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Doesn't Portland have these "Shanghai tunnels" as well?
Portland, Seattle, Port Townsend and I believe Astoria all had "Shanghai tunnels" build under their cities near the docks. These had little or nothing to do with Chinese residents or Chinatowns, however. They were so named because people kidnapped through these tunnels would be conscripted to work on a ship as crew, and Shanghai was the furthest port that the Northwest shipping routes served. As far as I've read (or heard on Portland's Shanghai tunnel tour - go see it next time you're in PDX) the usual victims of the kidnappings were either seamen from other ships on leave, or loggers in town for their monthly get-drunk-and-get-laid trips.
The tunnels in Portland run underneath some of the oldest bars and businesses in the old part of town. You can look up and see trap doors that dropped down into the tunnels - and when above-ground in the bars, see the trap doors in the floor that would drop down into the tunnels. There is a pile of shoes and broken glass - the means of keeping the kidnapping victims down under until a ship was leaving port and needed a few extra hands.
I understand that Seattle's tunnels ran under Pioneer Square, but the fire and rebuild left them unaccessible -- the Underground Tour shows the first floors of the old buildings, and the tunnels would be underneath them.
Every city has legends of "trap doors" and "secret tunnels" that were used to carry off the unsuspecting to a life of slavery in the press gangs. Portland's practically made an industry out of theirs.
Call me skeptical. The only evidence that's ever presented, on the rare occasions when any evidence is, comes from elderly cranks like this guy. To me, it just rings out "urban legend".
I'm willing to believe that the tunnels were USED at times for this purpose, but they certainly were not built for it. Warehousing, longshoring -- Legitimate, legal businesses are the kinds that carry out large-scale building projects in the industrial heart of the city.
Not sure about the existence of the tunnels, but to commemorate/make up Tacoma's injustice to its 19th century Chinese residents, it's about to open a new park on the Sound. See http://www.crpftacoma.org/
why does that bldgblog post come off as not just skeptical of the purported uses of the tunnels, but of their actual existence?
i was waiting for the snarky, "it's even been rumored that seattle has some sort of 'underground,'--some say there was a 'fire' in the late 19th century that may have resulted in the regrading of the early pioneer square neighborhood, leaving the fabled 'original' streets and storefronts below ground. as if..."
uh, why go to all the trouble and money to build tunnels specifically for this purpose? Seems a little unlikely.
And, WHY doesn't Tacoma have a Chinatown? What's the real story?
I'm expecting it to be sordid and full of bigotry and lynchings.
what #6 said. a tunnel like that would have been built by the city, not pirates.
Man . . . just couldn't resist gratuitously busting out the Goethe, could you?
@6: I dunno, good old American racism?
What came to be known as "Tacoma method" was used in November 1885 to expel several thousand Chinese peaceably living in the city. As described by the account prepared by the Chinese Reconciliation Project, on the morning of November 3, 1885, "several hundred men, led by the mayor and other city officials, evicted the Chinese from their homes, corralled them at 7th Street and Pacific Avenue, marched them to the railway station at Lakeview and forced them aboard the morning train to Portland, Oregon. The next day two Chinese settlements were burned to the ground."
uh, try going to 38th between pacific and the mall and tell me thats not china town, chineese laterns on the poles, grocery mart and resteraunts. looks like a chinatown to me
yep, by cracky, i'll be headin' down to that neck of the woods to takes me a gander at them there "chineese laterns" and mebbe gits me a bite to eat at some "resteraunts" before burnin' down a chineetown or two...
You should check out the Shanghai Tunnels in Boise. Those are some long tunnels!
Forget it, Charles. It's Chinatown.
michael strangeways, report to your shrink asap.
There's a PacNW blogger who has no shortage of info about things like this, anti-Asian racism, sundown towns, etc etc.
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