Slog - Comments on The Saga of Chelsea Alvarez-Bell Continues, This Time With Journalistic Brow-Furrowing http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue From Slog to Gawker to a new Time.com think-piece about the cruelty of commenters: By LEV GROSSMAN Last month a woman who worked for the Stranger, an alternative weekly in Seattle, quit in a huff. She had been writing for the paper's blog, the Slog. The problem was the comments people were making on her posts. She couldn't stand them anymore. "The word I would use is cruel," she wrote in her sign-off. Actually, if cruel was all they were, she got off pretty easy... The horribleness of commenters isn't really a mystery: Internet anonymity is disinhibiting, and people are... Copyright 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:05:31 -0800 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:20:44 -0800 http://www.movabletype.org/?v=3.34 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Comment by mackro mackro Eli, your momma wears combat boots.

Feal the meanness.

Grrrr.

]]> mackro mackro http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071546 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071546 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:10:29 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Chelsea has no idea how much she's done for me. She's practically licked my anus.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071548 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071548 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:11:10 -0800 Comment by mackro mackro Oh wait...

first!

]]> mackro mackro http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071549 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071549 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:11:38 -0800 Comment by Non We got the Stranger mentioned on Time.

You should be jizzing yourself and thanking us.

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071551 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071551 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:16:11 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways I wonder if any of the yobs at Time bothered to read her posts or the comments.

The commentators responded with rage because her writing sucked and wasn't up to the standards of The Stranger and Slog, low that they may be. It's that simple.

Time to stop beating this horse to death; NEXT!

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071552 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071552 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:16:22 -0800 Comment by Non Isn't this a point I tried to make to Dan Savage about his bulldog posts in which he got all defensive?

"Internet content is based on advertising, which means it’s based on traffic volume, and comments mean traffic."

]]> Non http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071553 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071553 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:17:48 -0800 Comment by elenchos Anonymous commenters are what they are complaining about. Most of these print media that have jumped on the web in the last few years, including The Slog, have gone for anonymous commenting, as if that's the only way to do it. And they act like killfiles, registration, self-policing rating systems, and so on are some radical notion they aren't quite ready to try.

Not that I expect much insight from somebody who is still parroting that "shocked, shocked!" catchphrase.

]]> elenchos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071556 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071556 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:19:01 -0800 Comment by Still hate Chelsea Fuck! I fear she may get a book deal out of all this attention. I vote to never mention her again. But answer me this...Does the Slog keep posting her name in hopes of making up the money in ad-revenue that they paid her snivilling ass to come back?

]]> Still hate Chelsea http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071559 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071559 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:20:01 -0800 Comment by lark Eli,
Yeah, I recall her and commenters' postings. She seemed pretty upset when she left the Slog. I agree there is genuine meanness in some of the postings (I have received some of them). Kind of ashame she was driven away. I believe blogs are like kitchens, they generate much heat. Clearly, if one doesn't like it, get out. When, I get irritated at someone's outlandish views, commentary or even personal insult, I do one of two things. I retort civily and usually sarcastically or I move on to the next blog subject. When blogging on the internet one must be thick-skinned. Otherwise, don't bother.

]]> lark http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071561 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071561 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:20:50 -0800 Comment by oh come on Slog writers are the problem. ECB isn't afraid to call fellow bloggers "complete fucking assholes" as she did earlier this week. ECB isn't afraid to call out local columnists by name and insult them, as she did earlier this week. ECB isn't afraid to distort facts any which way to make her foolish arguments.

Commenters are going to push back hard. We don't get to write the headlines. Maybe if the Slog wasn't full of crap crap crap the comments would be more nice. I think the evidence for this is that some writers here get a lot of crap and others do not. Hmmm

]]> oh come on http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071563 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071563 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:21:25 -0800 Comment by JC How far is she going to ride this thing? Has she got a teary-eyed appearance on Oprah booked yet? I'd never heard of her until all of this, but I now officially think of her as the world's biggest crybaby. Yeah, I'm mean and cruel, up here in my anonymous internet ivory tower.

]]> JC http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071564 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071564 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:21:38 -0800 Comment by laterite Didn't care then; don't care now.

]]> laterite http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071565 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071565 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:23:13 -0800 Comment by monkey Lifetime movie of the week starring Valerie Bertonelli.

]]> monkey http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071566 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071566 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:23:32 -0800 Comment by poppy elenchos: They've been testing out user registration at the Portland Mercury's blog for the past couple weeks. It looks like they've been working on it quite a while -- it looks great.

]]> poppy http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071568 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071568 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:23:53 -0800 Comment by Nora @11: I'm kinda with you on this. I've actually been reading Chelsea Alvarez-Bell's blog because I wanted to see what so charmed the Stranger that they decided to have her as a guest blogger--and her blog is boooooorrrrrinnnggggg...

]]> Nora http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071569 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071569 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:25:29 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Also,

SHE DIDN'T WORK FOR THE STRANGER.

God.

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071570 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071570 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:27:24 -0800 Comment by Fnarf What people like Time, and Chelsea Alvarez-Bell, don't seem to realize is that this has been going on for a quarter of a century, in Usenet. It's a game. It's no more offensive than the shock humor of Lenny Bruce was offensive.

Not that I'm calling myself Lenny Bruce. But this process is completely obvious to anyone who's been around for more than ten minutes. Remember when Chelsea first got here? I was all "oh, you're going to get it", and then a minute later when the attacking team was assembled, I switched over to defense to make it fairer.

It's a medium for pleasurable jousting, that's all.

And what happened to Chelsea wouldn't even break the top one thousand wars on Usenet, believe me.

Time's writer is being stupid, and stupid in a particularly naive way. Oh, sure, "in another decade or two, one side or the other will have won out", just like people in cowboy bars have taken to drinking tea with their pinkies extended.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071571 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071571 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:30:39 -0800 Comment by jmr We got the Stranger mentioned on Time.

Does this even matter nowadays? What next, Katie Couric gives The Stranger a mention?

]]> jmr http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071578 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071578 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:37:37 -0800 Comment by Dingo Rossi The poor offended writer that Time mentions only got a small dose of the shit that people give ECB every time she posts something on here that exposes her brand of woeful ignorance to the world.

]]> Dingo Rossi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071579 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071579 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:37:38 -0800 Comment by Hernandez Why won't this Chelsea Alvarez-Bell saga just die?

Seriously, it's just a stain on the history of the Slog. A horrible confluence of vapid blogging (Chelsea), over-the-top flaming (Poe, JTC and many others), and retarded appeasement (Keck).

I just want to forget that it ever happened.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071580 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071580 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:37:40 -0800 Comment by Fly-Over Illinois The writers actually read the comments and cry when they aren't nice?

]]> Fly-Over Illinois http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071581 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071581 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:37:53 -0800 Comment by Abby Ahh, you squid brains.

]]> Abby http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071587 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071587 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:42:52 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways Well, technically, since Keck gave her money, she ended up being an employee of sorts.

I wonder if they made her pay tax on it? And is it taxable as earned income, or as a gift?

Call the IRS, STAT!

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071588 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071588 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:43:22 -0800 Comment by Fnarf I liked Chelsea. I thought she was great. Her posts weren't any more vacuous than some of the regulars (or ours, during Freaky Fridays). And so-called frivolous posts are just as important to a blog as the heavy ones, maybe more so.

And Mr. Poe, she DID work for The Stranger. Regular staff? No, but neither are many of the regular names on Slog and Line Out. Blog posts are work.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071594 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071594 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:50:26 -0800 Comment by harold My biggest issue with what this is all suggesting, and what many seem to just shrug off, is that accepting that the internet is full of assholes. That doesn't mean its ok.

Fundamentalistic asshole-ness isn't any different then being a fundie christian. "oh we're all nice in real life"...so are most fundie-christians when they're going about their daily business.

]]> harold http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071595 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071595 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:51:07 -0800 Comment by Mike in MO So many thoughts...

First and foremost, it must be said again: WE'RE FUCKING FAMOUS FOR BEING MEAN AND MAKING A GIRL CRY!!!! I don't know about the rest of you, but that is the greatest thing ever!

Second, maybe I'm just naturally evil, but I just can't believe people would really get bent outta shape over some dumb comments on a blog post. Maybe it is just years of desensitivity listening to Howard Stern...

Also, In another decade or two, one side or the other will have won out...Is there any doubt who will win this imaginary war? Polite people never win against assholes with no souls or conscience.

Finally, whoever is cleverest and pushes the most buttons wins...is there any doubt Mr. Poe takes this one?

]]> Mike in MO http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071597 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071597 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:51:31 -0800 Comment by Hernandez Oh wait, I forgot to add the most amusing part of the equation: "old-school" Sloggers like Meinert and Kerri Harrop chiming in during the whole saga to extol the virtues of what Slog "used to be". I found those bits of revisionism to be just precious.

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071600 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071600 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:51:53 -0800 Comment by exelizabeth I have no idea who this Chelsea person is, because I haven't really read Slog much these days. Because of the commenters. I did the guest Slogging back in March and I didn't really read the comments on my posts. And then I stopped reading comments on anyone's posts, and then I just stopped reading. I didn't leave in a huff, I just got sick of it and drifted away.

There are other sites where I actually like the community, so I hang out on those. And, to be fair, there are people who come onto those site and are like, "You guys are so meeeeean!" I guess it's about finding your little corner of the internet with a moderation policy (or lack thereof) that you can get behind. Slog sure isn't it for me. The commenters here have ensured The Stranger doesn't my page views, but you can't please everyone and there are other people who are drawn here instead of me.

]]> exelizabeth http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071602 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071602 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:55:01 -0800 Comment by kinaidos "I dare you to find me something more boring than someone correcting another person’s grammar," wrote Chelsea. Well we have a winner: someone writing a story about someone whining about someone correcting another person's grammar.

]]> kinaidos http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071603 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071603 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 09:55:09 -0800 Comment by Mr. Poe Fnarf, if you call that work, well...even if it is, she most certainly didn't do any "work".

]]> Mr. Poe http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071615 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071615 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:02:28 -0800 Comment by Gabriel To a certain extent, I agree with Fnarf that in this kind of medium you should expect to take some shit, and that it's part of the game. The stuff that I thought was way overboard with the whole Chelsea thing was that commenters started telling her to just kill herself or shoot herself - nasty stuff in that vein.

]]> Gabriel http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071617 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071617 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:03:45 -0800 Comment by PopTart Is this a cautionary tale of how we are losing our humanity on the Internet? I sometimes think it is a sign of how we are becoming more intellectually lazy. "Fuck you, your idea is stupid" is quicker and easier to write than a thoughtful analysis explaining why the idea is stupid.

Regardless, after re-reading my posts, I stand behind most of what I've posted here on Slog. I'd say most of it in the "real world", well except the sex stuff, I probably wouldn't say the sex stuff...

p.s. I'm happy to learn that Mr. Poe was able to make lemonade from the lemons.

]]> PopTart http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071619 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071619 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:04:45 -0800 Comment by tiffany chelsea ding dong bell
when shall we be fully rid of you

]]> tiffany http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071620 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071620 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:06:50 -0800 Comment by former editor It's not just a catch phrase. It's a great movie. The origin of "shocked, shocked":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM_A4Skusro

]]> former editor http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071621 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071621 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:10:43 -0800 Comment by umvue time.com=evil. timecube.com=

EARTH HAS 4 CORNER
SIMULTANEOUS 4-DAY
TIME CUBE
IN ONLY 1 EARTH ROTATION.
4 Corner TIME, CUBES EARTH.
If a God existed, he would be EVIL
to DENY 4 Opposite Corner Days.
NOTE: Paired Opposite Arrows on
drawing exists only as Opposites -
cancelling to nothing as One/Entity.
Composed of Opposites, Earth has
Zero Existence, as One is Nothing...

]]> umvue http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071626 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071626 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:13:44 -0800 Comment by Julie The thing that surprises me a lit about Slog is that in a way, for the regulars anyways, it is not a truly anonymous forum. Alot of you people know each other in real life, from going to Slog Happy or other things... And yet, you are still oftentimes assholes online. I understand people who are assholes anonymously, but you would think that the "real life" aspect would cut down on that.

I agree with PopTart about the whole intellectually lazy thing. Easier to say shut the fuck up and kill yourself than to draft a coherent counter-argument. There are a few here who this usually doesn't apply to, though (Fnarf comes to mind).

]]> Julie http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071630 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071630 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:20:40 -0800 Comment by So THAT'S where he went Slog vs. Gawker in DeathMatch '08
http://gawker.com/tag/the-internets/?i=5024302&t=blog-commenters-commented-on-again-ours-still-better

]]> So THAT'S where he went http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071635 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071635 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:24:46 -0800 Comment by jmr It's not just a catch phrase. It's a great movie.

Perhaps Chelsea could have watched this movie to learn to take a more detached view regarding commenters.

Peter Lorre: "You despise me, don't you?"
Bogie: "Well, if I gave you any thought I probably would."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxNYZdQaC44

]]> jmr http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071636 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071636 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:25:22 -0800 Comment by mirror Casablanca may be the greatest movie of all time. Its definately my favorite of favorites. I can watch it over and over and still love it.

]]> mirror http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071641 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071641 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:34:12 -0800 Comment by askljdklasjdklasjdklasjd @37

There is no death match. And he seems to spend most of his time on defamer. WHY THE NAME CHANGE

]]> askljdklasjdklasjdklasjd http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071643 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071643 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:37:08 -0800 Comment by Abby I never wanted to kill. I am not naturally evil. These things I do just to make myself more attractive to you, have I failed?

]]> Abby http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071648 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071648 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:40:08 -0800 Comment by PopTart Gawker has lured Mr. Poe from us, war should be declared. Gackers and Sloggers can meet in Iowa and duke this out. We could take those NY pseudo intellectuals in a heartbeat. Especially if Bob joins us.

]]> PopTart http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071653 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071653 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:41:41 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Making lemons out of lemonade is much more fun, don't you think?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071656 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071656 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:44:51 -0800 Comment by WHY IS EVERYONE LEAVING SLOG AMY NICK STEIN POE FEIT ____ ______ ______

]]> WHY IS EVERYONE LEAVING SLOG http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071664 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071664 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:49:09 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV Perhaps its best that Mr. Poe moves on--his ability to shock and appall here has been waning for quite some time.

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071669 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071669 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:51:22 -0800 Comment by Fnarf Gawker? Poe on Gawker? This is a tragedy. A betrayal, even.

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071679 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071679 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:58:01 -0800 Comment by UNPAID BLOGGER I'm still mystified as to why Chelsea got so much heat in the first place... yeah, her posts may have been light fluff- but I've always found Slog to be a unique mix of light and intellectual posts, with a liberal dose of ranting mixed in. The variety is what makes it so interesting to read.

I always had a sneaking suspicion the commenters on her posts were overly critical out of shear spite for someone who was given Slog privileges over them, just as these same people seem to crop up to raze the Freaky Friday guest bloggers.

In any case, she really should have taken a page from the playbook of Charles and ECB and grown a thicker skin.

]]> UNPAID BLOGGER http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071698 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071698 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:12:24 -0800 Comment by NapoleonXIV There's not a lot of tolerance for vapidity here. Vapidness. Vapititude?

We don't like vapid peeps.

]]> NapoleonXIV http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071705 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071705 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:16:14 -0800 Comment by reverend dr dj riz i'm stiff miffed that chelsea got paid for gettin her feelings hurt. i got my feelings hurt on slog and i didn't even get a lousy t shirt.
is it because i'm black ?.. is it because i'm BLACK !!???

]]> reverend dr dj riz http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071710 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071710 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:18:02 -0800 Comment by The Incredible Sulk Kelly O and Ari Spool give umvue can of Rize, umvue drink Rize, freak out, Chaz out, UMVUE BECOME CHARLES MUDEDE!

CHAZ WILL SMASH OPPRESSIVE CARTESIAN CONCEPT OF LINEAR TIME!

And no, I don't feel like letting it go.

]]> The Incredible Sulk http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071715 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071715 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:21:53 -0800 Comment by PopTart @50's got you there umvue, your post was a bit Mudede.

@48 For the record, I don't like marshmallow peeps either.

]]> PopTart http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071780 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071780 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:55:00 -0800 Comment by I'm black! Really! @49

Yes.

]]> I'm black! Really! http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071784 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071784 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:57:04 -0800 Comment by Amanda Knox I would kill to know what Chelsea thinks about all of this and also wonder if she is the one who posted @ 24.

]]> Amanda Knox http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071792 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071792 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:59:09 -0800 Comment by umvue @50
You are educated stupid -
and you have no inkling to
just how EVIL you think. You SnotBrains will know
hell for ignoring TimeCube.
I do not promote or suggest
anyone killing you, but you
are unfit to live on Earth.

]]> umvue http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071796 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071796 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:00:29 -0800 Comment by elswinger Some of the commenters take things way too personally. They take criticism of their post as a personal attack on them. Some, like Charles, bring it on themselves. At this point I can see Charles masturbating as he reads every complaint (OK, that was a personal attack). ECB also takes too many posts as personal attack. Why don't you take the cue of many in the film and literary business and not read your reviews?

]]> elswinger http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071829 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071829 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:13:52 -0800 Comment by keshmeshi @55,

What the fuck are you talking about? ECB almost never responds to comments on her posts, whether legitimate criticisms or personal attacks. Are you pretending to be some sort of mind reader?

]]> keshmeshi http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071897 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071897 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:47:11 -0800 Comment by COMTE @23:

Technically, she could have been classified as an "independent contractor" under state and federal labor law, so definitely NOT an "employee" as the Time piece indicated.

Also, because she was only paid $200, Mr. Keck would not be obligated to file a 1099 with the IRS on her behalf, since she earned less than the $600 annual minimum for reporting.

]]> COMTE http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071956 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071956 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:14:26 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball @55, please pay no attention to @56's anger. She is not lashing out at you; instead, she's transferring her florid fecundity for Bellevue Avenue into rage at you.

As soon as BA puts cream filling in her Yoo-Hoo, everything will return to normal.

Carry on.

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071961 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071961 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:15:40 -0800 Comment by Joh, womanizer professional @41

If you were any more attractive I'd have to buy stock in vasaline.

Love,

Me

]]> Joh, womanizer professional http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071965 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071965 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:17:21 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball *Ho-Ho (not Yoo-Hoo).

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071966 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071966 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:17:24 -0800 Comment by Hernandez @60 I would've also accepted "Hoo-Ha", "Hey-Ho" and "Vagina".

]]> Hernandez http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071971 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071971 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:20:53 -0800 Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball @61, I appreciate your near-elastic flexibility. Much like a Hoo-Ha, Hey-Ho, or Vagina.

]]> Jubilation T. Cornball http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071976 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071976 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:23:53 -0800 Comment by michael strangeways Please don't shit on my parade...

]]> michael strangeways http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071981 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071981 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:25:26 -0800 Comment by irl I never commented on her posts her posts reminded me of some goody two shoes trying to fit in with the rough crowd by saying fuck waaaay too many times. Seemed to me most of the topics were sorority girl crap - like exfoliating for crying out loud? This isn’t Glamour Girl - it’s a nitty gritty city rag.
Her fluff didn't fit in with Slogs fluff. Slogs fluff is at least interesting, pertinent to our area and often something I might think about later or bring up in conversation with someone later in the day. She was lame and her posts uninteresting. What a cry baby and a quitter - even if she did come back to win $1 per comment and tell us how she won. I think Slog readers were the winners - we didn't have to read that goofy, girlie drivel any longer.

]]> irl http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071986 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1071986 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:28:42 -0800 Comment by Fnarf You got a problem with girlie, Mr. Tough Guy?

]]> Fnarf http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1072048 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1072048 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:22:10 -0800 Comment by nait There are people who respect and appreciate the fine line between being clever and just being an asshole, and there are those who don't, won't, or simply can't comprehend the distinction. The latter are called social retards, and the Internet just happens to be their primary enabling mechanism.

I'd expect anyone with a comments-enabled blog to understand that, so...I guess it's great that The Stranger is rid of a Slogger who doesn't. Good for you, Slog!

All of a sudden I want a nice tall glass of Yoo-Hoo...

]]> nait http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1072105 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1072105 2008 Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:49:27 -0800 Comment by codisimo To #53- She doesn't give a hoot about all this silliness and frankly is surprised people are still rambling about this. For everyone else who seems to enjoy the tediousness of beating a dead horse with the skeletal remains of a horse.
Here's the about the closest thing to the "deal": this entire event has been dragged out by the commenters themselves. If you hated her writing, you certainly had the webpage tracking system fooled. Not to mention the money generated by the ads, her writing was quite profitable for the Slog. Your 'witty' comments are what brought this retarded moment into existence.
In conclusion, you made your own mess. Chelsea didn't.
Oh, and one last thing Mr. Poe, The Special Olympics want their medal back, apparently using the same dis over and over again is considered retarded not special.

]]> codisimo http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1075170 http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/the_saga_of_chelsea_alvarezbell_continue#c1075170 2008 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 22:20:44 -0800