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And like Bush, Bruce Wayne is an overpriveliged egomaniacal sociopath.

Posted by levide | July 25, 2008 10:19 AM
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Posted by Bush or Batman? | July 25, 2008 10:23 AM
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Make a response about how really, it's sad that our leaders outlook on humanity and handling of world affairs is equivalent to that of a comic book or fantasy tale. The real world isn't so stupid and straightforward. What an idiot.

Posted by A | July 25, 2008 10:25 AM
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In that case, in the third movie, Batman should get drunk on his own power and then refuse to give it up.

Posted by keshmeshi | July 25, 2008 10:27 AM
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Well hello, new Add Your Comments box.

Posted by Mr. Poe | July 25, 2008 10:28 AM
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There is the matter of spying on all of Gotham *just this once* because, well, extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures, despite Morgan Freeman pouting about it. I bet Klavan isn't the only one who saw the Dark Knight as a bit Dirty Harry-ish, in that wonderfully right wing way.

Posted by Travis | July 25, 2008 10:33 AM
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I noticed it had turned pale blue yesterday, but now it has a darker blue border and header box! Sweet!

I think there may be something to the kook's argument. Batman has always seemed a little Fascist to me.

Posted by Fnarf | July 25, 2008 10:35 AM
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I have nothing to say to such stupidity. The new comment box is scary and different.

Posted by Cato the Younger Younger | July 25, 2008 10:44 AM
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Batman is the 2nd most boring superhero. Superman is the most boring.

Posted by max solomon | July 25, 2008 10:44 AM
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Poe, you're irrelevent here anymore. Go to your other blogs.

Posted by Non | July 25, 2008 10:44 AM
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That's a great way to compliment our president. Compare him to Batman.

Besides, Bush is much more comparable to Superboy Earth Prime. Or a retarded Jimmy Olson.

Posted by I'm black! Really! | July 25, 2008 10:46 AM
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I would say Bush is more a joker that the Batman. And I hate this stupid new comment box.

Posted by Lee Williams | July 25, 2008 10:47 AM
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For this analogy to truly work, Batman would need to--at the height of the Joker's terror campaign--declare all-out war on the Bookworm and shift all his resources to neutralizing the immanent threat the Bookworm presents to the people of Gotham.

Posted by krzysz | July 25, 2008 10:47 AM
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Look, I get the Wall Street Journal delivered.

Nobody with any sense actually reads the editorial pages, they're used for birdcage liner, or in my case for cleaning up the dog poo from people who can't afford 20 cents for plastic bags.

Posted by Will in Seattle | July 25, 2008 10:51 AM
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It's more apt than you might think, but it also raises serious questions about who is ultimately responsible for the heinous acts: Without Batman, the Joker is nothing but directionless nutcase; with Batman, he's a focused avatar of fear.

I think the movie's too smart to not reflect on current events, but if you call it an apologia you're not paying attention.

Posted by Matt | July 25, 2008 10:56 AM
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Yeah, but Batman caught the Joker.

Posted by Ben Weldon | July 25, 2008 11:00 AM
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Hating on Bush is both appropriate and easy. The man has not been a leader who understands any kind of nuance and what he and his Vice President has done to the core of what makes this country great is truly despicable.

But to be fair, our sworn enemies want to do much, much more than blow up our Wal-marts. Capitulation to insane, fanatical, suicidal religious zealots is not an acceptable strategy. Balancing civil rights with combating this menace will always be a very, very hard thing to do--witness even Saint Obama's vote on the new FISA law as an example.

Posted by Westside forever | July 25, 2008 11:01 AM
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At least batman's phone is plugged in.

Posted by Zack | July 25, 2008 11:05 AM
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Kelly O and Ari Spool give Incredible Hulk can of Rize, Incredible Hulk drink Rize, freak out, get bummed out, INCREDIBLE HULK BECOME DESPONDENT HULK!

DESPONDENT HULK WILL CALL IN SICK, DISCONNECT PHONE, NOT LEAVE APARTMENT ALL WEEKEND!

And no, I don't feel like letting it go.

Posted by The Insatiable Sulk | July 25, 2008 11:05 AM
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I guess he doesn't read the comic books. One of the things Batman struggles with is whether or not he makes things better, or is just doing it because he's crazy.

As Commissioner Gordon says in one, "We didn't have any super villians before you."

Posted by Andrew | July 25, 2008 11:06 AM
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this blog makes the comparison more clear... not that bush=batman but batman=war on terror tactics as pushed by bush...

http://poplicks.com/2008/07/did-bush-adminstration-bankroll-dark.html

Posted by the darker knight | July 25, 2008 11:06 AM
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Stupid, stupid new Add Your Comments box!

Posted by Cookie W. Monster | July 25, 2008 11:07 AM
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While I've always been a fan of the comic Batman, you do have to admit he's a vigilante that wouldn't be tolerated in modern society. Marvel got it more right with the attitude society would have for a freak vigilante in Spiderman and X-Men. DC likes it's world black and white- like the Bush White House.
So it's not a complete asinine comparison. It's just a silly one.

Posted by Enigma | July 25, 2008 11:10 AM
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@11 - Bush is totally Superboy-Prime. When he doesn't get his way, he tries to punch reality away.

Posted by Dave | July 25, 2008 11:20 AM
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i'm sick and tired of hearing about batman.

Posted by sir jorge | July 25, 2008 11:38 AM
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The new Batman flick is rightwing propaganda, especially the cellphone subplot. Of course the whistleblower is nothing more than a blackmailer, and of course the only voice opposed to the idea of spying on everyone in Gotham city goes along with it just this once because don't you know the Joker's a terrist and we gotsta stop him. and of course we can trust the hero to have the program destroyed, and he'd never use it to spy on business competitors, and that guy who was telling somebody what a dick Bruce Wayne is on his cell surely won't have anything to worry about.

Posted by Grendel72 | July 25, 2008 11:41 AM
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The only conclusion I drew from the movie is that I'm a complete tool for paying $10 to see it.

Posted by the dark guano | July 25, 2008 11:51 AM
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Hate to say it, but had the same impression of the movie. It was as if it was attempting to justify invasive surveillance techniques such as have been all the recent rave.

It would just drop those turd bombs in your lamp, and then the pacing was such that you had no chance to reflect on the idea. Just had to move on and follow the plot line, accepting whatever thin justification was provided.

Posted by derek | July 25, 2008 1:01 PM
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Sad to see this, Klavan is a pretty good novelist. Maybe this was just a misidentified piece of fiction?

Posted by BeckyH | July 25, 2008 1:26 PM
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I thought the God King Obama endorsed the wire tapping done by Evil King Bush.

Posted by Vince | July 25, 2008 2:32 PM
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When I saw it I thought exactly the same thing. And it made me very, very angry to think that's probably why the flick made so much money. Keep in mind that half the US voted for Bush and approved of Iraq War II so, naturally, these same folks would come out in droves to watch a film that appealed to their demented sensibilities.

That said it was still an incredibly made movie even though I completely and unequivocally disagree with the message behind it.

Posted by Vin | July 25, 2008 3:35 PM
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Except Bruce put the super-surveillance program in Lucius' hands so that he could destroy it when it was no longer necessary for the immediate crisis.

Except Batman didn't compromise his values by killing the Joker.

Except torturing the Joker produced bad information he intended to leak all along.

So much fail in this article.

Posted by lol | July 25, 2008 4:31 PM
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Ehhhh I noticed all of the similarities, but bruce did put it into morgan freeman's hands (who opposed it) so that it could be destroyed the moment they had the joker. I don't see it as a right wing propaganda film at all. Honestly, I can't see how klavan even made the comparison. So, bush=the emperor anyone?

Posted by anthony | July 25, 2008 6:33 PM
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My acid test for a movie is that if you are in prison, you have nothing to read, tho' you and your cellmates are permitted to talk, you remember and retell movie plots repeatedly, with everything in sequence.

Having just seen "The DarkNight", I would so fail this test. A lot of explosions, walls of sound, a clutch of improbabilities (how do you get a cell phone sewn into your belly without your knowledge?). Who lived, who died (how do you get out of a hospital without a face?)

One irony: Maggie and Jake both made their last appearances with Heath and will accept the Oscar on his behalf with runny makeup all around.

Otherwise. There. Was. No. Plot.

Posted by CHRISTIAN BALE'S EX-STEPMOTHER | July 25, 2008 6:35 PM
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How fascistic was Eastwood's Dirty Harry?

Not completely. In "Magnum Force", he takes a stand against an SFPD death squad, rogue cops who are going around rubbing out people they think are incorrigible. Inspector Callahan is against it and takes a stand for the rule of law.*


Harry Callahan: "Briggs, I hate the goddamn system, but until someone comes along with changes that make sense, I'll stick with it."

Just like R.M. Nixon, for those of us who lived through that era, we never thought we'd look back and find it quaint, and better than these newfangled times. Toby Keith is all jolly for lynching people lately. Fascism isn't creeping anymore, it's galloping. Hey, remember Ollie North and his plans for marital law? Uh, go read the news, that story apparently is back, and bigger and badder.

(* With liberal rules of engagment, presumably.)

Posted by CP | July 25, 2008 7:26 PM
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Woops, martial law. Although I bed Ollie would like to pass a marital law, too, to save The Family, yadda yadda.

Posted by CP | July 25, 2008 7:30 PM
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Bet! I meant bet! Not bed! Yeesh, I need to stop while I give head. Oh! What a giveaway! Dr. Freud, white phone!

Posted by CP | July 25, 2008 7:32 PM

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