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<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was</link>
<description>Craft vendors in Pike Place Market, 1975 Madison Park beach, 1930 More more more at the hours-devouring Seattle Municipal Archives photostream of Flickr....</description>
<copyright>Copyright 2008</copyright>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:01:07 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by T</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>"Pile" Place Market?</p>

<p>Freudian slip much?</p>]]></description>
<author>T</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1088997</link>
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<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:23:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by David Schmader</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Har! Whoops, fixed.</p>]]></description>
<author>David Schmader</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089065</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089065</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:29:55 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by hillpagan</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Commie queers.</p>]]></description>
<author>hillpagan</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089121</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089121</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:34:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by el ganador</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Huh. Only white people on the beach in 1930. Go figure.</p>]]></description>
<author>el ganador</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089196</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089196</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:41:39 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Dominic Holden</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I guess people didn't need towels to lay on the grass at Madison Park before the geese invaded...<br />
</p>]]></description>
<author>Dominic Holden</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089378</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089378</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:02:50 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>El Ganador, how many people of color do you think even lived in Washington State in 1930? Fewer than 3%. Fewer than 7,000 black people in the entire state.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089402</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089402</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:05:53 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Hernandez</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@5 Nonsense.  People were heartier and more resilient back in those days.  There was poop everywhere, but they just sat on it and didn't complain.  Life was simpler then.</p>]]></description>
<author>Hernandez</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089443</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089443</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:11:35 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by crk on bellevue ave</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>At least Madison Beach served the surrounding community more than Pike Place Market does.  Until Pike Place is open until at least 8pm, it is nothing more then a quaint tourist trap.  I love the produce vendors there... but 6pm?  Too early for me.</p>]]></description>
<author>crk on bellevue ave</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089492</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089492</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:18:54 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Dominic Holden</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@7) I declare hogwash on your accusation of nonsense! </p>

<blockquote><a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/pacificnw07172005/coverstory.html" rel="nofollow">SEATTLE'S CANADA goose story begins in 1968</a>. Before then, geese did not nest west of the Cascade Mountains. Lack of habitat had historically prevented the birds from making homes on the wet side of the mountains, although they migrated through. By the early 1960s, however, Seattleites had replaced the primary barriers to geese — big trees and dense understory along shorelines — with lush parks, yards and golf courses.</blockquote>

<p>Miserable creatures, but I'll bet we wouldn't gas them if they were called the America Goose...</p>]]></description>
<author>Dominic Holden</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089587</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089587</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:35:22 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by I Heart Real Estate Convenants!</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@4: Different from today how...?</p>]]></description>
<author>I Heart Real Estate Convenants!</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089730</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089730</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:54:06 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>It's 2008 and I bet those stinky hippies are STILL selling crafts (made out of Kucinich for President buttons) and STILL haven't taken a bath.</p>

<p>Stinky.  Stinky hippies.</p>]]></description>
<author>Jubilation T. Cornball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089850</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089850</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:13:19 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I think you'd look good in some dangly earrings, Jube.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089951</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1089951</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:31:01 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by jackseattle</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Amazing powers of photo selection Mr Schmader!!  That's my sister-in-law in the Market Vendors photo, and my mother (as a teen, but not a teen mother) is on Madison Beach!!!</p>]]></description>
<author>jackseattle</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090081</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090081</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 13:57:13 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Jubilation T. Cornball</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>@13, j'accuse!  You are the brother-in-law of a hippy!</p>]]></description>
<author>Jubilation T. Cornball</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090337</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090337</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:04:34 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Cascadian</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Fnarf @6:</p>

<p>There weren't a lot of black people in Seattle in 1930, but almost all of them lived within travel distance of Madison Park. See this <a href="http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/display.cgi?image=segregated/schmidt black 1920.png" rel="nofollow">map</a> from 1920. By chance you'd expect some black faces on that beach unless they were being excluded.</p>

<p>And what about the large <a href="http://depts.washington.edu/civilr/display.cgi?image=segregated/schmidt%20japanese%201920.jpg" rel="nofollow">Japanese</a> and Chinese population. Where are they in the picture?</p>]]></description>
<author>Cascadian</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090629</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090629</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:56:02 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm not saying they weren't excluded -- I don't know -- but their numbers, and those of Asians, were really, really low. 23,000 Asians in the entire state, fewer than 7,000 blacks.  Maybe half those numbers in the city.</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090708</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090708</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:46:41 -0800</pubDate>
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<title>Comment by Fnarf</title>
<description><![CDATA[<p>Also, only a tiny portion of the people in the photo can be identified by race. Most of them are black dots in the water. What race are they?</p>]]></description>
<author>Fnarf</author>
<link>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090710</link>
<guid>http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/07/same_as_it_ever_was#c1090710</guid>
<category>City</category>
<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:48:19 -0800</pubDate>
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