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Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Another Bike Accident on Eastlake and Fuhrman

posted by on July 16 at 17:48 PM

According to a source in the area, another bicyclist was hit at the intersection of Eastlake and Fuhrman this morning—the same intersection where 19-year-old Bryce Lewis was struck by a truck and killed last year. Seattle Fire Department 911 logs show an emergency response at that location at 9:37 this morning.

The source says the cyclist was heading northwest on Furhman Ave. East when a driver heading toward the University Bridge on Eastlake turned right in front of him, striking him with her car. An ambulance came and drove away with the cyclist, who was wearing a neck brace and appeared to be injured.

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Was he riding a fixie?

Posted by w7ngman | July 16, 2008 6:02 PM
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Who cares if he rode fixie? What matters is if he has a pitbull. Or technically, what matters is his position on breed bans.

BTW, my first child, a socialist who will go to the Sorbonne, was born this past Bastille Day.

Posted by elenchos | July 16, 2008 6:29 PM
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i live on this intersection and i ride a bike.

people really need to slow the fuck down. what's the hurry, anyway?

Posted by M.A. | July 16, 2008 6:32 PM
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The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.

Posted by DOUG. | July 16, 2008 6:34 PM
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i think the bike was going up eastlake and so was the car - the car turned just like the dump truck but in this case the bike hit the side of the car instead of going under and being crushed by the wheel

Posted by bad intersection | July 16, 2008 7:08 PM
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Living by this intersection, I saw a cyclist (an older woman riding a very nice road bike on a work day in the late afternoon) get hit and carted away in an ambulance with obvious injuries. All I have to say is that nothing's changed since this accident, much less Bryce's. Drivers will keep being the fucking maniacs they are on that road until the city comes up with a solution to keep people from being hit.

Posted by KCip | July 16, 2008 9:56 PM
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@5:

That makes a little more sense than what Erica describes, unless either the car or the bike were in the wrong lane at the point of impact. The bike lane on Eastlake connecting with the U. bridge seems to be a perenneal blindspot for cars crossing the bridge going northbound.

Posted by COMTE | July 16, 2008 10:30 PM
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Jesus Maria. When can we stop pretending that having cars and bikes in the same lanes is anything other than a stupid idea?

Bikes are awesome, but riding your bike in a lane with cars is not smart. I know you really, really want bikes to rule the world, but in bike vs. car, car will always win.

That is why in civilized countries, bike lanes are separate paved trails, separated from the car road by a physical barrier, and bikes have separate signals just like pedestrians.

Quit blaming drivers for the fact that cars are big and hard and bikes are soft and small, and start agitating for an actual bike lane system.

Posted by Thisbe | July 16, 2008 10:46 PM
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Gads. I was at this intersection at about 7 pm last night and saw a biker come *this close* to getting creamed. The young woman in front of me turned left directly in front of the biker, and if his reflexes hadn't been quick, he'd be in the hospital or worse. WATCH FOR BIKERS, PEOPLE.

Posted by Cassandra | July 16, 2008 11:28 PM
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Thisbe, quit being such a fucking pussy. People need to drive less, fuck more and ride bikes all the time.

This is the answer to all of our problems.

Posted by I'm a Nuclear Bomb | July 17, 2008 12:09 AM
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I ride this route a handful of times of month. Coming off the burke while heading downtown, it's really the best way to go. I'd like to see them do on Eastlake what they did on Stone Way. There needs to be separate lanes.

Posted by superyeadon | July 17, 2008 12:25 AM
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Well, I give kudos to Mayor Nickels and his forward thinking Bike Plan for Seattle!!! Wow, it looks so damn good on paper, I feel better everday I bike down Eastlake around Lake Union (sharing lanes not only with cars but that fucking stupid street car). I am so happy we have a plan on paper. I would NEVER want Seattle to fucking implement any sort of transportation plan like the Bike Plan or the Monorail or anything. Just keep it on paper.


Who is running against Nickels next year anyway?

Posted by Andrew | July 17, 2008 6:57 AM
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Until Thisbe's utopia: ride in the center of the lane! Far fewer bikes are killed intentionally by angry drivers than accidentally by stupid evil drivers.

Posted by daniel | July 17, 2008 7:34 AM
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i thought bryce hit the truck, not the other way around?

Posted by happy renter | July 17, 2008 8:19 AM
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Use that intersection as a test intersection to paint the bike lane a color (like they do on some pdx bike lanes) from the flower lady area to just across the north side of the intersection.

Put up a sign back at the harvard/eastlake intersection (on eastlake) that mentions something about the upcoming intersection.

Posted by stinkbug | July 17, 2008 8:26 AM
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The description of this accident doesn't make sense.

Thisbe is right. You can't have a 3 foot wide fictional bike lane that overlaps with a car lane on one of the most heavily travelled routes in Seattle and not expect accidents.

We need separation.

In addition to giving bikes one whole lane, we could also route them north and south on side streets. For example, here, they could go northbound on streets to the east of Eastlake and then come to the bridge from the east.

A few blocks longer but isn't it worth it to not die?

You can also have a lighting system that when it turns green at the bridge, it only allows bikes to go first for a few seconds, clearing them out. Like when they go first getting offa ferry.

Finally, you simply can't have vehicles turning right across a bike lane where people are not turning. We would never allow that for motor vehicles. It seems like designed risk. They should sue the city when they sue the drivers and make them both pay. And beef up the penalties for these drivers, there really are very few "accidents" when you have repeat collisions at the same intersection. Drivers should know the intersection is so poorly designed they have to be 100X more careful.

Posted by PC | July 17, 2008 8:39 AM
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To Thisbe's argument, the problem here is that there is a bike lane, which is poorly designed, and that cars don't realize they must merge lanes before making the turn. On a two lane (in each direction) road you wouldn't make a right turn from the center lane, would you? That's what all of these vehicles are doing.

If the bikes and the cars were just in the same lane the car would be forced to see the cyclist since they're right in front of them instead of in a "blind spot" to their right.

Also, in civilized countries everyone has a bike, including drivers, so the drivers watch for bikers knowing it could just as easily be them. What, you don't think grade seperated bike paths ever cross a road with cars on it?

Posted by Anon | July 17, 2008 9:06 AM
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Your description of the accident doesn't make any sense. If the cyclist was riding on Fuhrman towards the bridge, and the motorist was traveling north on Eastlake, the motorist would have passed in front of the cyclist at the intersection, not turned in front of him. Or was the motorist also traveling on Fuhrman?

Posted by Toe Tag | July 17, 2008 9:27 AM
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@8: "That is why in civilized countries, bike lanes are separate paved trails, separated from the car road by a physical barrier"

Is Denmark civilized? Because here's a video of what they have:

http://www.copenhagencyclechic.com/2007/12/cyclopornography-film-copenhagen-bike.html

Posted by stinkbug | July 17, 2008 9:37 AM
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You're all acting as if one less biker is a bad thing

Posted by Bud Dickman | July 17, 2008 11:18 AM
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The people advocating lane separation don't know what they're talking about. Lane separation is a primary cause of these incidents. At an intersection, safe cyclists always take the lane. It is impossible to be hit by a right-turning car at an intersection if you're in line behind the cars like you should be.

European-style bike lanes are often designed to avoid these kind of problems, but Seattle doesn't have a single inch of those kind of lanes. If we're not willing to go full Amsterdam on separated facilities, cyclists just need to learn to take the fucking lane.

Posted by Cascadian | July 17, 2008 11:58 AM

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