

Posted by Liston | August 17, 2008 1:38 PM

The endorsements did seem even more juvenile than usual this year. The fact that people are still shocked by this is bizarre. But I do think that despite all the fine reporting done by Stranger writers, the tone of these endorsement issues has a very damaging effect on the credibility and professionalism of the Stranger's news department in the community.

Posted by Trevor | August 17, 2008 2:14 PM


Trouble with your argument is... most small businesses are middle class.
Trouble with your argument is... Republicans are incredibly hostile to the middle class and to small businesses; the Republican party is the party of big business.
Trouble with your argument is... although the Dems are about as much in the pocket as big business as Republicans, they aren't as dedicated to completely fucking over the middle class as the Republicans are.
Trouble with your argument is... a huge number of felons are black and African Americans are largely Democrats, whether they've been to prison or not. And, particularly after Katrina, all African Americans in prison and out are well aware of how much Republicans like to fuck them over.

Hence the hate-spewed anti-Republican venom poisons every Slog article about politics by The Stranger's staff at every opportunity. It’s unprofessional and adolescent.

Leave it to a Republican to be a raging hypocrite.

Like I said, go fuck yourself.

Posted by keshmeshi | August 17, 2008 3:09 PM

According to The Strangers endorsements "The race to replace 36-year veteran Helen Sommers features two qualified, energetic, liberal candidates:" It doesn't even mention that I am running in the same race. I also am qualified, energetic and have quite liberal views!

My stance on the issues is just as important as my opponents. You are not doing voters any favors by trying to keep me from being considered.

Many voters (including Democrats) do not want to have a state income tax (as my opponents do) and they need to be able to hear/read all sides to make an informed decision.

Posted by Leslie Bloss | August 17, 2008 5:06 PM

Hey Leslie!

I've never heard of you before, but something jumped out at me on your web site: "I want to eliminate congestion"!

See, here's the thing.

I had this hilarious conversation with an entity that calls itself (and might well be) Tim Eyman.

Eyman wants to reduce congestion -- he isn't so ambitious as to say "eliminate." But he is unable to name for me one single example of any city, region, state or nation that has ever reduced congestion at all. Not even one single measly example. Weird, huh?

Anyhoo, I'm not trying to hold you to the idea of eliminating all congestion. That's a lot to ask. But can you -- or anybody -- give me one example of anyone who has ever reduced congestion?

I'm just wondering if this is like some never before done feat. Like a cure for cancer or 9 Olympic gold medals or something. Not impossible, perhaps, but never before accomplished by mortal men in all of recorded history. Because you'd be some kind of wunderkind if you could so what no one has ever done before, wouldn't you?

One example? Please?

Posted by elenchos | August 17, 2008 5:42 PM

elenchos: I cannot identify anyone that has reduced congestion but here are some things I would like Washington State to take a look at.

Get more busses running and coordinated with signal controller technology to give busses priority at intersections; More high-occupancy vehicle lanes; Road Pricing (involves charging motorists directly for driving on a particular road or in a particular area); Congestion Pricing (which is Road Pricing with higher rates during congested periods.) It can reduce traffic congestion on a particular roadway. We do need to work towards mass transit and some of the tolling will help to pay for it.

Modern Roundabouts are an alternative to stop signs and traffic signals at small and medium-size intersections that can reduce stopping requirements.

We need to either retrofit or rebuild the Alaskan Way viaduct having two different heights next to each other (three lanes each). We need the same capacity and rate of speed of 50 mph. It is still a life-line.

We need a much better plan than what the mayor is pushing for the Mercer Street fix--one that actually does eliminate congestion. I would like to see a connection from Elliott and go either over or under 99 that then connect to I-5. No additional stop lights on 99 as some people are discussing.

We need to apply for more federal funding to pay for congestion-battling plans.

We have been having “congestion by design” here with the hopes of getting people out of their cars. People are staying out of the city all-together and this harms business.

Posted by Leslie Bloss | August 17, 2008 6:57 PM

I like your little campaign you have going on in here. Can I have a bumper sticker? Maybe some pencils?

Posted by Mr. Poe | August 17, 2008 7:20 PM

Leslie, thank you so much for answering my question. Did you see how Eyman kept changing the subject instead of giving me a straight answer? Tim is a hoot.

Now, the things you list all sound quite reasonable. So reasonable, in fact, that they were seen as attractive choices by many other cities in the past. More buses. Coordinated signals. Congestion pricing. Big, giant, juicy earmarks in the Federal budget. And so on and so forth. Every one of these things has been tried before, more than once.

Yet neither you, nor Tim Eyman, nor anyone else, can give me one example of congestion going down. At all. In other words, every one of these things has failed, and failed again.

So. The next question is obvious.

Why do you think doing these same things here in Seattle would work in spite of never working anywhere else?

(PS: No pencils for Mr. Poe. Bumper stickers are harmless, but trust me on this: no pencils ever.)

Posted by elenchos | August 17, 2008 7:42 PM

I really, really want some pencils, Leslie.

Posted by Mr. Poe | August 17, 2008 9:03 PM

Are your tattoos fading? Have your piercings left permanent scars and holes in your body? Have you ever noticed what twenty year old tattoos look like on other people. The ink all run into a faded blob. Yuck! Oh well you were cool 2001-2003 now all you have left is the immature snark and your leader Dan Savage the oracle of Slog. OMG What if Dan quits? Who will guide you? Who will entertain you?

Posted by Dan the Sausage sucker | August 17, 2008 10:13 PM

@25: Why must everybody laugh at my mighty sword?

Posted by Amelia | August 17, 2008 11:43 PM

@10 for the knock out of the ballpark win!

@19 for the wonderful follow up.

And @25 and @27 for the pen vs sword clash!

I think Mr. Poe is envious that I only bought him two beers but talked with Amelia.

Posted by Will in Seattle | August 18, 2008 10:17 AM

@24 They have had success with these suggestions in San Francisco.

@23 Sorry no pencils or bumper stickers--how about yard signs!

Posted by Leslie Bloss | August 18, 2008 10:55 AM

@23 Better yet, send me voters and if I make as one of the "top two" you can send me campaign contributions and I will buy pencils!

Posted by Leslie Bloss | August 18, 2008 11:01 AM

Will, why must you be so stupid? Do I really need to spell out what you blatantly misunderstood?

Posted by Mr. Poe | August 18, 2008 12:06 PM

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