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Posted by bob | July 2, 2008 11:09 AM
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Kitties are just better. Unless they suck the air from your lungs while you sleep...definitely gotta watch out for that.

Posted by Jubilation T. Cornball | July 2, 2008 11:11 AM
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so put it on your daily rant list of every child, youth pastor, etc. and STFU.

Posted by menelaus | July 2, 2008 11:18 AM
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Dammit, I just tried to post a series of links to other recently reported dog attacks, but apparently more than 2 URLs == spam comment. Bah.

Posted by leek | July 2, 2008 11:18 AM
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Nitroglycerin is only dangerous in the hands of somebody who is behaving irresponsibly, or somebody whose hands shake. Responsible owners know that, as long as it is handled at all times with the utmost of care, nitroglycerin usually doesn't explode and blow everybody in the vicinity to smithereens. Any attempts to regulate possession of nitroglycerin will only create an underground market for it and punish the owners who behave responsibly and whose hands don't shake.

Do you want to see a world where only the criminal element can get its shaky, shaky hands on nitro while law-abiding citizens are forbidden from keeping it in their homes and raising their children around its many benefits?

Posted by flamingbanjo | July 2, 2008 11:18 AM
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At the very least, keep posting these with cute pitbull puppy pictures. it makes the bitter pill easier to swallow.

Posted by UNPAID BLOGGER | July 2, 2008 11:19 AM
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dude. you got a hard-on for this thing. give it a rest.


Dear Science, can you lend some well-needed stats/factual evidence here (either way) to Dan's crusade, otherwise he's going to rub it raw.

Posted by ho' know | July 2, 2008 11:23 AM
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@1 - Dan's post isn't an example of confirmation bias; unless you can prove that dan knowingly hid stories of Pit Bulls saving babies from fires, you don't have a valid point.

@5 - you realize you just compared a breed of dog to an explosive? Nitroglycerin is DANGEROUS all the time, regardless of someone having shakey hands or not using it "appropiately"; it's DEADLY if it isn't handled properly. Your analoogy failed miserably.

Posted by darek | July 2, 2008 11:29 AM
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@8 Anal loogy? The mental image just made me ill.

Posted by Yes, I'm immature like that | July 2, 2008 11:33 AM
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HAHA! The unintentional funny of the day goes to...

Posted by darek | July 2, 2008 11:35 AM
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Golob has weighed in:

Breed mattering is another way of saying genes matter. If you artificially select dogs to be violent, they'll be violent. Combine breeding for violent temper with breeding for strong jaw muscles and large size and you have an unwelcome combination. It's also worth noting that breeding for a dog the size and shape of a terrier does not require breeding for bad and uncontrollable temper.

To insist on having a badly tempered, strongly muscled large dog as a pet is like insisting on the right to drive a backhoe to work each day. Yes, if you as the owner act perfectly, most likely nobody will get hurt; there just isn't much room for error.

Yes, pit bulls can be sweet, kind, gentle dogs. Can be. The breed has been mis-selected so long, it's understandable for a stranger to assume your pit bull is capable of injurious violence; the data backs up his or her suspicions.

http://slog.thestranger.com/2008/06/more_grist_for_the_maul

Posted by Dan Savage | July 2, 2008 11:37 AM
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Another comment, another dollar!

Posted by Dan_Savage_Is_A_Latent_Speciesist | July 2, 2008 11:39 AM
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too bad you can't see it's junk in the photo - fixed/unfixed seems to be one of 2 crucial factors.

the other being the socio-economic standing of the owner.

Posted by max solomon | July 2, 2008 11:51 AM
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Remember the well-publicized incident where two dogs killed a young woman in the hallway of her apartment building? Must have been about 8 years ago or so, or maybe more? Ah, found it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presa_Canario

These dogs aren't very popular, but I suspect they will become so when the pit bull ban is enacted.

Posted by Nora | July 2, 2008 11:54 AM
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Posted by yardlie | July 2, 2008 11:56 AM
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@14,

Presa Canarios are often mistaken for pit bulls, apparently.

Posted by keshmeshi | July 2, 2008 11:58 AM
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Well, I give up.

Can't take anymore of the Savage "God said it. I believe it. That settles it." posts.

Posted by umvue | July 2, 2008 12:00 PM
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In Seattle do they destory any dog that attacks people like these pit bulls do? If they don't they should. And preferably kill it in front of the family that owns it.

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | July 2, 2008 12:01 PM
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The irresponsible owner will be held responsible (read: "sued"), and the dog will be put down. No need to punish the vast majority of responsible owners with well-trained, socialized dogs. Breed Specific Legislation is the wrong approach.

Posted by xxxScottxxx | July 2, 2008 12:14 PM
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The irresponsible owner will be held responsible (read: "sued"), and the dog was put down (shot by police). No need to punish the vast majority of responsible owners with well-trained, socialized dogs. Breed Specific Legislation is the wrong approach.

Posted by xxxScottxxx | July 2, 2008 12:15 PM
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Dammit, I want my post of links back. German shepherd, two Rottweilers, a lab mix, two bulldogs, and a "Milo."

Posted by leek | July 2, 2008 12:31 PM
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Nice pic. Gonna be some fine barbecue tonight!

Posted by butterw | July 2, 2008 12:35 PM
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There were a couple of rather controversial experiments done on foxes a while back. The first involved breeding them to be friendly to humans. After just about seven generations (less than 10 years for animals that reach sexual maturity in a year), the foxes were pretty much domesticated. The second, more controversial, experiment involved making those same foxes to be extra vicious, and attack. Same seven generations to make such an animal (all were destroyed for fear they would escape and breed with the wild population). Pit bulls are not so different. I think it would be an unfair assumption to deem ALL pit bulls vicious, and all other breeds as okay. It's really the idiot humans who breed the dogs to be this way - and it can be done with any breed in less than ten years. Ban pit bulls, and those people will do the same to mastiffs, shepards, etc.

Posted by Barbara | July 2, 2008 12:38 PM
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Pit bull's being abused and killed by humans:
http://www.nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/media2.asp

Posted by Barbara | July 2, 2008 1:01 PM
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I went to the Mall of America once. It was an amusing novelty, but I was eight, so I suppose most things with carnival rides were.

Posted by Abby | July 2, 2008 1:09 PM
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@24,

Yes, it is truly sad how the being of that pit bull was abused and killed by humans--not to mention killed by death.

Posted by Cookie W. Monster | July 2, 2008 1:53 PM
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@19,

Civil lawsuits are hardly a deterrence for poor people who own dangerous dogs.

Posted by keshmeshi | July 2, 2008 3:14 PM
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Hey Dan, How bout you change your column name to SAVAGE HATRED?

Indstead of answering sex questions you could list all the ways you want to kill dogs should a breed ban come to pass.(Good luck with that) I think you mentioned a wood chipper? You can elect some sicko (I think Colleen Synn is available)to be your Dr. Mengle and you can really go to town.

ALL breeds of dogs attack. If I chose a breed...yes even a Poodle and sought ONLY Poodle attack info...I could start a little campagin justlike yours. Thankfully, I'm not so full of hatred.
Pick on someone your own species.

Posted by Julie Russell | July 2, 2008 3:59 PM
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Yes, I misspelled campaign.

Errare est humane

Posted by Julie Russell | July 2, 2008 4:06 PM
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24-your link left me in tears.

Posted by Julie Russell | July 2, 2008 4:23 PM
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And at what point will there be any postings from the "other side"? Maybe the media only reports maulings by pit bulls. You can't tell me they're the only breed with an issue like this. I guess in a sense this is pot calling kettle black. You were up in arms about a t.v. show not giving the other side or rebuttal regarding gay couples having children (which I am not against, just using it as an example) yet here people are mocked when we say things about how it boils down to bad owners, not a bad breed.


Posted by carrie | July 3, 2008 6:10 AM
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O.o
Dan I love you but you do seem to have a fetish for finding and posting these stories, and I don't quite know what to make of it.

Posted by Puppycup | July 3, 2008 9:48 AM
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@31 machine guns don't kill people...

Posted by Snarky | July 3, 2008 3:25 PM
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@31 - I bet the media is covering up all of the blackpowder muzzleloader shootings, too!

If it bleeds, it leads. A serious dog attack is going to get coverage in most any local newspaper.

Bob @1 - you're right! Confirmation bias is EVERYWHERE! It's really been getting on my nerves lately, it seems like everywhere I go...

A breed ban may be going too far. Remove breed from the face of the earth? There might be responsible breeders (without macho/small-penis syndrome)... so here's my modest propoal:

This mauling happened on 9th St. eh? Maybe it's my confirmation bias, but it sure seems like these pit bull attacks are happening in places where the streets have numbers. So ban ownership by people residing on streets with numbers or avenues with letters.

Posted by CP | July 3, 2008 4:30 PM

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