Savage Love “Your attitude towards women and porn.”
posted by on July 7 at 10:19 AM
This week’s “Savage Love” included a brief aside about pornography…
As for what constitutes infidelity, well, that is and always will remain a highly subjective matter, WAVP. Every couple gets to decide for themselves just what constitutes infidelity within their own relationship. One couple may draw that line at pornography—well, it’s usually the batshitcrazy half that draws the line at pornography and the sane half concedes the point under duress and “consumes porn” in secret—while the couple next door draws the line at quadruple penetration.
That crack generated a lot of outraged email from women who 1. don’t like porn and 2. don’t appreciate being described as “batshitcrazy” and 3. accused me of being sexist blah blah blah.
But I was careful not to use gendered terms or pronouns in that aside because, you see, I do get mail from gay men and straight women with batshitcazy boyfriends/husbands who object to their porn collections/consumption. But, yes, most of my mail with object-to-porn themes involves a woman doing the batshitcrazy objecting and a straight man doing the consumption-in-secret. And so far all of the mail I’ve received objecting to this week’s batshitcrazy observation has been from women, and most of it went like this: “Porn is bad, mmmkay?”
So when I opened the email with the subject line I used to title this post, well, let’s just say I didn’t expect to read a stirring defense of, well, the text of the email is after the jump. Don’t make the mistake of reading it while attempting to eat a chocolate croissant.
And remember, kids, one man’s pornography is another man’s appetite suppressant.
Mr. S,My name is Zoe Zane. I’m an up-and-coming porn star who does home-made videos and post them on YouTube. I do daring things like smearing lipstick all over my nipples and cleaning it with glass. I’m the first woman to do a livecam show in front of Hundreds of viewers. I have a smoking fetish.
What I find offensive is your attitude towards people with fart fetish or scat. I’ve been doing it for years, along with my friend Lizz, better known as “Queen of Farts”. She used to have a fart fetish forum for fart fetishists. I just think that each one of us is entitled to his opinion. I don’t judge you being gay (and have many gay male friends), so I expect you to be open minded about people with different fetishes some may find offensive or weird. I’m referring to an old post of yours from 2001.
Mr. S, this is my profile.
Also, this is my updated biography up to Jan 2008. I hope you look into it with a neutral point of view.Love and smiles,
Zoe Zane
Zoe was kind enough to include a link to this YouTube video…
I swear I saw that cake recipe in a Tom Douglas cookbook...
that. was. disgusting.
The joker ain't the only fool who'll do anything for you...
Damn. I haven't used a good Juice Newton quote in a long time.
Dan, you typed "bitshitcrazy" twice in the post instead of "batshitcrazy" which I kinda like because it makes it seem like "bitch shit crazy". Which is my summary of the video.
p.s. actually the second one was "bitshitcazy."
One thing that no one talks about when they talk about porn is how much of a turn-off a disgusting voice can be. Zoe Zane here is the new champion of repulsive voices. Farting on the cake isn't too thrilling, either.
Batshitcrazy works on the pro-porn side too.
Well, that is one birthday party I think I might be avoiding this year! A piece of ass, a piece of cake - think I'll pass on both.
Ya know, it's always pretty weird what people fixate on (porn too.) Dan talks about how ugly and repulsive he finds vaginas, but somehow he gets the batshitcrazy emails over some tame porn. I mean, damn, if you're gonna label him sexist over SOMETHING...
PS: Outta curosity, Savage, when would you draw the line between a healthy porn indulgance and an unhealthy porn addiction? Once a day for the average male ages 14-45 is pretty norm, right?
@7: Marty, I think by definition, the "average" male is the norm.
What happened on your 45th birthday, Marty? Watch a Zoe Zane video or something?
I'm so glad I'm at work and can't play that. If I were alone, my curiosity might have gotten the better of me, and I'd be SCARRED FOR LIFE.
Note to fetishists: GLBT acceptance is NOT a bandwagon for "public acceptance" of your personal kinks. There's no national movement to deny you common legal rights. No one gives a damn what you do in your bedroom, so long as you keep it there.
@9 I watched that nice video Dan posted, of course, and could never conceive of anything erotic ever ever again.
Well, that, and I'm a 23 year old female, and my knowledge of retirely masturbation habits is rusty at best.
@7 Yeah, I should probably have paid closer attention when I wrote that sentence... But you get the general query right?
@1,
That's the corniest thing I've ever read.
Go chug some Rize, whiner.
Dan,
Might I make a this insightful contribution? It doesn't really matter if I get permission because I was going to do it anyway. Anyhow, apparently the entire nation of Brazil has no problem with fart facing, face farts, farting in the face or even farting on the face. Maybe Ms. Zane needs to relocate.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=eb8972d2f4
Love,
Sicked Out
I'm not going to look at it!
hee hee hee... farts hee heee heeeeee
F A R T
Yeah, I used to get a little batshitcrazy over my boyfriend's porn collections. The attitude developed when I was working in an adult bookstore/video rental place (remember those quaint, pre-Internet establishments?) and equated every porn consumer with the lowlife pervs that entered the store.
I still have problems with "X is not representational of Y" but in my new role as a political media consultant, it doesn't matter that much.
I didn't watch the video... but am I the only one who giggled after reading, "fart fetish forum for fart fetishists"? Comedic gold, this one is.
I have nothing to say about fart fetishes, but I do feel compelled to weigh in on the porn issue. I don't like porn and as a porn-hater (and a woman) I feel perfectly comfortable with the batshitcrazy label for people who equate watching porn with cheating. I think there's a none to fine line between not liking porn and thinking that "consuming" it is tantamount to cheating...or maybe it is fine line...maybe consuming porn could be considered cheating if it, to use some nice legalese, alienates affection (i.e. if someone watches so much porn that they no longer want to engage in real life sexual acts with their more than willing spouse or siginificant other)...but even then I'd still say it's very bad, and maybe a deal breaker, but it's not the same thing as cheating. I also don't like tomatoes but I would call eating tomatoes cheating unless my lover was eating them off of another person's genitals.
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