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Totally. Cuz god forbid the Times actually make any of the 10 winged monkeys working in editorial create any original content or do any ACTUAL work.

Posted by Scott Walker | July 9, 2008 2:10 PM
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And not even worth reading once!

Posted by David | July 9, 2008 2:16 PM
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Good article. What the hell _is_ Obama doing?

Posted by Vasya | July 9, 2008 2:23 PM
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That shiver of hope has turned to a shudder of revulsion.

Posted by Vince | July 9, 2008 2:24 PM
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And now it's here on your blog! Thanks Dan! You must REALLY want us to read it! Idiot.

Posted by Mr. Poe | July 9, 2008 2:35 PM
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3 Amens to Bob Herbert!

Posted by fluteprof | July 9, 2008 2:40 PM
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It's funny seeing everybody hyperventilate. Seriously, y'all. Just have another drink. It works for me!

Posted by Balt-O-Matt | July 9, 2008 2:45 PM
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In the NYT yesterday: a 5-day weather forecast for Seattle.
In the Seattle Times and Seattle PI today: a 5-day weather forecast for Seattle.

Posted by umvue | July 9, 2008 3:07 PM
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In the NYT Sunday: a distressingly easy crossword puzzle! What's up with that? Now I don't even feel smart getting them done.

Posted by leek | July 9, 2008 3:19 PM
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In the NYT Sunday: a crossword puzzle edited by Will Shortz.

Posted by umvue | July 9, 2008 3:22 PM
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Outta the general region of my brain, umvue!

Posted by leek | July 9, 2008 3:32 PM
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This article was a load of tripe the first time.

Repeating it doesn't change it.

Posted by Will in Seattle | July 9, 2008 3:33 PM
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You cut me to the quick, leek!

Posted by umvue | July 9, 2008 3:51 PM
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Can all of Dan Savage's additions be in red so I know to skip past them and get to things that count of the Slog.

Yes we all know you hate syndicated columnist and pit bulls. Find something new to add to the world.

By the way, Savage Love is printed at different dates anywhere is it? I would hate if it were.

Posted by IHDS | July 9, 2008 4:18 PM
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I've pointed out already that my column isn't printed in more than one paper in the same city.

La la la. Daily papers wonder why they're losing readers. Maybe both dailies in City A running the same columnist from a big national newspaper based in City B—and both running the column on the same day—doesn't help make the case for reading both of City A's daily papers or buying both papers, particularly when many readers in City A subscribe to national edition of City B's paper.

That is all.

Posted by Dan Savage | July 9, 2008 5:22 PM
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Most folks just plain aren't buying that national newspaper Dan, for all sorts of reasons. Folks like you do. (I mean news junkies, not gay guys.)

Facts would help your argument, or mine, and since I don't have the stats, I shut up now.

Posted by CP | July 9, 2008 5:50 PM
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Don't read both, you fucking idiot.

Posted by Mr. Poe | July 9, 2008 7:56 PM
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small fail for democrats, bit win for Libertarians. If you're now surprised and/or disappointed that he's a religious man, you're a tool.

Posted by uncle baggy | July 9, 2008 9:56 PM
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Interesting... CP, you just motivated me to search for some information on NYT circulation in Seattle. According to the data I found from 2006, 21,000 copies of the Sunday newspaper were distributed here (average per week) and 15,000 copies of the weekday newspaper (average per day).

Our metropolitan area population then was about 3,200,000, I think, so there you go. The proof's in the tiny-fraction-of-the-populace pudding.


Posted by leek | July 9, 2008 11:43 PM
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Whoops, DMA (designated market area, in this case the greater metropolitan area of Western WA) was actually ~3,460,000 that year. Damn my misleading ways.

Posted by leek | July 9, 2008 11:50 PM
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This is bullshit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Savage Love a syndicated column that runs in print and online? How is Savage Love's appearance in the Village Voice any different from what you've noted in your post?

Please answer this question.

Posted by nolaseatac | July 10, 2008 12:52 AM
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Exactly @21. Dan will go anywhere where there's money or traffic. He'll bash the Village Voice on the slog, but gladly take their $$$ in the back room to be published in their paper. No one in Seattle will ever notice, right?

In theory, Seattle Weekly could pay for and use his column.

Posted by Dr. Zaius | July 10, 2008 2:48 AM
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When have I bashed the Voice? As for the question, 21...

As i've explained on Slog already... and in this thread already...

Yes, savage love is syndicated—but not to more than one paper in one city. The column may appear in the Village Voice and in the Stranger, but it doesn't appear in the Voice and the New York Press, or in the Chicago tribune and the Chicago Sun-Times. That's the relevant comparison.

We have a JOA to keep seattle a two-daily-newspaper town because having two dailies is supposed to provide us with a variety of viewpoints, opinions, POVs, etc. Both our dailies running the same day-old op-ed columns from the NYT violates the spirit of the JOA, don't you think? Beyond that, it undermines both papers in the long run. Why read both papers if they're running the same AP stories, the same op-ed columns, the same NYT news pieces?

I want both our dailies to survive. I like daily papers. I read daily papers. And I particularly like the op-ed pages of daily papers (I likes opinions). I feel personally cheated when, as a subscriber to both the Seattle Times and PI, I get to the op-ed pages and find the exact same column on both that I read yesterday in the NYT.

Thank you for playing Slog.

Posted by Dan Savage | July 10, 2008 9:48 AM

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